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Tuesday’s Rugby News sees Hore defends the Sunwolves, RWC Broadcasting rights, Wallabies in camp and Phipps set for a return.


 

HORE DEFENDS SUNWOLVES

Andrew Duratalo clears a scrum to Tusi Pisi

Andrew Duratalo clears a scrum to Tusi Pisi

NSW Rugby boss Andrew Hore has called on SANZAAR to retain the Sunwolves in the Super Rugby competition, a topic that is likely to come up during the World Rugby meetings in Dublin this week.

Hore believes that there is not only a massive financial risk dropping the Japanese franchise, but a risk at hurting the global game. 

All of the Australian franchises have a sponsorship deal with Japan, with the Melbourne Rebels signing a partnership deal when the Sunwolves came to Australia to train. The Waratahs and Brumbies also played two showcase matches in Japan over the past two seasons.

“It’s not so much repercussions but opportunity, we want to maximise opportunity,” he said.

“We’re a global game, not kicking around in a tiddly wink competition like the NRL that’s only played in this part of the world, we’re a global sport.

“And so, ultimately that means there’s opportunity for global revenue and that now that we’re one Waratahs and NSW means that we can feed the game using that commercial revenue.

“That’s our biggest opportunity with Japan. Any new territories hold opportunities.”

Hore agrees that you need to give franchises time to grow to see their potential, praising the efforts of Jamie Joseph and the Sunwolves for getting they first win out of Asia.

“I think Jamie’s (Japan director of rugby Jamie Joseph) done a great job this year with the Sunwolves, they’re going toe to toe home and away aren’t they? And so, like Super W, you’ve just got to sometimes give things time.”

“We’re excited by the Japanese and we enjoy going up there but there’s a lot of things they need to consider.”

It is understood that South Africa Rugby are the biggest opposition to keeping the Sunwolves, with the travel load on their players being the main concern, but Here believes balance is needed to build a closer competition.

“You can’t comment not being in the room, you can only hope that a decision, might even have to be a compromise, is reached so that we can do what we need to do.

“It doesn’t mean, you might do everything from blowing it up to adhering to what they want to a middle ground, isn’t it?  That’s their job in the room to sort it out.”

Hore admitted that there had to be a balance between commercial revenue and the quality of competition but pointed to the Sunwolves’ apparent improvement in 2019 as a reason for patience.

“We’ve always said our issues are more around the governance model which allows the competition to thrive no matter where you have a team,” he said.

“Sixty-two per cent of respondents that were surveyed said they wanted close fixtures.

“You could play it on the moon and if it’s a good fixture people want to watch it. So, it’s how do we create a competition like when we had Super 12 that has that balance.”

Hore has once again thrown his support behind a commission style model that would give each Super Rugby team a seat at the table.

“There’s discussions always ongoing in and around the various aspects of Super Rugby from laws to governance and so I think we’ve just got to keep talking and I think there’s opportunities coming with these milestones around broadcasting that opens the door for more discussion,” he said.

Rugby Australia CEO Raelene Castle reinforced Australia’s support for Japanese Rugby.

“We see enormous value in the Japanese market,” she said.

RUGBY WORLD CUP BROADCASTING RIGHTS

Stock photo of Foxsports commentary desk

Stock photo of Foxsports commentary desk

Fox Sports and Channel 10 have secured the rights to broadcast the Rugby World Cup later this year.

Fox Sports will show all 48 matches, with Channel 10 and 10 Play broadcasting 10 matches, including all the Wallabies games, and the finals.

Fox Sports will stream all the matches in 4K resolution (hopefully TMOs can see clearly now the grain has gone) on  a dedicated Rugby World Cup channel. 

This is also good news for fans who can’t afford to pay more money to the Murdock Empire, as they can watch the matches on free to air.

Kayo Sports and Fox Sports On Demand also have streaming rights to the World Cup.

Being that the tournament is being held in Japan, these matches will be played at more Australia friendly time periods, as opposed to the 1 am starts of the last World Cup.

“The Rugby World Cup 2019 is the biggest sports event this year and the only place to see all 48 games LIVE and ad-break free during play is on FOX SPORTS,” Head of FOX SPORTS Peter Campbell said in a statement.

“And we will create history with every Rugby World Cup 2019 game available to Foxtel sports subscribers and exclusively LIVE in 4K Ultra HD – this will provide a stunning viewing experience like never before for sports fans.

“The modern Australian sports fan has a rich tapestry of background and heritage. Whether supporting the Wallabies or the All Blacks, England, Italy, South Africa, the USA, Fiji, or Tonga and beyond, our coverage will be for all fans no matter who you support. A global event like the Rugby World Cup 2019 is for all, irrespective of our backgrounds or sports’ code allegiance.

“The rights we have acquired will also allow all matches in the tournament to be streamed on the new sports only service Kayo Sports, as well as Foxtel Now. Eligible Foxtel customers can also stream the Rugby World Cup 2019, where and when they want, with Foxtel’s mobile app, Foxtel GO, which is available at no additional charge with a Foxtel subscription.”

World Rugby Chairman, Bill Beaumont, added: “We are delighted to be welcoming FOX SPORTS as rights holding broadcasters for Rugby World Cup 2019. They are long-standing supporters of rugby in Australia, broadcast innovators and with all of the big matches being shown in prime-time slots, will be a destination for Australian sports fans in September, October and November.”

Channel 10 chief executive Paul Anderson said: “The 2019 Rugby World Cup is one of the biggest international sporting events of the year and the crown jewel in the rugby calendar. As the long-time home of Australian rugby, we’re super excited that we can continue to bring coverage of this great game to Australians live and free, wherever and however they choose to watch it.”

WALLABY CAMP WONT DISRUPT PREP: HOLLOWAY 

Waratahs v Hurricanes 2019 1st half-6

Waratah Jed Holloway doesn’t believes that the Wallaby camp currently happening in Sydney will affect his teams preparation a head of the Waratahs derby against the Brumbies.

The camp will run until Tuesday means that the franchises will be without their start players for at least one, potentially two training sessions this week. 

For Holloway though, it will be business as usual except for a few tweaks.

“It’ll be a challenge but the coaches are setting us up, I think our week’s changed. We’ll train today and back in on Wednesday and Thursday with the whole group.

“We’ll get a couple of full sessions to be able to get through our reps but we’re at a point in our season where no, we’re not going to change too much in our game.

“You probably saw on the weekend that we don’t really need to in terms of if we focus on ourselves, we’ll just keep on building on that and hopefully get the result.”

“Feels like preseason again actually with all the Wallabies boys missing but it’ll give guys a good chance to get a lot of reps in training today,” he said.

“Everyone’s playing this weekend with the NSW academy playing before vs Brumby Runners so it’ll be a good opportunity for those boys.”

The camp will affect the Rebels the most, with the Melbourne team heading off to South Africa, and their Wallabies not expected to join them until Wednesday morning Australia time.

This will put strain on coach Dave Wessels from a selection perspective, especially with Matt Phillips under the injury cloud for an infected foot. Phillip initially played through Rebels victory against the Brumbies but had to come off at half time. He is the only player not in Wallaby camp to head to Africa as of yet.

The Reds also have a big week, with their Wallabies linking up with the wider Queensland squad in Tokyo ahead of their clash with the Sunwolves.

Super coaches can sleep easy with their players in this camp though, after the injuries that came out of the January fitness camp, this camp will not feature any actual training.

Instead the Wallabies players will be screened an monitored, as well as continue their recoveries post a big derby weekend.

The 40 man squad had some interesting inclusions and some notable omissions. Though it doesn’t sound like anything is set in stone yet.

 

PHIPPS READY FOR RETURN

Nick Phipps running away with it.

Nick Phipps is ready for a return to rugby, eyeing off the opportunity to play against the Brumbies this weekend.

Phipps has missed the first 4 rounds of Super Rugby after he suffered a soft tissue injury to his calf during the Wallabies preseason camp.

Waratah’s defensive coach Steve Tandy gave an update suggesting the half back could be in the frame to return for Friday’s clash against the Brumbies.

“He trained last week, so I think his training’s going to go up again this week so then we’ll review and probably make that decision later in the week,” he said.

“His energy around the group (is important).

“(We saw) him coming into a little bit of training last week, the energy, the intent around what it is, his chat, he’s a great leader, his speed.

“He is an awesome Waratah and it’s going to be awesome to have him back around training fully.”

Phipps might make it into the 23, having to beat out Mitch Short, but will have a hard time taking in for Jake Gordon’s starting spot.

With both half backs having a different style of game, Tandy believes that the competition for that 9 spot will benefit the Waratahs.

“The better teams, you’ve got to have competition and it’s something and having a little bit of difference in those scrumhalves really help around conditions, opposition and obviously at the weekend moved the back three around in around the Reds,” he said.

“I think you’ve got to have that ability to move things around and change according to different games and these games are physical so obviously you’ve got to give people a break every now and again as well, so it’s awesome to have two nines and Shorty’s (Mitch Short) been pushing hard as well so it’s good to have that competition within the group.”

The Waratahs will be without flanker Will Miller after he picked up an ankle injury against the Reds, but will welcome back Michael Wells who finished up on his duties with the Australian Sevens team.

 

  • Huw Tindall

    Building on Jed’s comments the Tahs are going to have to rest some Wallabies soon. So far, outside of injuries and byes, all their main Wallabies have played 80 mins each game. So Kepu, Hooper, Foley, Folau as probably the most valuable then you’ve got Simmons, Ned, and Beale. Dempsey probably not a rest candidate as he didn’t play a lot last year. That’s a lot of firepower to rest and with the Sunwolves not being a gimme game this year they could struggle in some games.

    Hore probably doesn’t want to lose the Sunwolves as it’s been 8-10 competition points guaranteed in seasons past!

    • RugbyM

      So the question is who do you now choose to rest the players against?! The Moondoggies are no-longer easy beats (the Reds are probably sweating very nervously). Blues maybe?! Pity we don’t play the Chiefs this year, who are yet to realise the competition has started

      • Huw Tindall

        That’s the crux of it! Do you just double down and get spanked by the Crusaders by playing your B team?

        • RugbyM

          Might seem the best option – i don’t think many A teams look like beating them, so call a spade a spade, rest the blokes and get hammered anyways

        • Greg

          Maybe the B 10 will become a permanent fixture!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Tactically that is what I would do. It is already a slated loss that you definitely wont get a bonus point from. SO suck up a huge loss with your B team and rest the players!

      • Dylan Langes

        I actually see that as a good thing for the comp though. You don’t want too many easy beats otherwise it diminishes the value of the comp

    • Who?

      It’s also true for the Rebels. Genia’s played almost every minute so far.

      • Dylan Langes

        And I thank everyone of those minutes because he has helped us to a narrow victory every time

        • Who?

          Very true. Just a question of when RA yank him out of the team…

        • Brendan Hume

          Are these RWC lay-offs enforced. Genia plays HB which isn’t as physical a role as a forward or centre. I think he looks fresh and wouldn’t be resting unless he was a bit flat or requested a rest. He had some time off last year with injury and seems to be riding high with the teams success.

        • Who?

          I’d imagine it’ll be RA-required, but I don’t know how it’ll be enforced. Genia might not be cleaning out, but he defends enough, he ran a bit on the weekend, he cops hits after he passes, and he covers more miles than anyone else on the field. So he’ll definitely need a break. There’s a reason why most teams pull their halfback between 50 and 70 minutes…

        • Dylan Langes

          Thats been the debate for ages, what is the ruling on resting players, and who needs to be rested?

    • AllyOz

      I think they probably have a little bit more depth than some other teams, at least in the backline, not so much in the front row. Hunt gives them cover on most positions from 10-15, KB and Folau can be moved to cover gaps elsewhere. Not ideal to play players out of their best positions but probably in a better position than most Aussie teams

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s. Just went to breakfast with KRL, and had had a great discussion over eggs and coffee. BL points whilst fighting off a food coma:
    – I think the Moon Doggies has been the stand out team as far as performance improvement have been. They were once the easy beats, and I think that that is no longer the case.
    – thank god that Channel 10 has picked up the Free to air. The last thing I want to do is have to listen to Drew Mitchel, Kearnsy and that fuckwit Kafe commentate the games. Drives me insane. I hate watching the games with the taste of vomit in my mouth.
    – Lets hope that there are no injuries out of Wallabies camp. It will be interesting to see how the squad starts to whittle down. But I am sure there will be a number of players in it not on merit. Because people like Beale, AAC, TPN, and Phips will not be there on form or merit.
    – Listened to Morgan Tuirinui’s podcast on Rugby Ruckus. Holy crap is it good and technical. If you havnt given it a listen I recommend it highly.
    Have to go get more coffee to fight of post gym and post pigout breakfast food coma! Over to you GAGR’s!

    • Happyman

      Your welcome mate I have already consumed this weeks episode.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Man I had to take notes.

    • Keith Butler

      There’s always the mute button. I used it all weekend for the super rugby and 6Ns and it was far more enjoyable.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yes but I need some noise to drown out the sound of my kids jibbering shit. I am not sure who is worse!

        • Keith Butler

          Understand fully. Fortunately our one flew the nest some time ago.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Lucky you! I was stupid and left it to 40 to have them! Arghhhhhhh

        • Greg

          “I am not sure who is worse!”

          If I was to express an opinion…. I would probably support your kids as providing the most valuable commentary!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Greg you are probably right. Kafe and Kearns just do my head in.

      • Who?

        Only problem with that is you can’t hear the ref or players. If there was a sports ears type feed, with just the onfield mics, that’d be awesome.

        • Keith Butler

          Fair point but would you want to hear a SH, say Nick Phipps or Aaron Smith, yapping for penalties/cards and generally whinging for 80 mins.

        • Who?

          I would! So much better than hearing many commentators. At least you know they’re MEANT to be biased! :-P

        • A Dingo Stole My Rugby

          Yeah, Fox used to offer that option via the red button. I’m told that people in droves switched off the commentators, so – quelle surprise – Fox disabled the option.

    • Dylan Langes

      Someone I have begun to enjoy commentating more is Stephen Hoiles, been really impressed how he’s upped his game this year, but yeah the rest of the bunch are nuffies. That being said all Super Rugby commentary is trash. The Saffers and the Kiwis are incredibly bias, and its hilarious listening to them struggle with who to be bias towards during a derby match.
      I heard good things about the Tuirinui podcast must check it out.
      Funny how you only mentioned Tahs players walking into Wallabies camp. Almost like there is some favouritism haha.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Pure gold DL.

    • Who?

      It’s ok, BLL, Cheik’s promised this camp is more about talking, they won’t be doing any physical work. Thank goodness!!!

      • Brisneyland Local

        Talking about the PLAN!

    • AllyOz

      Drew Mitchel, Kearnsy and that fuckwit Kafe…so you are OK with Marto then?

      • Who?

        To be fair to BLL, I’m guessing he doesn’t consider Marto to be a commentator. I know I don’t!
        Clark’s alright, Kafe can just sound a bit smug (Super Rugby Wrap this week, they showed Gits saying Angry Genia reminded him of Angry Gregan, to which Kafe had to talk up how much tougher his old team mate was, by referencing how hard Gregan’s eyes would burn into his (Kafe’s) head).
        You get the odd former player who’s a great commentator (#Romostradamus), but so many are quite poor. There’s a reason why many sports around the world have specialist commentators.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Gregan’s eyes would burn into Kafe’s head because Kafe was an impcompetent fuckwit!

        • Parker

          And his head was made of wood soaked in metho.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Pure Gold!

      • Brisneyland Local

        He is just lower down the pecking order than the others. But he is shite too!

  • Kevino

    Wallabies camp might not effect the Tahs, but it’s bloody awful for the Rebels who are in SA this week at altitude. Not getting to the Republic till Thursday will not help our chances against the Lions.

    Could it not have been last weekend? You know when all teams were Australia based.

    Another stupid move by Cheika and the ARU who could not organise a piss up in a brewery.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Very true. But maybe that was done to enhance the Tahs chances.

      • Jason

        You say that facetiously (I think) but I’d imagine Cheika ‘didn’t know’ or ‘didn’t realise’ the schedules of the other teams. I’d not attribute to malice but incompetence absolutely!

        I mean isn’t this Cheika’s full time job, what’s he been doing since our last test?

        • Braveheart81

          Do you really think Cheika does all the scheduling? I’m sure he organised the sponsor event yesterday too!

        • Dud Roodt

          But if we can’t all jerk off to how much we hate Cheika, WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING HERE!!!!!!

        • Who?

          I honestly think Cheika would’ve had some input into that scheduling, because, with the Reds and Rebels having had byes in the first few weeks, any sooner than now would’ve been too soon to have any real impression of form and fitness. How do you pick a wider squad – rewarding aforementioned form and fitness – without giving everyone a few games to demonstrate form and fitness?

          So you wouldn’t want to have a camp before Week 4. However, the issue is that the Rebels fly away. If the Rebels had flown away last week, were back this week, and no one else was heading west, I’m sure it would’ve been scheduled then. I haven’t looked ahead into the schedule, but the odds are that by the time the Rebels are back, the other teams are starting to fly significant miles.

          It’s absolutely a frustrating time – primarily for the Rebels (but even for the Tahs and Brums, who should be spending the week rebuilding the hate towards their Wallabies opponents for this weekend) – but the problem is the Super draw.

          Oh, and because conspiracy theories are fun, it’s also now because this is his last week without Scott Johnson looking over his shoulder. :-P

        • Braveheart81

          Cheika would absolutely have input that he wants X number of camps during the Super Rugby season (and he probably asks for more than he gets) and then the logistics are left to others. Suggesting that Cheika has intentionally screwed over the Rebels because he had to have a camp this weekend is absolute lunacy.

        • Who?

          Of course, but that doesn’t mean it’s not fun to be a lunatic.
          You’ve got to recognise that we’re at a point where the vast, vast majority of Australian Rugby fans believe the Cheika era has jumped the shark, and as such any and all points will end up with some form of poor taste joke, don’t you? Just as happened under Deans, as I’m sure also happened under Eddie Jones…

        • Jason

          I didn’t say it was intentional far more likely incompetence than malice.

        • Brumby Runner

          BH, I don’t get the message that posters are saying Cheika has deliberately screwed the Rebels (nor the Brumbies, Reds or Tahs – the Wallabies are another case though). The complaint I hear is that whoever scheduled the camp (and I believe it would have been mostly at Cheika’s feet – has to be at a time convenient to him) was very inconsiderate of the Rebels’ SR schedule.

          My real concern is about just what good will come of this camp anyway? A team building exercise? Rubbish imo. All the likely participants know each other extremely well by now and all would have bonded many times over recent years. And if bonding means having drinks together while on a harbour cruise, then it is more likely to have a detrimental effect on the players and their SR obligations. Just another cock-up as far as I can see.

        • nmpcart

          Why the need for a Wallaby camp? Shouldn’t the players just have to perform with their teams and the coach can touch base with them as needed to talk about what he wants. Getting a bunch of guys together for team bonding or fitness testing? Ask their SR teams for their fitness test results, better yet, watch how they play and look for skills and decision making, not how much they are lifting or how quick they are in beep tests.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Wonder if anyone’s ever thought of a video type training sessions for the wallaby camps that aren’t essential like this one?

        • Jason

          but even for the Tahs and Brums, who should be spending the week rebuilding the hate towards their Wallabies opponents for this weekend

          Well actually the Reds are in Tokyo this week if I’m not mistaken?

          I agree it’s a shitter of a draw! This year is actually one of the worst I’ve seen, who’s idea was it to have the Brumbies and Rebels play each other twice in the first 4 rounds! Poor old Reds had the tough task of the Highlanders, then the Crusaders followed up by the ‘Tahs off a bye. (I’m sure the other teams have had equally shitty draws the Reds are just the one I noticed.)

        • Jason

          From everything I’ve heard about Cheika he would have, but if he hadn’t he would have had ultimate approval, and he’s the one who is ultimately responsible. Given this if he scheduled it or not it’s on him to be more considerate of the Super Rugby sides particularly when he’s one of the big driving forces behind the Super sides devolving more power to the Wallabies. He can’t expect the Brumbies and Reds and Rebels to bend over backwards to accommodate his wishes when he’s not even going to think about being supportive of the Super sides.

        • Parker

          Why, was it a shambles as well?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yes was meant with humour!
          I have no idea what the ass clown does. But I suggest very little.

        • Brumby Runner

          The same as he’s been doing since 2015. Making our national rugby team as mediocre as it is possible to be.

      • Dylan Langes

        Conspiracy theories… I love it.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Just because I am paranoid doesnt mean someone isnt out to get me!

        • Dylan Langes

          Anyone ever tell you you’re a little paranoid?

          Not to my face why did you hear something?

        • Brisneyland Local

          I heard something!

        • Who?

          The hardest cases to diagnose accurately – people who are paranoid who also have a reason to be paranoid!

        • Brisneyland Local

          True!

        • Parker

          The best way to understand a paranoid person is follow them around to observe them.

    • Dylan Langes

      Im with you Kevino it is a pretty poor time to pick one. Especially when there is no training involved but the travel delay hurts one of their teams. The Rebels players will arrive Tuesday night in Jo’burg but still miss valuable training time.

      • Kevino

        So one training session and a captains run. Great preparation for the toughest away fixture of the season.

        • Dylan Langes

          Yeah its not great but it does offer some other guys the chance to step up and get a run. I think Campbell Magnay is over there, and some of the younger props. I do hope we get our best XV though. The Lions haven’t had the best start to the year. And really didn’t finish strong despite the win over the Jags

        • Metootootoo

          So who is on the tour – nothing available elsewhere. Do share

        • Dylan Langes

          I just saw a few players on instagram. Pone Famualiisi (Apologies for the spelling), Campbell Magnay, Billy Meakes, Gus Cottrell and Michael Ruru have posted there. Genia, Cooper, Jones, DHP, Coleman, Hardwick, Ainsley, Hodge, Koroibete and Uelese were spotted in Sydney at the Wallabies camp.
          I wish we got lists of who is where.

        • Kevino

          Maddox would be at camp

          Philip is in hospital with a foot infection.

          Coleman would be missing this week with concussion so expect Jefferies or RHP to be starting with Jones in the second row.

        • Dylan Langes

          Completely forgot about Mad Dog Maddocks thats my fault. Yeah Phillip is unlikely, Coleman is on his way they will confirm later if he is all clear form his HIA. Be eager to see what Jefferies bring if he can make the most of his shot.

        • Who?

          I thought there was a list of the players involved in the Wallabies camp? Because it was mentioned when Cooper was in that Hunt wasn’t in. So someone’s got a list… Hang on, the list’s linked in the bottom of the news article! :-D Where it also mentions that Philip hasn’t travelled (yet).

        • Singapore Sling

          Sorry to post this response to the rugbypass article on Cooper https://www.rugbypass.com/news/time-is-ticking-for-quade-cooper to today’s thread but I can’t open disqus on yesterday’s.

          Curiosity go the better of me regarding Coopers winning stats when starting so I took a look at the other great (and not so great) flyhalfs.

          Ella 51%
          Lynagh 71%
          Larkham 67%
          Flatley 65%
          Barnes 69%
          Giteau 57%
          Cooper 66%
          Foley49%

          Lynagh what a beauty.

        • AllyOz

          Barnes is still playing isn’t he…probably only one major concussion from long term brain injury but…

        • Singapore Sling

          Yeah trots around for Dingoes team in Japan or at least I think he was.

        • Habitual Offender

          Panasonic Wild Knights. Played against Force in Perth last year, did an ankle from memory

        • Who?

          Indeed.
          I’m guessing those stats are for all starts? Or is it only starts (i.e. not including games on the bench) at 10? Because Lynagh would have a few wins playing 12 alongside Ella, Flatley would have some wins playing outside Larkham at 12, Giteau would have a number playing alongside Bernie, Flats, Barnes (2007 RWC), and Cooper at 12, Barnes would have a few at 12 playing alongside both Giteau and Cooper (given he didn’t get enough time at 10 for the Wallabies – should’ve been there over Giteau, with Giteau still at 12, and given he didn’t play many (any?) games without one or both of Giteau and Cooper in the backline)… Even Cooper’s got starts at 12, I think.

        • Singapore Sling

          Yes for all starts from ESPN scrum player database. I wanted to isolate the starts at 10 but that was just too much to trawl through.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Two starts at 12 that I can recall.

        • Ed

          That is five fewer starts at 12 than that natural inside centre – Spanners!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Spanners isnt a natrual anything.

        • Human

          They left an “s” out. The quote was, “Michael is a big supporter of Coopers”. A Pale Ale if you please.

        • Dylan Langes

          There isn’t a list that I can find I have juts gone off the odd article such as the fox ports one saying Hun miss out but Slipper and Cooper were in, I also read that Meakes missed out but Toni Pulu made it in. Locky McCaffery and Anaru Rangi were considered to be snubs.
          In the RUGBY.com.au article it makes a minor comment about Phillip not traveling yet.

        • Dylan Langes
  • Nutta

    Fantastic to see NSWRU and RA recognise the value in Japan and are actively moving to leverage it as opposed to the typical Saffa ‘it’s all about me’ mentality. I mean we aren’t a twiddly-wink competition are we? I mean we do want to maximise all opportunities available especially when there is no repercussions.

    I wonder when NSWRU and RA will do the same with the +2m people with over 750 high-schools and primary-schools in western Sydney?

    I mean, it’s ONLY ON THEIR FKN DOORSTEP.

    Ah, that’s right, there is that development guy in Parramatta isn’t there? Yes, that’s in the west right? He can cover Parra to Richmond to Campbelltown surely. All good.

    See you guys at the Oaks tonight for a G&T? I’ll be down after I drop Saffy off at her Cello practice.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Yes to pick on the Japanese would be racist. To pick on those poor Western Sydney people is only being classist! and that isnt so bad is it? ;-)

      • Nutta

        Dude, this is Australia. We couldn’t possibly be racist.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Pure gold Nutta!

      • Jason

        What about the Western Australians?!

        • Brisneyland Local

          That was an internal own goal!

        • Nutta

          You want me to be racist to the West Australians?

        • Nutta

          Your wish is my command…

          https://youtu.be/DBrlqisHdYQ

        • Singapore Sling

          Perfect timing I watched a chopper doco last night. Gold!

    • Jason
    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Nah mate, Hore just wants the Sunwolves to stay in so there’s a team he’s likely win against more often than not.

      • Nutta

        I hear there is good skiing in Nippon as well – always great for a family trip!

    • Hoss

      Afternoon Nutta and fellow time wasters.

      Late as usual, been sipping Courvoisier and nibbling on prawns over here at Mosman with Corn Chip, The Pirate and Honest Phil and need to take you to task Nutta.

      We already did away with the West once and its been golden times for RA since, why would we entertain another dalliance. Surely they can find a billionaire or two out near Campbelltown and sought it themselves ? Why does RA have to do all the heavy lifting to promote the national game – after all one must fend for oneself you know.

      Cheery pip, now back to my colleagues and pick up our discussion on how can we get 24 Waratah’s into the Wallaby match day 23….garcon, another tipple if you don’t mind.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Gold mate

      • Who?

        The Hunter’s just another part of the Northern Suburbs and Beaches, isn’t it? :-P

        • Hoss

          Most Sydney-siders couldn’t find their arse cheeks with two hands let alone Gods-Country up here mate.

        • Who?

          I know, but I just had to say it! :-D

        • Happyman

          I believe it is referred to as the insular peninsula

        • Nutta

          One hand.

  • andrewM

    Talk about ‘What’s in a name?’ hey Andrew? NSW rugby freely admitted that they welcomed the canning of the Force so they could pick over their bones, although they only came away with three players (Newsome, Rona and Vui) from memory, now with the possibility of the Sunwolves being chopped and the potential economic loss that this will entail, they are again shamelessly promoting their own agenda, but nothing on what is good for the game in this country.

    “Hore admitted that there had to be a balance between commercial revenue and the quality of competition but pointed to the Sunwolves’ apparent improvement in 2019 as a reason for patience.”

    I can’t recall anything to this effect coming from NSW in support of the Force 2017. Maybe it was that final 40-11 humiliation of the Waratahs that really sealed the Force’s fate.

  • Andrew Luscombe

    Australia has 4 pool games, there are 4 quarter finals, 2 semi finals, a 3-4 playoff, and the final. That’s 8 finals, and 4 pool games, so 12 matches free to air? or is it 10?

    • Who?

      I’d not expect to see all the QF’s. It’ll probably be the Wallabies’ QF, and maybe the AB’s QF. The other QF’s probably wouldn’t rate enough to justify the cost.

      • Nutta

        Agree. We will see the Final regardless and the semi’s regardless. That’s 7 games (4 pools + Big3). The unknown factor is how many quarters but that is depending on when ours falls in the mix of quarters.

    • Braveheart81

      Are we sure it isn’t 10 pool games plus the finals?

    • Dylan Langes

      I read it as all Australia pool games and probably NZ, Ireland or England matches plus finals

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Dylan, I think the whole future of Super rugby, world league and RWC are going to be interesting discussions over the next year or so. I can see the value of retaining the Sunwolves and I think for the future of the game they should stay. I also agree that there are problems with the different level of teams in Super rugby and maybe an expansion program with 2 divisions and an annual promotion relegation series is something worth looking at. This would then allow a proper round robin competition and provide an incentive for teams to improve.

    • Dylan Langes

      I really don’t think that Australia would have the depth to truly expand. I think unfortunately when it comes to some situations like this you sometimes need to go with the best business decision and sometimes you need to go with the right decision. Geoff Parkes wrote an article on the Roar talking about the future. Was an interesting perspective.

      • andrewM

        But isn’t this the million dollar catch 22? We’ve seen with both AFL and Rugby that it takes at least 10 years to build the player depth to support a team. With changing participation rates this may now be longer, but do we sit by and do nothing?

        • Dylan Langes

          If I had the answer Andrew Id be on the big bucks. I don’t think the answer is do nothing but I think we need to be smart. Giving SA what ever they want doesn’t benefit us and throwing away a lucrative broadcast deal for another country doesn’t benefit us either.
          As I said I don’t have the answers because I don’t have the options. I think this will take longer than a week to sort out in Dublin though.

        • Who?

          The answer is that we shouldn’t have ticked off Twiggy, we shouldn’t have demoted the Force. We’ve spent years building player depth, and we have player depth. We’re even exporting them to NZ (6A’s, Jack Deb, etc). We just haven’t developed any coaches. We’ve got four Super teams, one is coached by an Aussie. The other three sides have a Saffa and two Kiwis.
          If RA had any clue what was needed, they’d have spoken with Twiggy, kept the Force, and looked to develop coaches rather than blame a shortage of players which is clearly an excuse, given the Force were in the comp over a decade, and the Rebels have been around most of a decade, too. We’re losing players to League because they can’t get a professional gig playing Rugby!

        • Ed

          Dave Wessels became an Australian citizen in August 2018. But agree with your point that we are not developing coaches.

  • GeorgiaSatellite

    Thanks Dylan. I couldn’t find other mention of it, but I wanted to tell you I enjoyed your ‘see clearly now the grain is gone’ joke. As well as the rest, but that in particular.

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