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Tuesday’s Rugby News has Nic No Wuckers White Washing Away Wallabies Woes, Agustin Creevy out, Karmichael Hunt playing for Gordon and more Folau follow on.


White Washes Wallabies Worries

nic white scores wallabies all blacks 2015

The best Australian scrumhalf named Nick has told Fox Sports that a week is a long enough time to fix something that’s been breaking for the past three years.

“It may have been a little bit clunky but we feel that we’re putting a few things in place and that we’re not far away,” White said of a game that involved two bombed tries, and a dumb imposter of 2018’s Tongan Thor.

“We are trying to do things a bit differently so there’s going to be a few teething problems but I felt like in that first half when we were patient we were creating opportunities.

“If a few of those opportunities go to hand that game looks a lot different so it’s not panic stations.

“We need to work on a few things and make sure we take those moments and I think that’s something we can turn around in a week.”

The weekend’s game was White’s first game in four years, after he helped the Wallabies beat the All Blacks. There are rumours Cheika will play Genia at 9 on the weekend, with Joe Powell at 20/21, but White is just happy he’s had a shot.

“It’s good to be back but I want the results now,” the No 9 said.

“We’ve got to be able to take opportunities when they come and if those ones come, I’m happy to take them.”

Talking of ch-ch-changes, Marika Koroibete is pencilled in to return on the wing after missing the Boks game due to a new sprog, Christian Leali’ifano may swap in for Foley (depend on CL’s shoulder injury),  Cheika may continue his habit of rotating the second-row, and with 4 billion injured props it may be another case of a Waratahs props (!!!) in the scrum again.

Creevy Out

Will Genia clears, watched by Agustin Creevy

Argentina hooker and icon Agustin Creevy has been ruled out of the Pumas squad for Saturday night. reports rugby.com.au.

Everybody’s favourite Anglo-Argentine injured his shoulder in his side’s close 20-16 loss against the All Blicks on Sunday morning.

Julian Montoya is expected to come into the #2 shirt, with Newcastle Falcons’ Santiago Cordero to be the 16.

The Underdogs-In-Black were very impressed with the Pumas, with captain Sam Cane singing their praises.

“The Pumas are very accurate, very good one on one defenders and make a nuisance at the breakdown,” Cane said.

“They might not pinch the most ball but they certainly know how to slow it down. Their ability to just get back on their feet and keep coming off the line shows real desire.

“They put us under pressure from the first whistle right up to the last second of the game.”

Pumas captain Pablo Matera was frustrated after the game but is looking forward to the Wallabies.

“[Si claro] we took another step [pero] in the first half we were too structured. Then we took a little more risk and went [muy bien],” Matera said of the ABs game.

“He (Ledesma) has worked hard to improve the level of the team and now against Australia we need more again.”

Hunt Back In Club Rugby

karmichael hunt

Karmichael Hunt played his first game since injuring his knee in May, turning out for Gordon in the Shute Shield over the weekend.

Sporting News reports that Hunt “asked Tahs officials who was at the bottom of the table, earlier this year when he joined the Tahs.” So, he joined Gordon.

“I told him where the club was and where we wanted to take it and he said he loved going to teams at the bottom and having a crack,” coach Darren Coleman said.

“We pay a small match fee but he said to use it on a young bloke. He didn’t want a cent.

“The Tahs cop a lot of flak about where their players go but I’ve got to say they right behind this. We basically got him over a half hour meeting at a café. There is no deal signed or anything. It’s a handshake arrangement.

“I didn’t know the guy until the start of the year but I couldn’t more impressed. He’s been awesome.”

Over the past two weeks, Hunt has been driving up from Bowral for training sessions. He made his debut for the club in their 42-34 win over Norths.

“Tuesday was our best session of the year and I put a lot of that down to Karmichael,” Coleman said.

“Guys insides and outside didn’t want to look like a goose.

“What’s been most impressive is how professional he’s been. He’s a class athlete. His focus to the detail is very good.”

In other news, Parramatta’s Bankwest Stadium, which is 10x better than North Sydney Oval except its distance from Rose Bay, has been confirmed as the venue for the Shute Shield final.

Folau Federal Court

homer nuclear button

The gift that keeps on giving aka the guy who couldn’t help himself but shitpost, Israel Folau, will probably take his unfair dismissal case to the Federal Court.

The news comes as mediation at the Fair Work Commission has fallen down after a series of “yeah?”s were followed by “nah”s.

The FWC gives out a certificate, which basically says that they’ve done all they can and now its up to the judges in the courts to do their thing.

It is expected that RA will continue with their argument that Folau fell foul of their code of conduct, but as employment relations lawyer Josh Bornstein says (via the ABC):

“If you had a contract which said ‘I’m going to pay you four dollars an hour,’ it would be no defence in an underpayment case under the Fair Work Act to say, ‘he agreed to it’.”

Bornstein, who works for Maurice Blackburn lawyers – look away Sky Newsites, that’s a pro-labour law firm!  – is actually really smart and knows his stuff. He’s like employment relations celebrity.

“I think Folau’s got a respectable argument, but it’s not clear-cut,” Mr Bornstein said.

“One of the reasons that it’s not clear-cut is that there’s been very little judicial consideration of this part of the Fair Work Act. Most cases settle. If this goes the full distance, it will be the test case. It will set the precedent.”

Plenty more of this rip-roaring ride to come folks. Remember when rugby was not about Instagram posts, indecision over cutting the Western Force, or the Wallabies being crap? I don’t!!!

  • Patrick

    Frankly I just miss the days when Folau played for us.

    Gear stuff from K Hunt though, just what someone in his position should be doing and really “good for rugby”.

    • Who?

      It’ll be really interesting to see what he does come NRC. He’s always played it, when available, given he’s been a Qld player.

    • Huw Tindall

      Also interesting is if K Hunt comes into consideration for the RWC squad. For mine I’d take him over JOC and Toomua any day of the week. Has shown he is a solid 12 who can distribute and put big hits on plus versatility to play full back if required. If he wasn’t injured I wonder if he’d have been in the squad to start with?

      • Patrick

        I am sure he would. I would like to see him and JOC in the running, but I agree that he would make a great option to have at 12.

      • onlinesideline

        Id take him over Toomua any dayyyyy of the week. The guy is a champion foooty player. He really hasnt had a chance to prep through a full campaign and be in position of 6 or 7 matches. Crying shame. But would still go JOC. We desparately need some step and jet shoes and quick passing. Kerevi’s bombed pass to LSL was his limit on full display. Slow reaction time.

        I also think Sefa should be right in the mix. I would love to see

        09 – Nic White / Willy
        10 – Quade
        11 – JOC
        12 – Samu
        13 – Pateia / TK
        14 – Sefa / Korbete
        15 – Banks / KB

        • Huw Tindall

          Even with QC at 10 I reckon we need a second play maker at 15 so it’s KB running on. If the Rebels season is anything to go by then the Bok’s rush D would have made his life very hard last weekend. I also think we just need specialist wingers. It sucks we have all these 15s running around but they can’t just slot into the wing. There is no room for DHP and Banks and Hodge and KB in the team. One of those guys only unless you put KB on the bench then can have one at 15. 2 specialist wingers please. Even if that means Cam Clark at 14 so be it. Marika has first call on the 11.

        • onlinesideline

          re QC – how many grubbers or overhead chips do Foley manufacture to turn the big bokke boppers around in this rush defence ?

          With White being able to kick as long as Reece, as much as I like the guy, I would sacrifice Reece and obviously DHP. He’s past it.

        • Huw Tindall

          About as many as QC did during the Super season so bugger all. Although Foley kicked through for DHP’s fluffed try.

          Good point re Hodge. Don’t require his boot anymore. DHP has always seemed a poor man’s Ben Smith and he has faded in the last couple of years.

          Really though unless we get the forwards sorted it doesn’t matter who is in the backs. Hopefully 7As and Sio are back from injury so we have them with Slipper then brain snap Tupou or old man Kepu on the bench. Given Rodda went missing on the weekend I’d say move LSL to second row for extra beef and start Valentini or Jones at 6 with the job to go hard at the ruck. Isi can go again at 8 as he puts in.

        • onlinesideline

          Or just flick LSL all together. Im wont lie, I think he’s a good Super player and thats it.H ewould never be near my team. I’d gladly put Jones in at 6 and bye bye LSL. I also flick Rodda. Get Coleman and Rory firing up together.

          I’d have

          Sio
          FF
          AAAAs
          Coleman
          Arnold
          Poey at 7
          Isi at 8 (Lacklan M in the mix
          Jones at 6

          Super sub the energizer bunny and give the Captiancy to Poey for the RWC – if hes fit.

        • John Tynan

          He’s (Long Service Leave) not dynamic enough for a blind side. Nice hard running lock though (when he gets his body height right).

        • Nutta

          I would love to see McCafe in there but the group you named is certainly worth a run.

        • Who?

          QC did put in some chip kicks. Some were poorly executed or chased – like two against the Chiefs…
          Cooper’s issues against Saffa teams this year (well, not so much the Lions – they scored enough against the Lions, the Lions just had a little home ref assistance) were more about his pack getting absolutely dominated and a poor game plan than anything else. He wasn’t running backwards to throw second man passes in front of defenders who’d already advanced far enough past him that the pass should’ve been considered blocked…
          But he’s marked never to be selected again (which most of us realised in 2017, when he was told to go and ‘enjoy his rugby’), so there’s not really much point. We’re doomed to mediocrity in attacking game plan (and execution).

        • John Tynan

          Banks at least has pace and can make a tackle, so I would think he of all you mentioned CAN slot into a wing?

        • onlinesideline

          No way. This is our serious mental disiease. I heard Cheika say Kerevi coudl play 13 as well. He would get absolutely smoked at 13 at test level. Banks is a full back period. We have got to STOP this “he can play there as well “rubbish. We will never have teh same side play the same positions for more than 2 matchs in a row. Last time I checked every champion side in any sport were defined by the same consistently performing team, emphasis on the same.

        • Keith Butler

          You are spot on. Utility players that can cover a couple of positions are great for the pine. Playing 3 full backs last weekend was a joke.

        • Nutta

          Completely agree. Sorry I can only ‘up’ once.

        • UTG

          Ben Smith has basically spent his whole career switching between 14 and 15. In the modern era there’s hardly any difference between a 14 and 15 defensively. Nearly all teams run a pendulum setup where three players stay behind the defensive line covering kicks in behind and working together in cover. Usually, when you play guys like Koroibete, Sevu Reece, Akira Ioane etc. (who all wear 11) the flyhalf or scrummie will fill in behind alongside the 14 and 15.

          In attack you can see differences between 14 and 15. Your 14 is usually someone like Ben Smith, he can take it to the line if necessary but he’s not a primary ball player or distributor because you’d prefer him running wider. The 15 can play like the 14 but if you’re wanting a second ball player then you’ll put them at 15 not 14 so they can hover in behind the play.

          Banks is very much in the mould of Ben Smith. He’s not a distributor; you want him running those lines close to the ruck on the short side and out wide to capitalise on his pace. Shifting him between 14 and 15 wouldn’t be an issue and his role would hardly change.

        • Who?

          Completely agree. The issue with last week wasn’t that we played two fullbacks (we’ve done that for years, with Folau and DHP), it was that we didn’t have a finisher in the 11 jersey. Because Hodge is another who’s really good at running a line off a playmaker, but isn’t going to set people up (even though Cheika thinks he’s a 10).

        • UTG

          Not taking a back up 11 after Koroibete was a real screw up. Even more strange given we carried Naivalu all last season and had even less use for him with Folau available.

        • onlinesideline

          ok between 14 and 15 maybe but 12 to 13 ? 6 to 7 and a 7 to 8 ?

        • John Tynan

          I know what you’re saying. I interpreted the htread as “could if had to” during a game, rather than “should be shifted to”

      • Nutta

        I would say he would of been for sure. A decent distributor who is a great tackler and a ballsy runner is 3-strikes gold IMO.

  • sambo6

    “It may have been a little bit clunky but we feel that we’re putting a few things in place and that we’re not far away,” White said

    Well…..it’s sounds like whatever condition Cheika has got that makes him speak complete bullshit is highly contagious……

    Luckily most of us here at GAGR have had our anti-bullshit jabs.

    • Patrick

      Several times a year for four years now.

    • Keith Butler

      And how many times have we heard “ we’ve got to work on a few things”.

      • laurence king

        At least two years worth

    • Yowie

      The media relations consultant to the Wallabies players is “Comical Ali” best known from Dubya’s Iraq invasion.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sFAtDw44yA

      • onlinesideline

        oh the memories. What number was he in the famous deck of cards ?

        • Yowie

          Should have been “Joker”. On a lazy 2 minute google & Wikipedia search he may not have been in the card deck. Someone who gives more sh!ts might update that information.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf (his real name) by my recollection wasnt on the deck of cards. He survived the war.

        • Nutta

          I remember the time he got shafty with the media at an outdoor pressa when in the background a couple of paramilitary types dragged some poor bugger out and hung him from a front-end loader in the background whilst he was talking. The cameras kept moving off him to the guy getting hung. He really didn’t like that and didn’t understand how could the media not hang on his every word.

        • onlinesideline

          animals mate

        • Brisneyland Local

          To used to Iraqi state media doing everything they were told. As opposed to western Media who by then were all throughtout Baggers!

      • Brisneyland Local

        Pure Gold.

  • onlinesideline

    For me this is the match that will define the season. If we lose this against a side that we tradionally beat, with our best players coming back on board, the props, JOC, maybe Pocock, Lila etc, with the home advantage of the Suncorp hillbilles its all over red over. No team can go into a RWC with virtually straights loses in every test match in every season of 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 and achieve any success. Its as simple as that. Its good niite Irene. No words will be able to smooth over this many defeats. The apocalypse will have arrived.

    The Horror. The Horror.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPPGMNOLaMw

    • Who?

      Other than BLL, Hoss and KB, is anyone actually going to the game this weekend? I had a ticket offer for the cheapest Test tickets I’ve ever seen. But I haven’t the motivation for the 2 hour drive (each way)…

      • Brisneyland Local

        Man I paid top dollar for all of our tickets. I wish I held off a few weeks and got them cheap.

        • Who?

          They had school kid tickets from $10/each. I’ve paid that to go to an NRC game!

        • Brisneyland Local

          LAst NRC game I went to we got in for gold coin donation.

        • Who?

          But that’s in the city. Those of us in the country, traditionally (I’m not sure it’s still the case) the sub union had to cover all the expenses like ground hire, transport, accommodation. So to break even, the sub unions had to charge (significant) ticket prices.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Thats a pity. Where in the state do you live?

        • Who?

          Qld. But it’s rare enough for us to get ‘high profile’ games and players up here that people pay. The attendance at NRC games and Reds trials over the years has been excellent. I was there when City played Country the first year (have a photo with my kids with Higgers and Samo), I was there when Thorn played for Country and they beat the previously unbeaten NSW Country Eagles…

        • Brisneyland Local

          I live on the Northside of Brissy. We would go to Norths (about a 5 min drive) to watch the games or occasionally Ballymore. Ballymore is a pain in the ass to get to. And they only opened on bar. that was for the Bris City Drua game. 25 mins to buy a beer. Heaven forbid. Norths were pretty red hot on their service. Lots of beer to be had.

        • Hoss

          State of denial usually.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Isnt that in Egypt somewhere?

        • Hoss

          I’am worth it.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Allegedly your honour!

      • onlinesideline

        its the drive back

      • Hoss

        I shall be suitable lubricated as i have found it wards off all manor of things:

        – sensible conversation
        – common sense
        – judgement
        – reality and depression
        – the opposite sex – coupled with using my personality as a prophylactic and it should be a wonderful evening.

        Granted i will have to talk slower and use smaller words given i shall be in the company of a Taswegian and Brisbanite, but verily i say to thee – bring it on.

        Wallabies by 12.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Dont worry old chap. I am bilingual. I did grow up south of the border! And just like you, I dont play hard to get, I play hard to want!

        • Yowie

          Hell Awaits!

          Oh, hang on, bilingual just means speaking two languages doesn’t it? Never mind.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Pure gold.

        • onlinesideline

          funny

        • Andrew Luscombe

          It still awaits though. What else does it do?

        • Yowie

          “…adultery, pillage, torture…”

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d85DsKjvU8

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Love it

        • Keith Butler

          Steady on Hoss. With my roots firmly bedded in the NH I speak the Queens English perfeckly innit!

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        I’m so pissed I’ll be in NZ for this one. Was looking forward to the GAGR host and especially the pre and post game shenanigans.

        I’ll make it up to myself by going to the ABs vs Boks game in Wellington

        • Who?

          Hopefully, if you’re across the ditch, you’ll at least be able to go to the Boks/ABs game… That’d have to make up for missing it!

        • Keith Butler

          Pity KRL as a I was looking forward to meeting you but the ABs v Boks should ease the pain. Should be a great game. There’s always next year and a Rebels game in Melbourne.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          That sounds like a plan. I love Melbourne

        • Hoss

          Shall toast your good health – several times.

      • Happyman

        I shall be there regardless of the situation I have to support my team.

      • John Tynan

        It may be a measure of all things Aussie rugby that I live in Brizzy, consider myself a supporter, didn’t realise it was on and booked dinner with friends…

  • IIPA

    My three points for the day ( frankly I couldn’t give a flying fark what yet another lawyer thinks about the IF case)…

    White is drinking the Kool Aid. But then they all do as it’s what Cheika demands. Only person who’s spoken out this year is Lochie McCaff who had a dig at Australian selection criteria. He’s not in the squad when he bloody well should be.

    Creevy is a big loss and might just tip things our way. Santiago Cordero is a great little player but I very much doubt he’s in line for the reserve hooking role eds.

    Nice read about Hunt. That Gordon backline with Karmichael and then Robbie Coleman at 10 be fun to watch. Shute Shield GF to Bankwest is a mistake in my opinion. It’ll be a similar size crowd in a more sterile environment where the stadium is not much over half full. They might sell a few more concessions and yeah getting to the toilet might be a little easier but that’s what all those magnificent Moreton Bay Figs in and around North Sydney Oval are for.

  • Nutta

    Morning Cobbers,

    IIPA said it already – he who slags the company line gets dropped. Facta non verba. That the best performed no8 in the nation this year is now conspicuous in his absence has proved that. So White will be as white as snow concerning Great Leader. I’m not advocating Quade Cooper style ‘toxic’ rebellion, but am noting the obvious.

    The bit about Hunt is great to hear.

    Whilst I am a massive advocate for getting rugby into western Sydney, I am perplexed and suspicious why SRU would suddenly play the Shute final in Parra. It’s an eastern Sydney competition. That is where it’s players, supporters and sponsors are. It’s hope of jagging a crowd in Parra is poor. The success of the North Sydney Oval experience is proven. Something smells like brown paper bags here.

    • Brisneyland Local

      I think that they are holding it at PArra so when it gets a small crowd they can say we tried and it failed. It gives them more excuses to never go West of Anzac avenue ever again.

      • Nutta

        At my most jaded & cynical moments i would wholeheartedly agree with something that short-term bottom-dwelling being the motivating factor.

        But something else is a-foot here because the success of the NthSydOval GF experience is established beyond doubt. Given its success, something well beyond any (mis)conception of ‘spread the love’ bonhomie – even as a ‘retaliate first’ tool – may be at work here. And unfortunately I fear I only know one thing that has a smell strong enough to do that, and it smells a bit like pineapples wrapped in brown paper. Someone is getting a kick here and it would be great if there was some transparency around it because in the current environment surrounding rugby administration particularly, trust is running low.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Trust was running low three years ago. It is totally absent now. Yep a bit of backshish is going on!

      • Will

        Anzac Parade? I’m in Croatia and have had 100 beers so my sarcasm detector might be malfunctioning….

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s.
    Some great debate yesterday on the site. I love that we all love the game and mostly (other than a couple of people) play the ball not the man. We are not the ROAR. My points whilst sipping coffee and eating breakfast cake 9they are not really muffins. Muffins are a name we give them so we don’t feel so bad eating them at breakfast time. But lets face facts they are cake ;-)
    – So Nic White drew the short straw and had to come out and sprout the dribble that we are used to hearing Hooepr, Genia, Foley, Phipps, and all the other people towing the company line. I bet the others don’t believe anymore so the newby gets to do it.
    – Well I am off to the game at Lang Park on Sat night with Mr Hoss, and Keith Butler and Mrs Butler. I for one am disappointed that Mr Creevey isn’t playing. He epitomises the spirit of rugby in my mind. Love him.
    – Don’t care about the Folau case.
    – Mr hunt. Well done that man. I watched him play at Souths with QC. And watched him in the NRC. He will be great for the club guys. I hope he does make the Wallabies squad. He will add some starch to the defence. He organises the back line very well.
    – I listened to the Foxsports Rugby Pod last night. They interview Tim horan and Nick Phipps. Boy there are two people on the pay roll appeasing there masters. And listening to the shit that Christy Doran spews out is embarrassing. But the ocean going variety of fuckwit award this week goes to Nick McArdle. You sir are a fucking tool. You want to know why us wallaby fans are bitter and twisted, it is because the Wallabies are shit, and tools like you in the media keep making excuses for them. Speak the truth or shut the fuck up. Rant Over.
    Over to you GAGR’s!

    • Who?

      Don’t forget, mate, that McArdle copped it from Cheika… He’s probably just trying to have some job security.
      .
      Guessing you’re at work near Bankwest, rather than being able to go down to the Wallabies’ BBQ this afternoon? Could’ve given Cheik a spray…

      • Brisneyland Local

        YEp am looking out my office window now seeing the big Bank West sign. Fly back to Vegas on Thursday arvo.
        Wasnt aware McArdle copped it from Cheika. McArdle stocks have just gone up a little. Anyone that cops it from Cheika cant be all bad! ;-)

        • Who?

          There was something about McArdle being too honest after or during a game in Argentina last year or the year before..? I don’t remember details – I’m sure others will. :-)

        • Brisneyland Local

          Well that is a positive. But his diatribe on that last pod was just OTT.

        • Mica

          How do you polish that turd was the turn of phrase I believe.

        • Keith Butler

          It was a classic and so true.

        • Nutta

          That was it.

    • laurence king

      To be honest, only need to make three changes. Head coach, defence coach, forwards coach. Give everyone else a medal for putting up with them.

      • Brisneyland Local

        I agree. I think with decent coaching and a good game plan these guys could be competitive.

        • laurence king

          Unfortunately, for that to happen, we would have to get such a hammering from the Argies and the ABs that it would go down in folklore and parents would use it to strike fear into their children about being stupid twits. Still, Cheika has has a distinct chance of making this happen.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I think if we get a thumping from the FISM’s and then a bigger one from the Nearlies, RA will have to act. They wont sack Cheika but you will see someone like a Laurie Fisher inserted to add some common sense to the tactics and game plan. If it is 4-0 at the end of the RC, they will be baying for cheika’s blood louder than ever before.

        • laurence king

          Distinct possibility BL

        • Brisneyland Local

          At what point do RA know their position on this is untenable.

  • Hoss

    Good morning jaded, weary Wallaby loving souls.

    Come on you lot – buck up !!

    Yes we are currently shit and with no signs of obvious improvement on the horizon – but enough already.

    Lay back, close your eyes, start humming ‘land of hope and glory’ while i take you on a magical mystery ride…….

    Its a full house at Suncorp. A wary expectation that ‘this’ could be the time.

    Sure, you’ve been hurt before, had your heart broken by daring to dream, wanting to love, aching to give your all to the cause, wanting to believe, blindly, faithfully, forsaking all others just get on the gold bandwagon. But you pull back, anxious, nervous, what if others around you are sensing a love unrequited – but what if they feel the same? What if you are all kindred spirits, all dormant gun powder, waiting for that spark to ignite – please let this be the time.

    There’s a flicker of light. Jimmy Nimble is back in the side after his journey of a thousand lives, Gilbert is at 15 to add spark and be the second play-maker, bastards is on the wing. Suddenly there’s pace, smarts and skill where once there were slugs, shit and crap. A young goliath at 6 ‘The Granite’, uscarred from a history of losses, undaunted by the task and unbowed by reputations. A bopper at 8 Isi Anygood – its early, but signs are good. Piggies back from a break, locks better for the run. A team back on solid ground, standing on sacred rock, living on borrowed time and the winds of time are blowing down the line. Yes i am stealing 80’s lyrics, but fuck me – i am getting stirred up.

    The game ebbs and flows, the crowd sheds their coats of reservation and doubt. Voices rise on the wind at first like gossamer, then almost tribal, a guttural chant – laced with expectation, a taste of something better. After 4 years our Wallabies, no ‘THE’ Wallabies have appeared and it is truly a site to behold.

    The game finishes, gold has triumphed and a new dawn awaits. The sun sits softer on thy cheek, the birds chirp sweeter than before and all is at one in the universe again.

    Go you bloody good things – Gold by 12 !!

    • onlinesideline

      I remember that Goanna song. It was 1979 – It was NYE around 2.00 am in the morning and I was with my mates on our annual Nambucca Heads never ending summer of barrels holiday. I was drunk and bewildered I didint have at least one blonde to escape the RSL with and stumble down to the beach with to consecrate my dream summer vacation. Instead I turned around and some short assed local prick with a giant chip on his shoulder looked me straight in the eyes and said “Im gonna head butt you”. Surrounded by his hired goons I soon realise life can get very real. Waves of dizziness envelope me, I sit down, feel my nose and look at the concrete. After 10 minutes and realising I survived, I stumble back to teh dance floor, regretting following that blonde towards the car park and am happy to see my mates cacking themselves on the dance floor, Goanna blasting out though oversizes speakers
      “Shit, she looks alright, I’ll go for her”

      • Hoss

        Ahhh the Summer Fornication Frolics – also known as the ‘coastal holiday’

        My playground was Yamba. We would arrive, dad would say as long as your back in 10 days to leave – have fun. Angourie Quarry for cliff diving. 36 holes of golf – all walking, morning swims, movies in an old scout hall at night and then, like a RSPCA ranger, i’d be out hunting feral pussy.

        • onlinesideline

          at tmes I seriously wonder if those original coastal places I grew up on are where its at. Ive pretty much been everywhere else. I could definitely handle the laid back summer breeze of the north coast and its hinterland with a white hot aussie honey by my side. (then again who couldnt) There must be some bloody fanatastic towns up there worth considering. All those surf spots. Feels like decades ago. Hold on it. It was.

        • juswal

          I tried it and it was good for a year. I concluded that holiday places are for holidays. If you try to live the holiday daydream full-time, some of the magic rubs off the lamp.

        • Who?

          Agreed. Beautiful places to live, but no money to be made there…

        • juswal

          Every day: a dawn swim, depending on the tides, or a walk on the sandy tracks behind the lagoon. Fruit and coffee. Drive north or south looking for surf, rarely found it. Hamburger lunches under Norfolk Island Pines. Find something to do to burn off energy: kayak on the river; bike ride, walk over the headland to the allegedly nudist beach. Cold bottles of beer waiting in the fridge at home. Swim, swim, swim.

          Every evening: housie in the surf club shelter sheds or a movie in the School of Arts hall. An ice-cream cone (kid) or a rum at the Seabreeze (big kid). Home for bed: sunburnt skin on tough sheets and a horsehair mattress, sleeping on the cottage verandah, protected by white lattice and a smoking mosquito coil.

        • onlinesideline

          oy stop it – ya making me homesick

        • laurence king

          Wallaby Point (now there’s a name) near Taree, used to slide down the sandhills there on a piece of masonite.

        • Brisneyland Local

          The Yamba Four square. that was owned by friends of our family. great hunting grounds those. Yamba and Balina were my hunting grounds.

        • Who?

          I always thought Minnie and Wooli were nicer… Almost moved to Maclean, served our time in Grafton (no association with the correctional facilities, but living there was enough of a sentence)…
          .
          So Hoss was John Williamson? Every summer holidays, his dad drove a camel train…

        • Brisneyland Local

          I really dug Iluka for some reason.
          I went back there a couple of years ago and it really hasnt changed much.

        • Who?

          Middle of nowhere! :-)
          .
          It’s funny how many ‘old’ towns (for Australia) exist along that coast, with no growth. Port Macquarie – beautiful place, settled what, 1824? Population around 35k? Why wouldn’t a person want to live there? Yet its population growth, especially compared to the capitals, is miniscule. Only issue is there’s no money to be made, there’s no industry. :-(

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah I know. No industry equals no jobs. Port M is a nice place. It is sad to see a lot places like that. I have visited a lot of rural and regional towns lately with work. No jobs, high unemployment, high crime, lots of ice. All bad stuff really.

        • Hoss

          Port Macquarie is gods waiting room mate.

          You don’t go there to live, you go there to die.

        • Who?

          Last went there in 2004… Still think it’s a lovely place. Off to Forster at Christmas – lived near there as a toddler. Very much looking forward to it.
          .
          People think my town’s a place where farmers go to retire. Without realizing there’s almost twice as many private high schools – which often offer boarding services – as there is public high schools. It’s funny how perceptions are established. And how often we need to change them.
          That said, if you’re in “God’s Waiting Room,” there’s many poorer and less scenic places to be sitting than on the banks of the Hastings. :-)
          .
          EDIT: – you didn’t mention whether or not you used to sing Waltzing Matilda at the Tests?! Are you really John Williamson, in the camel train to Yamba? :-P

        • onlinesideline

          lol

        • juswal

          Closer to 50,000 and growing, with unaffordable housing. The real estate is priced for retirees from Sydney so working-age people (even if there are local jobs on offer) will look elsewhere.

        • Who?

          Didn’t realize it’d grown so much! I knew the housing was unaffordable – can’t remember why, I’m guessing curiosity, but I had a look at house prices down there only a month or three ago…

        • laurence king

          Port was about 5 thousand when I was a kid, Taree was 11 thousand and now is about 17 thousand. Still a lovely place on the manning and nice beaches.

        • Who?

          Lived in Taree, too. Good memories from down there, and agree – great beaches.

    • Brisneyland Local

      And then you wake up!

      • Hoss

        Cold Briz, cold.

        I can see i have my hands full training you Padwan.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering!

        • Nutta

          What does pragmatism lead to?

        • Yowie

          Keeping-on an under-performing coach?

        • Hoss

          The promised land

        • Brisneyland Local

          a generally acceptable outcome! In my humble opinion.

    • Keith Butler

      The taste I’m getting Hoss is from the spirits in our hip flasks being drained every time We stuff up.

    • Thylacine

      Hoss was dreaming when He wrote this
      Forgive him if it goes astray
      But when He woke up this morning
      He could have sworn it was Redemption Day
      The sky was all Green and Gold
      There were fans running everywhere
      Trying to run towards the celebration
      And you know that they didn’t even care

      2019, party over, oops
      Out of time!
      So on Saturday night at Suncorp
      We’re going to party like it’s 1999…

      Apologies to The Artist Formerly Known As#
      In collaboration with the lock formerly known as The Slug (Keith Butler).

      • Nutta

        Wow. Poetry on G&GR? I’m feeling a cross between stimulated and dirty little schoolboy.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Do you know the one about the Boy that stood on the deck with a pocket full of crackers!

        • Hoss

          Was he from Nantuckett ?

        • Brisneyland Local

          I think so!

        • Geoffro

          Sauce was flying along the chalk
          Gilbert and Bastards looming as backers
          Spanners’ cutout shot
          Missed the lot
          And hit the touchie in the knackers

        • Yowie

          Good stuff. I suppose “And hit the assistant referee in the knackers” is not as rhythmically pleasing.

        • Timbo

          Depends who the AR is. I’d be pleased, rhythmically or not, if it was a kiwi ref that copped one in the cobblers

        • Brisneyland Local

          Tip of the Hat! Pure gold. Make sure you post that again today so everyone will see it.

        • Geoffro

          Haha,thanks but better not risk a haunting from Hemans for yet another parody of her classic

        • Brisneyland Local

          Go on! You know you want to!

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Pure poetry mt friend

  • Who?

    So, I’m on the phone to Fair Work. Have questions about another matter (not even involving me!).
    .
    Should I ask about Folau? :-P

    • Brisneyland Local

      Pure gold.

    • Andrew Luscombe

      Tell em you’ve got this friend who …

      • Who?

        I was already doing that about another matter. Couldn’t easily then swing in a freedom of speech/religion and antidiscrimination matter. Would’ve been too far fetched.
        .
        But it was tempting….
        And I might’ve gotten farther with that topic than I did with my own one. :-(

        • Brisneyland Local

          I have had numerous dealings with the FWC. user friendly they are not.

        • Bernie Chan

          Too many come from some kind of sheltered upbringing…no grasp on reality. Hang on…they could qualify as Refs…?

        • Brisneyland Local

          I was more thinking RA.

        • Bernie Chan

          True…though hard to shift the RA incumbents out. They are stuck on like barnacles…

        • Brisneyland Local

          So are FWA people. It is a job for life.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Ouch!

        • Bernie Chan

          Sorry KRL…correction…should be “Super Rugby Refs”…not the volunteers who officiate for the love of the game and their kids (I do some RA stuff at kiddies footy…if not coaching…).

        • Hoss

          Yep – ‘you’re a company, there an individual – pay em’

          Its like dealing with Sex Workers – we know what you are, the rest is just a negotiation

        • Yowie

          Negotiations can get “tied up” sometimes. Just ask Boy George.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Pure gold!

  • Bernie Chan

    Another interesting piece by Brett McKay on another site…got to agree with his sentiments in general. The systems suck…more to the point, the lack of an effective system and ability to adapt when “Plan A” isn’t working…
    For this the coaches have to beat the brunt of the critical analysis…saying we saw positive signs is not enough…

    • laurence king

      Cheika put exactly the same spin on every loss over the last 2 years that I can remember. Good coaches get the best out of players, don’t see that happening here

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Nic,
    Well as much as I love White’s optimism I’ll be happier with something happening on the field to be honest. I’m sure he truly believes this but as always actions speak louder than words.

    Great news on Hunt and I hope he continues to develop his skills at either one of 12 or 13. If I was him I’d look more to 13 as I think the depth there is less.

    In some way’s it’s a shame Creevy is out but better for the Wallabies as he’s a class player and adds a lot to the side.

    Who cares what Folau is doing. He can fuck right off.

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