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Tuesday’s Rugby News looks at The lack of a Wallaby captain, the All Black’s coach talking up Super Rugby AU, a history-making former wild child, no crowd for north v south game.


No Skipper Yet

Hooper shapes to pass

New Wallabies coach Dave Rennie hasn’t named his Wallaby captain yet! And you know what? I’m okay with that. In fact, I’d be happy with the captain being named after each matchday 23 was named. I don’t believe a representative side should be tied to a player no matter what and that seems to have been the case in recent times.

Now, I’m a pragmatist and I know RA needs someone to sit in press conferences and do media calls. But surely we could pick a squad for each campaign and pick leaders from the players picked? Right now, for the Bledisloe series, we’d probably end up with Michael Hooper and next year for the mid-year tests probably still Hooper but as we move forward things get murkier. Why lock ourselves into one person when we can pick the best guy multiple times a year.

Rennie has stated that he will pick a captain when he picks his squad and not before and that he holds the current Wallaby captain, Michael Hooper in high esteem.

“I’ve spoken lots to Hoops and he’s an impressive man and playing really good footy.

“But from the start we’ve always said that you’ve got to earn the right to play for the Wallabies, so we want to pick guys who are in form and then we’ll pick a skipper and leaders from that group.

“There’s no hurry to do that and I just think from our perspective if we pick a captain early it gives a bit of a signal to other guys that we’ve already made up our mind over who is number one.”

While Hooper is favourite to once again wear the No.7 jersey, Reds duo Liam Wright and Fraser McReight are two players in form that are also in the frame to play for the Wallabies in 2020.

Hooper, who has led the Wallabies 46 times since first skippering Australia in 2014, spoke last month of his desire to continue leading his country.

“We’re trying to keep pressure on everyone,” Rennie said.

“The greatest thing from our perspective, Hoops has made it clear he wants to be skipper and enjoys the role and he did a pretty good job the one time he was skipper this year with the Waratahs -had a big win – which is great from our perspective.

“Once we name our squad we’ll name our skipper and leaders at the same time.”

Ian Foster Talks Super Rugby

All Blacks post match press conference – Wayne Smith and Ian Foster

After the initial bullshit offer from NZ rugby to chuck a team or two in their comp there’s been a softening of the talk coming from across the ditch.

Since then Australia and New Zealand have run their own comps and by all accounts, our comp is chugging along swimmingly.

The latest person to speak up is none other than the new All Blacks coach Ian Foster.

“The difference between their first couple of rounds to their last couple has been dramatic,” Foster said.

“From an All Blacks coach’s perspective we’ve seen a significant rise in standard in their competition.

“That bodes well for a Super competition but also for us as we head into a Bledisloe series.”

While New Zealand’s Super Rugby Aoteroa was hugely popular with fans, it is not seen as sustainable.

Foster said a new format is needed and Australia should be part of any solution

“A lot of work is in place saying ‘what does a really sustainable competition look like?’,” he said.

“Everyone is taking their time to get that right.

Rugby Australia has stood firmly behind all five of our franchises. whether the Kiwi’s are interested in that remains to be seen.

JOC Makes History

James O’Connor gets the one-handed carry and offload away for Fraser McReight to score

James O’Connor has become the first Australian player to score more than 100 points for three franchises. After O’Connor’s firsts stint at the Reds many punters couldn’t see it ever happening.

James had had stints at both the Western Force and the Melbourne Rebels before coming home to Queensland to have a crack at a World Cup spot but his body wasn’t up to it. When he came back for his second stint at the Reds he was a changed man both spiritually and physically.

The Wallabies star brought up the milestone with a first-half penalty to match the feat he achieved during stints with Force and the Melbourne Rebels.

O’Connor dazzled on the Gold Coast, scoring a try, setting up three others with deft passes and booting 17 points as the impressive Reds embarrassed the Perth club and soared, temporarily, to the top of the Super Rugby AU ladder.

 

North-South Hits Another Hurdle

Photo Courtesy of Keith McInnes

Photo Courtesy of Keith McInnes

New Zealand Rugby’s already delayed North-south match has hit another hurdle with the Kiwi governments new CIVID 19 restrictions forcing the game to be played without a crowd.

On Monday the New Zealand government extended the lockdown in Aukland until Sunday while the rest of the country continues with social distancing rules.

These rules mean that while the game can be played, unfortunately, no one can attend.

A NZR spokesman said they were working through the government’s decision and should be able to make an announcement on the fixture on Tuesday.

It was unlikely the game could be pushed back any further than September 5, NZR’s head of professional rugby Chris Lendrum said last week.

He added that it could cost NZR upwards of $NZ1 million ($A910,000) if the game was not played.

Wellington Regional Stadium was earlier placed on standby as an alternate venue for the game.

The relaxation of Auckland’s lockdown from Sunday, however, should allow players to enter or exit the city, allowing teams to assemble for training if the game goes ahead.

  • Hoss

    ‘James O’Connor, records, blah blah blah’

    I hit 100 with three clubs EVERY bloody round. Farking 1 iron , that prick of a wedge and that putter that must have a bend in it. Although my grandfather always said to only carry a 1 iron for protection in electrical storms as not even Jehovah himself could hit a 1 iron.

    • Geoffro

      the bishops perfect round from caddyshack springs to mind

      • Geoffro

        Oh,and just remind him Harrison has kicked 30 from 32 straight or thereabouts

    • Alister Smith
    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      100 per round is something I aspire to mate. Currently I’m playing like the winner is the one who uses his clubs the most not the least

      • Hoss

        But i stop count at hole 13-14…..Good scorer beats a good player any day.

        • Damo

          I’ve always said golf is about 4 holes too long. Who came up with 18 anyway? Soap dodgers I believe- when the Empire had nothing to hurry or worry about.

        • Hoss

          Yep and in a little known fact the Poms changed the name from its original Scottish origin of ‘Whack-Fuck’ as the English gentry thought it an affront to good manners. I personally keep the Scottish name going when I play.

        • Geoffro
        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          That is gold

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Only called Golf because Fuck was already taken

    • Happyman

      Your dad and Lee Trevino not even god himself can hit a one iron.

      • Hoss

        Mate – its why i always travel on long cross-country trips with Greg Norman. Because if you ever need to find water in a desert, give the Shark a 7 iron and salvation is at hand.

        • onlinesideline

          2 lastings memories of Greg Norman being 6 shots up leading into last 9 at Masters

          1 – teeing off at the 15th. Green Jacket was waiting for him. Hearing that “wooossshh” as he let loose with the 2 wood – a holllaring and a hootin and glory was only 30 minutes away.

          2 – that close up of him leaning to his right, biting his lip as along with his second shot his dreams went plonk into the drink.

          Most gut wrenching sporting moment I have ever watched.

        • Hoss

          Yep, i have never rewatched it. Got up early as a young bloke to see him get the green jacket – 6 shot lead as i recall going into the 4th round and then Nick Faldo just got inside his head and………….gut wrenching.

    • Andrew Luscombe

      What you need to do is to follow in the footsteps of the fabled William Web Elis – pick the bloody ball up, run past everybody, and put it in the hole. If you can then kick it into the hole from your chosen point at the edge of the green, you’ll claim to have scored a “flamingo”, which obviously outranks any current bird involved in golf. When you see another group playing on the course, just tackle them, pinch the ball, and do the same.

      I’m sure everyone will see the value your new inovation brings. In 100 years or so, you’ll be a legend of the sport of golfby union when people are playing for the Hoss world cup.

    • UTG

      You must be a masochist carrying a 1 iron in the bag. Does it double as a self-flagellation tool post round?

      • Hoss

        I usually throw it further than i hit the pill.

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Thanks Sully,

    Great to see a coach with an open mind on things. personally I think making Hooper the captain again would send the worst possible message to Australian rugby. It would be seen as a continuation of the NSW influence and just more of the same bullshit we’ve had to put up with for the last 5 years. Hooper’s experience as a captain lies in being in charge of a losing team that has taken Australia from 2nd in the world to 7th with no plan B to implement, no idea how to implement one if it exists, poor decision making on the field, no relationship with referees and an inability to fire up the players. I’m not sure Australia needs to continue that theme. Personally I don’t think he’s the best 7 in Australia anyway and I’m not sure he should be a run-on. Interestingly in most of the on-line “team of the week” from Rugby.com.au and the like he has hardly featured even when the Waratahs have been winning, not that that has happened much.

    Good to see NZ backing down from the stupid position they started with and more and more I’m thinking it’ll be a 10 team competition next year with 5 Australian and 5 Kiwi teams. I hope if they do that then there will be 2 teams having a bye each week as we saw with the analysis done by MST that this is quite necessary in the derby competition. Well done JOC and lets hope the mature approach continues. It’s been great to see him develop as both a player and a person and an example for others I feel.

    • Alister Smith

      Maybe Foster sees the games against Aussie teams as bye matches ;)

      • Happyman

        The grown ups are speaking mate with comments like that.

        Stuff.co.nz is just a click away.

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Ouch!

    • Nutta

      Negotiations are negotiations. Great to see folk overly committing to cast-positions rather than looking at mutually sustainable objectives…

    • Jason

      I’d agree Hooper is maybe on the whole the best 7. But I’d say both Wright and McReight are both coming for him hard! McReight has had less time on the field than the other two but somehow has forced 14 turnovers! Hooper has 8 and Wright has 9. Hooper has 92 tackles, with Wright having 84 (McReight not being listed but likely being close).

      So MAYBE Hooper has the edge but I’d say it’s getting very close.

      I am really warming to the idea of JO’C as captain, he’s probably my fave rando pick. But a few people have suggested maybe Wright as an option.

      • UTG

        If not Hooper it’ll be Toomua.

        • Jason

          IDK. Toomua isn’t a bad option but he’s not doing an exceptional job with the Rebels.
          I’ve seen a few people suggest Liam Wright, he looks like he could be a quality option especially if Rennie feels we need to move beyond the Cheika era. (I think we do).

        • UTG

          I’ll be very, very surprised if a 22 year old 1 cap Wallaby is made captain.

          I’m not sure if he even makes the 23.

        • Jason

          I’m not saying I’d ‘call for’ Wright to be Wallabies Capitan, but he’d be a good option.

        • UTG

          I certainly think he’s a good candidate down the line but too early this year.

    • UTG

      Would the appointment of Hooper as captain by a Kiwi living in Queensland really be construed as being down to NSW influence?

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        ha, I was waiting for your post. No it wouldn’t but it sends a message that nothing has changed and I’m not sure that’s a good message, especially as he has a proven demonstrated record of failure as a captain

        • UTG

          You know Hooper is one of my trigger words.

          I think a lot has changed with a new coach, new RA leadership, and a brand new batch of players and that appointing Hooper after a deliberation process doesn’t void any of that.

          I’m not convinced that there’s necessarily causality between Hooper’s captaincy and the relatively meagre success of the national side. When Australian Super sides go a year without beating a single NZ side there are a lot more underlying structural issues at play.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Yeah and I know we’ll always probably disagree on a lot about Hooper. Absolutely he was not the total problem but part of the responsibility of being a captain is being held accountable for the Teams performance. I can understand him not being hard accountable during the last reign as the coaches never were, apart from Larkham, so he shouldn’t have either but I also don’t think he’s ever done anything to show he should be the captain either and in fact I don’t think he’s showing enough to show he should start. But that’s just me

        • laurence king

          I think that the Tahs forwards got bossed the other night and Hooper along with them. I think that with his game he can be a point of difference to a team in attack. But the other night, though he got a good turnover and worked hard he was largely ineffective imo. I don’t believe that he will be a certain starter over the next 12 months and so I think someone else should be captain. OC is the only bloke I think is a certainty to start at the moment

        • Steve

          I don’t necessarily think there’s causality either UTG/KARL. Just like I don’t think national leaders really have that much influence on how well the country goes under their leadership, but they still claim it when it goes well and take the blame when it goes badly.

          My main point is that the main effect of leaders is the psychology of those underneath them.

          Here is clearly one of, if not the, best 7s in Aus. But I think the right answer probably just lies in how he is perceived by the playing group – Do they think he led poorly under Cheika and want a change, or do they still think he’s the right man for the job?

      • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

        I would have to say it could be still viewed as such on the basis that the Gold Coast is also known as North Bondi. It is also known as West Tak-a-poona, so could also be viewed as a Kiwi conspiracy to undermine Aus Rugby.

        • Geoffro

          I’ve lobbied locally for them to change the name to the Green and Gold Coast but as the locals don’t seem interested in supporting locally based professional sports teams let alone a national one it’s a no go.

  • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

    Man, Rugby in NZ must be in a bad way if they can’t get crowds to the North v South game. Good call RA on making the Kiwis go through an expression of interest process to join our competition.
    I am genuinely shocked that, even though the kiwi teams are filled with demi gods with mad skillz bro, they still can’t get people to fill the stands.

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      Covid mate

      • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

        Ahhh that old chestnut. I’m guilty of using it to. The wife says can you take the rubbish out, I just say sorry, Covid.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Hahahaha yeah it’s become the standard excuse for 2020

        • Hoss

          Your my MVP this season Taht, loving your work, although staff are getting suspicious about my outbursts of laughter when checking ‘data’.

        • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

          Big Call, I’ll humbly accept and immediately extend whatever powers it comes with by 12 months.

        • Damo

          And if you want to flush out a steely stare + expletive try “sorry darling I can’t , I just sanitised”.

        • Geoffro

          “sorry darling I can’t , I just sanitised”…..just before the shit really hits the fan

        • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

          That is the excuse she uses as I give the sexy eyes with the sexy talk.;..

  • Moz

    And a word from the Zen-master himself as well.

    https://www.facebook.com/TheRoarRugby/photos/a.148804928652641/1507998272733293/

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s been blessed with a gunga galunga from the Dalai Lama himself at some stage, which is nice.

    • Geoffro

      The Prodigal Son of oz rugby…Hes done good but we need to move on a bit now

      • Why?

        • Geoffro

          Its established and accepted he’s turned the corner regarding his off field behaviour and honestly Im not really concerned of how nice a guy he has become as long as he continues bringing it in his on field performances which he seems to be doing.

        • laurence king

          I think that the level of maturity that he is displaying puts him into captaincy consideration.

      • Moz

        While he’s sending out all the love to us, I’ll be sending my love back to him.
        And I thought he had a cracking game on the weekend. Really took control, looked composed, and seemed to have time for what he was doing.
        Harness the good, block the bad.

        • Geoffro

          OK , Im on board.Everytime he gets the ball I’ll just go Ommmmmmmmm.

    • Hoss

      Loving JOC 2.0. If i came home and found him in bed with Mrs Hoss, i’d tuck him in and get him a warm milk.

      • laurence king

        I can’t think of a more complete performance by an Aus 10 in years. Admittedly the opposition wasn’t Super strong, but gee, he was still good.

        • Alister Smith

          If I forget everything else about his game on the weekend I think I will still remember that one armed pass.

  • The Jackal

    Blesisloe Cup in Perth and Brisbane. Dates depend on where the AFL selects for its GF

  • Gilbert

    What would have happened to JOC if Robbie Deans had let him develop and not put him in so early against the Lions at 10. We might have had a different young man…

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