Here are video highlights of Quade Cooper‘s first professional boxing match versus Barry “been there and” Dunnett. Don’t blink or you might miss it!
Where do they find these chumps?
Highlights? It was 3 mins! Anyone find a link to the whole fight, please post!!!
They’re pretty solid hits that got through way too easy. A typical Khoder Nasser approved opponent. This guy couldn’t avoid a jab to save himself, literally.
What a con. Pitty anyone who paid to watch SBW And Cooper. It’s the Aussie version of WWE!
you jump in the ring with Barry then
Well done Quade
Its a fix!!! Cooper shortened it to one round.
He may or may not have been a chump, I don’t know, but Cooper should surely shut up some haters that were saying he would have a glass jaw etc etc, he copped a couple of pretty good hits there & backed it up by knocking the bloke out. Credit where it’s due fellas, I’ll bet no-one saw a first round knockout coming no matter who he was up against. Fact of the matter is this “chump” was three times the experienced boxer QC is.
Well said Brax. Yes his defence is for all sense and purpose non existent but he can just afford it starting out, due to his freakish spatial awareness. Absolutely freakish. The punches he landed he did his best to make sure they counted, again due to exceptional timing and coordination. That is very very rare in a boxer. For his first fight, with a guy with some experience and training and skills behind him – Cooper was either mad as a cut snake or crazy brave. Unique confidence in his own ability and not that much fear of failure. The reason he is frustrated at Wallaby level is because he is bored shitless with Deans’ approach.
SBW was similarly crazy brave to take on such an experienced, tough fighter this early on in his career and geez that Botha must be a tough bastard. SBW went to a place he has probably never been before, being bullied like that but hell he came out the other side in one piece, admittedly thanks to a little help from his friends. And you can’t really blame them. SBW was in big trouble
He’s fast and fit, but otherwise it was a bit sad. Can Daniel Geale play on the wing at even club rugby level? Probably not, so it’s no surprise. I would also like to add, that all people involved would easily beat me at nearly anything but especially boxing.
Don’t think you can draw any comparasions to Quade’s boxing and his rugby defence. Two entirely different beasts in my opinion. As far as his boxing is concerned, Quade wouldn’t be too much of an opponent for most heavyweight amateurs I know in South Auckland. He got a lucky one away this time that ended the bout, but a boxer Quade is not. His promoter can feed him all the easy match ups in the business (they get paid too y’know!!), but the day that dawns that Quade is matched up with a seasoned fighter with any class at all (dozens of them in Samoa and Tonga) will be the day that Quade’s boxing career is over. And I say this as someone who has a lot of time for Quade as a rugby player.
Nice work Quadey!!… keep your gloves up son!!
First fight with really bugger all training, not so bad. Gotta keep those gloves up son…
i’m glad he was able to find the time to do this and that his team had no important pre season trial match to win so that they remained in the winning habit.
on a more serious note, his boxing defense is about as good as his rugby defense.
(I watched the whole card and already wrote this up elsewhere, so here goes:)
Cooper proved he can be fast and athletic across multiple sports. But wow, does he need some more training. His head was so high he looked like he was trying to look over a fence, and his hands were so low he looked like he was trying to tie his shoes (QC — your left should be closer to your head, not your knee). Because of those low hands, Dunnet tagged him with an overhand right that was way more trouble than it should have been. Don’t look away from the punch, move toward it so if it connects before it reaches maximum velocity, and use your hands to catch it before it catches your dome. That can be learned, but it takes practice, and some new fighters never get it. (Brock Lesnar in the UFC never, ever, ever figured that out and he turned from punches, which is what made him such an easy striker’s target.)
But Cooper’s jab is snappy and stiff, and when he used it, it was effective. If he fights again, he should double up his jab; it’s a hard jab, and can create more openings for him. The right that knocked out Dunnet was thrown with complete commitment; if you saw the replay, Cooper followed through completely on the shot and was looking down at the mat after he connected. He threw it all into that shot. If he keeps it up, and focuses on developing some real defense and some less telegraphed footwork, he’ll be serviceable. But he’ll need development if he’s going to fight someone with more than a desk-conditioned body.
SBW’s match was strange all around. The announcer got his name wrong, twice. They didn’t play any walkout music for him, and he was the only fighter that happened to. That meant he could hear the full disdain of the crowd. After the fight, the didn’t turn the volume on the mic when he was interviewed, so nothing could be heard. And those weren’t the weirdest parts.
As for the 12 vs 10 rounds, here’s what’s up: The WBA is investigating if this ever should have been a sanctioned bout or if it was incorrectly sanctioned. Every title fight in the WBA is for 12 rounds. However, this was for the WBA International Heavyweight Title, which isn’t an officially recognized belt, so it could be a 10 rounder. And therein lies the problem. SBW was told and prepped for a 10 round fight. The time keeper knew that and one of the judges did. Everyone else assumed it was 12 rounds because of “WBA” and “Title,” but didn’t check the fine print. Botha’s promoter even found out before the fight that it was a 10-rounder, and he admits he didn’t tell Botha, which A.) shows a measure of arrogance, and B.) is grounds for Botha to get a new promoter.
SBW has improved miles beyond where he was with Clarence Tillman; he’s keeping his chin down, his hands are up more, his movement around the ring is more fluid, and he proved he can stick to an effective gameplan (tying Botha up every time the White Buffalo rushed in to close distance).
What he also showed is that he had no business being in there with such a crafty, seasoned and nasty opponent. Williams looked out of sorts and confused by some of Botha’s tactics, few of which were legal — which added to the weirdness. When he tied up Botha and the ref stepped in to break them, Botha would stand on SBW’s feet and push, knocking him off balance and creating openings. (Lesson: watch your footwork — don’t let your opponent dance on them.)
When they were tied up and the ref wasn’t in position, Botha kept throwing his “buffalo horns,” double-punches to the back of the head. Botha admitted this, and said he was watching for when the ref couldn’t see so he could throw them. The big gloves hit the back and along the ears, knocking off the equilibrium (Botha used this to some effect against Tyson). Not exactly a legal tactic, but one SBW kept letting him get away with. (Lesson: When backing out of a break, keep your gloves up to block something coming in.)
The most egregious tactic, though, were the multiple shots Botha threw on the break. SBW’s corner was complaining about that all the way through the fight, but the first one that caused real damage was in the 9th; the ref stepped in to break them up, Botha turned towards SBW’s corner and stuck his tongue out at them, and then threw an overhand right over the ref while the ref was still trying to push him back and landed cleanly on SBW’s temple. That knocked him dizzy, and was so blatant the ref took a point. Williams showed his conditioning and some honest guts in being able to hang on for the rest of the fight — and Botha used the shot off the break again in the 10th to nearly finish Williams off. The ref also took a point away from Williams at the end for hanging on. (Lesson: Protect yourself at all times, especially against a nasty old coot who isn’t looking at you when he throws his most effective punch.)
Botha and his camp were arrogant and never took Williams seriously, and deserved what they got. A promoter who decides not to tell his fighter how long the fight is isn’t a professional. If Botha was as good and confident as he assumed, he should have put SBW away by the 7th or 8th.
Williams looked lucky. His jab is excellent and he marked Botha up in the early rounds, and he has a hard right. He also showed a decent chin, and by about the 4th or 5th showed he wasn’t afraid to trade with Botha — which is huge. You actually saw SBW grow as a boxer during the fight.
But he now has to learn to put combinations together and just not settle on that 1-2 (Botha was telling Williams during the fight that he was telegraphing his punches). He also has to learn those lessons from above — footwork, covering his head when tied up, and always protecting himself. Those lapses made it a much closer fight than it should have been. But given the other weird elements surrounding this fight, and the hostility of the crowd, I wonder if SBW will actually be interested in putting his rugby career at risk for a hobby neither he nor the fans seemed to enjoy.
That said, Williams said if there’s a rematch, he wants to do it in Cape Town. Williams recons he has more fans there than Botha does, and probably more than in Brisbane.
Excellent summary mxyzpltk.
Just learned today that Botha failed a drug test (phentermine, a stimulant), but the test was apparently administered by someone associated with Nasser. Also, the WBA administrator for then region, Brad Vocale, is looking into the whole thing.
However, Queensland doesn’t fall under any governance like South Australia does, and Nasser’s put on fights there before because he can muscle people around without oversight. (He’s done that with Mundine before, like changing the gloves at the last minute or something like that.) As far as the questionable sanctioning goes, it seems the belt Williams was given was a replica — because it may not be an officially sanctioned bout.
Ugh, this fight… I don’t know if there was any match fixing involved, but it sure seems like there was tampering on both sides. Botha wants another test, and if he fails it, screw him. If Williams sticks with boxing, he might want to do what Mundine did and drop Nasser.
@MattRowley Very kind of you thanks Matt. Will stay in touch with regular visits to GAGR— Laurie Fisher (@LordLaurie58) June 30, 2014
@MattRowley Very kind of you thanks Matt. Will stay in touch with regular visits to GAGR
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