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Wales v Australia

Wales v Australia

The long Welsh Australian rivalry continues. The Wallabies have dominated this contest and most pundits have predicted this to continue. Wales, I’m sure, have other plans.

The Match

The First Half

A great half of rugby from both teams with the Wallabies leading on the scoreboard and have most of the play and possession. Australia scored three tries to one with the first to Tatafu Polota-Nau who drove a lineout maul ten metres to score in the right corner. The second to Adam Coleman running the hard line and catching a beautifully timed  ‘flat’ pass from Will Genia and scoring untouched while the Welsh defence pleaded for a forward pass. The third to Michael Hooper after the Wallabies stretched the defence to the right, then to the left before going back to the right. Hooper had the ball at full pace with a retreating defensive line and that was all the space he needed to dot down in almost the same spot as the first two tries.

Wales scored their try from the same type of play as Australia’s third try. They had a half break down Australia’s left wing to draw Australia’s cover defence, then immediately move the ball to the other wing where Steff Evans accounted for the scrambling defence of Kurtley Beale. Leigh Halfpenny slotted two penalties and Reece Hodge kick one magnificent penalty from touch 51 metres out to leave us with a 22-13 halftime score to Australia
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The Second Half

Wales dominated possession in the second half but it was Kurtley Beale who sneaked a steal in a tackle near the halfway line and was halfway to the tryline before anyone realised he had the ball. After a video replay so that everyone else could figure out what had happened Foley converted to take the score out to 29-16. Michael Hooper took a yellow card for his team’s repeated breakdown infringements with 13 minutes to go, but Wales couldn’t take advantage of their scrum advantage and they went scoreless for the ten minutes of the yellow card. It wasn’t until the final moments of the game that  Hallam Amos was able to dive over in the corner despite a great tackle from Korobette.

Australis defeats Wales 29-21.


The Game Changer

It was a game of two halves to quote an old cliche. But it wasn’t enough to change the result. Australia scored four tries to two and was in charge fror the entire game.

The G&GR MOTM

Will Genia was everywhere and played the entire game. He sniped, passed accurately and was a constant threat.

Wallaby watch

Tatafu Polota-Nau had a huge game only blotting his copy book with one crooked throw. Reece Hodge’s long distance shots would be making teams rethink a couple of their stratagies.


The Details

Crowd:

Score & Scorers

Wales 21
Tries: Steff Evans, Hallam Amos
Conversions: Leigh Halfpenny 1/2
Penalties: Leigh Halfpenny 3/3
Australia 29
Tries: Tatafu Polota-Nau, Adam Coleman, Michael Hooper, Kurtley Beale
Conversions: Bernard Foley 3/4
Penalties: Reece Hodge 1/1

Cards

Michael Hooper yc

  • Sorry for the late post everyone. I slept through my alarm.

    • Alister Smith

      Thanks for posting Sully

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      No worries mate. Great win. The Wallabies really dominated the Welsh forwards

  • Andy

    Nice right up. Don’t think we played that well. Our go forward was poor up front but Wales did tackle well. Hanigan and Simmons would have been lucky to make a single metre between them and were again passive in the tackle.

    Would like to see Mcalman come in to the 15 next week. Need more impact with ball in hand.

    One last point. How the fuck is Jackson getting internationals? Absolutely no consistency in his refereeing.

    • Brumby Runner

      Still making it up as he goes along. Some of his decisions, both penalties and knock-ons, were unfathomable.

    • Hoss

      Succint, accurate, insightful – i like it.

    • HK Red

      Fair to stick Hooper in the bin for repeated team infringements, but how was Davies(?) not also shown yellow a few minutes earlier. There was no part of that knock-down that wasn’t totally deliberate. That’s meant to be a yellow every day

      • Andy

        Funny thing was the breakdown. We got pinged very quickly several times for infringing. He gave Wales a lot more freedom. And some of the line out throws were shocking. I know this year refs have been very lenient in this space but he blew tafs first one up which was nowhere near the worst. Then let the rest go.

  • Timbo

    We won, but that was a win that won’t worry Jones and the Roses.
    Hanigan was valiant, but ineffective in hitups. In McCalman, we have a 6/8 combo with both mass and accuracy at the BD. Can also jump. He needs to be our starting 6 or 8 with McMahon to 6.
    kerevi and TK were kept quiet by the welsh defence but Kerevi was slow to turn and cover tackle when he was easily stepped. hunt needs to come in to the first 15. At FB or 12.
    It annoys me that we had two backs unutilised on the bench. Fair enough thats injury cover, but why have a specialist winger on the pine?

    • Huw Tindall

      England didn’t exactly put the Pumas to sword either. Front five of England were great…that’s where the Wallabies match will be won/lost. Hope Tui is back!

      • Dud Roodt

        I thought Tui was done for??

        • Huw Tindall

          Let me dream

        • onlinesideline

          he on tour and aiming for scottish match – think MC wants him to expeirence northern tours

      • Simon

        Forwards in general I reckon. Poms will be licking their lips to see Hanigan at 6. We almost penalised ourselves out of the game at the breakdown and we didn’t even compete at most of them.

        Wales really paid for their poor ball handling. Can’t see England giving us that many turnovers.

    • Ed

      Replace one of our world class players with Nick Phipps? Unless Genia is injured, Phipps stays on the bench. (Apologies Adrian, I know you are a fan of Nick)

    • jamie

      I’d say Phipps is best utilized away from the pitch.

  • Dud Roodt

    Couple of points from my POV;

    – every time Hannigan got the ball I was sure he was going to be held up

    – exactly what purpose does Rob Simmons serve? He’s terrifyingly week when taking the ball up and seems to be ‘injured’ every five seconds

    – I was surprised my McMahon’s lack of impact. I really only noticed him in the last 30

    – the welsh defence was really good and will give the other NH teams the blueprint

    – I was very happy with the patience the wallabies showed when being pushed back when on attack. The patience lead to 2 good tries.

    – I thought Foley played quite well.

    – Genia was great.

    – anyone got any clues as to why they were going off at each other at the end?

    • Huw Tindall

      McMahon’s engine makes him a second half specialist. If rugby was a 90 minute game he’d be Maradona…after Hooper who must be the fittest guy in world rugby.

      • onlinesideline

        hoopers fitness is just not human – I just cant imagine what 10 mins of that would do to me. I would be dry reaching.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I wouldnt make five mins. You must be reasonably fit OLSL! ;-)

        • onlinesideline

          very computer fit – can go for hours

        • Brisneyland Local

          I played an old boys game in Singers last year. coughed up two lungs and spewed twice!

        • Hoss

          Was that in the two days leading up too ?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Nah mate, there was no training! I was over there with work. I was there for two weeks I think. One of the lads (a pom) at work ( LArge American Corporation – Client at the time) asked if I played rugby. I said I once did. He stated that their was an old boys match at The Singapore Cricket Club, and they were playing the Singporean Police Force. Low and behold that afternoon in 33 deg and 90% humidity I ran on and played 80 mins. (Thank god for the old boys substitution rule). My wife turned up at about the 30 min mark, and spent the rest of the game laughing at me. At half time she lectured me about how sore I was going to be! I said yeah yeah. But she was right like she always is! Took me a week to recover, and I rolled up to an important client meeting the next day with a huge shiner! fucking hilarious! But christ we drank some serious beers that afternoon! Happy days!

      • Jason

        I actually felt Hooper was pretty lackluster. Not awful but just didn’t do all that much.

        • Braveheart81

          The yellow card was really silly but he topped the tackle count comfortably without missing one, had the most breakdown involvements and easily the most run metres by a forward. I thought he had a really strong game and the yellow card was the only thing that kept him out of being amongst our best couple of players.

        • Jason

          Kerevi had 14 runs for 55 meters ‘eh he was okay’ Hooper has 10 runs for 30 meters he’s a fucking god!
          Yeah, he made 15 tackles that’s very good (although there were quite a few players who had high tackle counts too, Hunt was on for like 25 minutes and made 7), but he gave away 3 penalties including a yellow card, he did run the ball quite a bit, but everyone had a good time running the ball – Koroibete 5 runs 50 meters, Kuridrani 8 for 30, Hodge 5 for 45, even Hanigan had 8 runs (albeit for 5 meters — awkward).

          Relatively speaking Hooper was fine, but he didn’t really stand up to lead his team, and he’s been very average for a while, don’t get me wrong his average is still pretty good, but I just feel like he needs to really have a cracking game soon, he’s been coasting a bit of late.

    • Huw Tindall

      And agree with Genia. The commentators gave him the watch and so do I after a replay. So composed and made the right decision every time. He is back to his best. Conner Murray #1 then Genia #2. Aaron Smith distant #3 right now.

      • Dud Roodt

        Gees the kiwis won’t be happy with that assessment. Don’t worry though, I’ll sign your sawn afterdavided if you need me to

        • Huw Tindall

          There are points on offer for monogamy Dud

        • Tommy Brady

          I think it’s fairly accurate. Aaron Smith’s current form not close to his finest. However, few have clocked more minutes through a very heavy season. I believe it should be factored in.

        • jamie

          Agreed, those marathon sessions in the lavatory would take a huge toll.

        • Tommy Brady

          Genia’s form in 2018 will be interesting following a season of floggings with the Rebels.

        • jamie

          I dunno if that’ll be the case this season. The rebels have quite a good team, let down by their coach and their halves in previous seasons. Genia marshalling the forwards will make a big difference to the Rebs.

        • RJ

          mate have you seen the rebels roster for next year? Could top the conference

      • Seb V

        TJ Perena probably better then all of those 3 ;)

        • jamie

          TJ Paranoia?

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          The Kiwi Phipps!

        • Jason

          Better in physical ability no doubt, talent probably right, but Perenara lacks timing and tempo he get’s the ball out quickly but not when the backline want/need it out. Something Genia and Smith really understand and this is why Genia particularly is playing so well at the moment, he passes it after he’s drawn a defender, if the defenders don’t honour him he snippes and forces them to so next time Foley’s catching the ball so the center has to worry about him too, because the fly half is worried about Genia slipping through.

          Frankly, I think the Aussie centers really didn’t click there were a number of half opportunities that a super team like the Kiwis would have exploited but we weren’t good enough to, although in fairness the Welsh defence was very good, maybe they were only quarter chances.

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        To be honest I would have Murray behind both Genia and Smith.

        Murray is an excellent defender and has a great box kick. However, his passing is too often slow and laboured, and while he is strong through contact for a halfback his acceleration is poor. Further, the laws at the moment have somewhat negated the strength of the box kick as it is just so dangerous to compete in the air for fear of conceding a penalty of yellow card.

        Did anyone watch the New Zealand-France match? The French halfback was incredible. Sublime passing and electric running game. I think the commentators said he was only 19 or something too. He reminded me of like 2010 Genia coming up through the ranks.

        • Patrick

          He was great, hands-down their best player. The front rowers generally crunched their AB counterparts but weren’t present enough elsewhere, but the 9 (Dupont) created basically all their opportunities. It was a very young French team overall and I think that they will have learnt a lot from that match (Teddy Thomas worst technique diving for the line I’ve ever seen in international rugby – plant that outside foot!).

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Yep, Dupont (if that is his name) is a future superstar if he can stay injury free.

        • Jason

          With Murray, I don’t think it’s that his passing is too slow per-se it’s that his passing is poorly timed, he could be a quarter second slower if he would time it with the backline.

          I think a really good example of this is Perenara, his passes are like lightning, he gets to the breakdown like a jackrabbit, but although they are always getting very quick ball the passes aren’t quite timed as well as relatively slower Smight gives them.

      • RedAnt

        Agreed too. Genia also pulled off a few very good and very necessary cover tackles. And he made Foley seem OK. Pretty good effort all round, that.

    • Seb V

      McMahon is saving himself for England ;)
      ‘Foley played well’ his kicking was better by his standards, but still not great. Lots of neutral kicks, but no bad ones so that’s a positive.
      I agree Hanigan and Simmons were weak links, as expected.

      • Brumby Runner

        Just how good could our pack be if they were both replaced permanently?

        • Seb V

          At the moment, probably the same give the replacements are either under-done, injured, or inexperienced. But going forward, given either Higgers, Dempsy, McCalman are fully-fit thats a hell of a difference over Hanigan (not even including the other potential rookies), and the other lock option still up for grabs, someone has got to step up soon. I wonder what Cheika see’s in Simmons over Carter? Surely Carter is the better option given he gives away less penalties and probably has a better work-rate.

        • jamie

          Carter is even more wishy-washy than Simmo.

          Not to mention, wrong colour blue jersey ;-)

      • onlinesideline

        yeah agree – McMahon and Hooper hate the Poms, they really want some revenge in their own back yard. Come to think of it, we need to beat the Scots too, though they are a team thats really hard to dislike. Huge 2 weeks ahead.

      • RJ

        i reckon Tui and Rodda would be the 4 and 6 if fit. Boht playted exceptionally wellin the wallabies this year

    • Hoss

      Not me Dud – but i like it. I reckon its signs of an evolving culture where they all expect more of each other, hold each to account and want to play for 80-odd minutes and put teams to the sword.

      I saw a post match interview with Sanchez at the post-match dinner and he still had that real steely edge about him that i dont recall seeing ever !!

      I paraphrase, but it went something like – happy we won, but it means nothing now as we head to London, do what we do mid-week to prepare to win on the weekend – none of his usual ‘back yourself’ stuff, just determined, steely and ruthless – i must admit, i am very impressed. His game was immense, his passing sharp and into space, his kicking great and his leadership fantastic – all the stuff i knew he could do, but was like spotting Loch Ness, you want to believe, but until you see it…today i saw the complete package and it was a thing of beauty.

      Cheik may have also poured some petrol onto a fire as well – at the presser he quoted a British Journo who quoted ‘ a good club side could beat this Wallabies squad’……………

      Its a slow, lingering burn.

    • Mart

      Hannigan and Simmons are passengers blocking development in those positions

  • Brisneyland Local

    Hello GAGR’s well Brisney’s back. Have just watched the game after a 60km cycle, and thought that I would drift off there now and then, but alas the game kept my interest the whole way through. BL’s points in no particular order:

    – Thanks for the write up Sully, you deserve a sleep in.
    – The new Welsh way of playing was impressive. I love a tough game against the Taf’s and this was no different. The Welsh look like the Wobblies a few months ago, spilling the pill every where. Wonder what the game would have looked like if half of those drops had stuck.
    – Our scrum held well until we were down a player.
    – TPN had a really good game except for the one bad throw in.
    – Genia had a blinder, and his passes were bulet fast and sharp. He had one bad pass, but upon replay just as he was releasing it he took a knock. Good to see him firing again.
    – Hodge really does a whole new dimension to the Wallabies now we have a player that can shoot from over 40m Glad to see that they are using him.
    – I dont see whilst we arent using him for more exits from our 22 though. With a kick like that, hand it to him, and let him go boom.
    – I agree with Dud, that was the quietest game I saw from McMahon in ages.
    – Hanigan shouldnt be in the team. He doesnt offer much.
    – And again in concert with Dud, what did Genia give Foley a verbal serve for? You could see in the post match interview that he was still really pissed about something.

    Overall a most enjoyable game to watch. Engalnd next week!

    • Bernie Chan

      Can’t have any ‘passengers’ in the pack against ENG…Hodge should do all the kicking methinks.
      BTW…was that Nick Berry with the whistle in the Scotland v Samoa game?

      • Brisneyland Local

        HAvnt watched that yet! NExt door neighbour is bringing it over for and single malts this afternoon.

        • Bernie Chan

          What a great way to watch the Scots! The ‘highlights’ suggest it was a cracking game. The Samoa flyhalf (is it Nanai-Williams? Had crappy audio…) is bloody good. Jeez….the Boks were ordinary.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Boks were crap. Not sure their coach will last if they don’t improve. Nanai is a winger in the Chiefs but I agree he played well at 10

        • onlinesideline

          Its amazing considering what talent they have.I thought after watching SR they would be a really formidable team. These guys are in desperate need of a world class coach. The Springbok name had a real aura about them, it just seems to have wilted away.
          Politics – seems to be taking its toll, pretty sad actually. Were one of the worlds great sporting teams.

        • Hoss

          Its a good point – if Jangtes was, umm, lets say. ‘non-African American’ ( i think saying ‘white’ is racists now isnt it?) would he be selected? Imagine a world were someone got selected because of colour rather thann ability, over a person of different colour that would be….hang on, oh wait, i am confused, what point was i making again……?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Sounds like the place where I am working at the moment. All the people for manager roles are gettting picked up because of their minority status. Not their skills qualifications or capability!

        • onlinesideline

          diversity BL diversity

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep thats what some call it. I call it lowering the standard!

        • jamie

          I often wonder if MLK would be happy with what has occurred regarding race relations. Quota’s certainly don’t recognize his dream. Appointment’s based on merit do.

          “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

        • Bernie Chan

          I suspect most ‘neutrals’ would like to see the Boks back to their pomp…rugby is the poorer for their decline.

        • idiot savant

          Well I’ll have reconciliation between a people murdered, raped, incarcerated, abused and the white supremacists who did it to them over the Boks in their pomp anytime. Rugby can just suck it up, and do their bit.

        • Funk

          So now that they are out of power, all the rapes, murders, incarceration, and abuse has stopped???

        • Bernie Chan

          Mate…was not making any statement of political intent…

        • idiot savant

          No worries mate. I apologise if I seemed… sharp. Its a tragic state of affairs but if thats the price of healing in that country, its worth it. Who knows, if it works and there is significant take-up by the black community in 10 years they might be unbeatable

        • Brisneyland Local

          I will let you know what I think. But after a few Laphroaig’s I might not be that articulate!

        • Bernie Chan

          Haha…who is…!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Me generally. You see the alchohol kills off all of my slower moving brain cells, so only the fast ones survive. It is like a herd of Wildebeast. The Lions and cheetahs etc etc only catch the slow ones so the fast ones survive. See thats the way it works in my mind!

    • Brumby Runner

      Not only Genia, but Beale too. Had to be conciliated by Steve Moore. It was to do with Foley’s error (won’t say brainfart until I have a second look at it) in not kicking the ball into touch after the full time siren. Foley appeared to say that he had no cover, but on first viewing I still thought he had sufficient time to get it away.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Hopefully that is all it is. They booth looked really pissed. Genia particularly. and that is not a good sign!

      • Kev

        I thought he did that on purpose. We could not lose at that point so why not have the last say – no mercy.

      • Seb V

        I thought Beale was average.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      It was really good. Both teams pushed hard but the Wallabies really dominated in the forwards and their defence was good. Lots of errors from Wales and they needed a lot more patience. Agree Hanigan just isn’t up to it

      • Brisneyland Local

        Hey KRL. Yeah was enjoyable. The Welsh I thought were right in it. If they hadnt have coughed up the pill so much it might have been a different result.
        On other sites they were whinging about Glenn Jackson. We all know he loves his whistle, but he was very consistent this morning I thought. And our discipline was average, which should concern us for our match against England.

        • I thought Jackson had a decent game tbh. I think he blows the whistle more than perhaps he needs to but he’s not as bad as some and he rarely makes really poor decisions. Sometimes he does, of course, everyone does, but I don’t feel like I look at his matches and come away with a list of howlers from every one, or even a howler from every one.

          Watch the England v Argentina match if you want that… when Brian Moore is saying that the referee has got it wrong – and is unfairly penalising Argentina! – you know it’s bad. In one of them Moore was saying it shouldn’t even be a penalty. The referee went for a yellow, and if he decided it should have been a card, it should have been red. Just bad on so many levels.

          I agree, Wales need to work on their ball retention. I think that’s just a new attacking style and new combinations – players aren’t in quite the places that the passer is expecting and the ball is going to ground.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I thought that while individually the forwards weren’t spectacular, as a group they played well. Personally I’d like to see both Hanigan and Simmons replaced as they are both weak links that the English will exploit. But the pack as a group was good

        • Brisneyland Local

          Simmons confuses me. Sometimes he has some really good games. Generally when under the critiscism pump. Then everyone backs off and he reverts to type.
          Gee I would love another Dan Vickerman or Nathan Sharp to appear!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Yeah it’s frustrating to see him so inconsistent

    • John Tynan

      At the end of the match, both Genia and Beale were into Foley about something. Love it.

  • A big mention to Kurtley Beale for getting involved at scrum time… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6cc7f155809b7bfd5b13b12729f3fbc636b48f2414b040d7b32134c7cb0a27ed.gif

    • Dave Beat

      LOve it – he’s watched so many scrums from the backs and thinks a flanker pushes on the second rower,

      • Brisneyland Local

        Thats why he is a back! ;-)

    • Jason

      Honestly, I really feel like teams should discuss this once and unless you genuinely know what you are doing you should stay the fuck out of the scums. It is more likely to be worse for the scum than it is to give you any help, and you are a man down in the backline.

    • romeo whisky

      It’s more than what Hooper does at scrum time anyway

    • Haz
    • John Tynan

      Yeah, I almost had a little wee I was laughing so hard!

  • onlinesideline

    I actually thought the Welsh looked very threatening a lot of times throughout the match. Probably more from individual skill and pace than moving as a unit, which we did better. But they are fleetfooted, fast and showed us up many times out wide I thought.

    Samu will have to do better than that to be a starter. He was turned over I think 3 times. He has quite a way to go in my book. Hunt needs to start for rest of tour. TK is a beast.

    Dont let Foley kick the ball, ever, anytime, anywhere, even in the local park.

    Man I am over this Simmons bloke – seriously.

    • Seb V

      Agree on Kerevi, surprised how easily he was detained in attack given he is suppose to be such a destructive runner.

    • Adrian

      I think they targeted Kerevi, and he wasn’t as good as I’d hoped,…but wasn’t bad either

  • Hoss

    Maybe its my compalcency as a fan when it comes to us beating Wales, but once the whistle blew i thought we were always in control and did wat we had to do. I thought we were a bit sloppy at times and cruelled ourselves and the score flatterred the Welsh.

    A few random observations.

    – our piggies were terrific
    – The ref Jackson wouldnt know a scrum from a lineout – thought his interpretation at scrumtime was woeful – i saw more Welsh arse than Tom Jones tonite – the amount of angling in from the Welsh tight head was horrific – yet Jackson did sweet FA about it
    – Genia was pure class andthat left foot kick was sublime
    – Foley underplayed his hand well
    – Love Koribete – everything he does has purpose and menace about it.
    – Liked the two big boppers at 12 & 13 and Hodge played mostly at FB
    – KB – is he electric at present or what – when he ran off to score that try i didnt realise he had the pill, i though he was darting off to change shorts
    – Gatland is a graceful as a hungry Rottweiler – what a turd.

    Lastly – i love the northern hemisphere commentators, objective, informative, respectful and to hear the esteem they hold the Wallabies in reminds me how lucky we are to have them and the form their in.

    2017 ‘Not Lose Ratio’ – now at 76.92%’

    Only downside was i had coin on us at 13+ – mongrel; bastard TMO – clearly a knock-on – prick.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Bad luck on the wager Hoss. Fair comments over all. I thought Jackson was bad at scrum time. But at least he was consistently bad. Which is better than wild ass inconsistent in my book. (Romain Poite I am looking at you!)

      • Hoss

        welcome back mate – glad your time in solitary is over. Whole game felt like our boys had another gear if / when needed and the score was closer than the game – not that the Dragons played badly, just we were in control. Although Gatland presser was interesting – maybe he watched a different game to me, understand he has to keep his boys ‘up’ and he answered accordingly, but I thought he was handing out ‘participation badges’ for his boys when really a loss is a loss. Interestingto watch Cheiks conference he mentioned the ref, funny no one has bgged him (yet) for ‘whinging’ – maybe because we won. But he did say 15-3, let alone ‘short-arms’ was difficult to fathom and that the AR’s were teling Jackson all nite re Welsh offending yet nada done about it. Just thought Jackson failed to stamp his authority on the scrums and some of the knock-on’ (or lack thereof) were dubious – mostly to our benefit.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Jackson from my memory was a 5/8 (correct me if I am wrong), so in my opinion (again correct me if i am worng) knows 5/8 of sweet fanny adams about scrums. Christ I was a second rower, and I still know very little about the dark art that is scrummaging. So there fore his referee’ing of scrums will always be hit and miss.
          Overall he was in love with his whistle, but a distinct majority of his calls I thought were fair. Infact I also think we got away with a few forward passes. But hey thats life.
          I didnt mention anything in my piece about Cheika and the referee because at least this time he was respectful and for Cheika understated.
          I am glad to be back chatting with you and the fellow GAGR’s (minus the tools- in my opinion).

    • jamie

      In regards to the commentary, how f*cking good is the Welsh accent? Love it.

      • Hoss

        I could listen to those guys all night – just so refreshing and honest and always reminded of how our players are thought, respected and reveered up north – none of the usual tribal dribble on here. Great coverage (BEINSPORTS)

        • Brumby Runner

          The comments on the game by Googy Harrison were spot on as well. Accurate assessment and well balanced. Reckon you wouldn’t hear such intelligent comment from one Austin Healey.

    • HK Red

      I love Koribete as well, think he’ll be in our back three for a long time, but that was a terrible missed tackle in the second half, when they crossed the line. He completely overshot the bloke and left him for Beale.

  • Adrian

    Good game IMO

    Wales play a great and enthusiastic style.

    We all went ok, including Hanigan and Simmons. I watched for them carefully, and they were in every ruck etc, though clearly not “impact players”.I wouldn’t have both of them in next game though. I wouldn’t have Moore in next game either, but he did orchestrate the time wasting pretty well whilst Hooper was off.

    I thought Kerevi was closely marked, and didn’t get up much speed. I’d put him back on the bench for now. Beale made the defence look nervous when he came up, but it wasn’t that often. I’d start Hunt next week, and I don’t mind if it’s at 12 or 15, as he and Beale will alternate anyway. I think that Eddy Jones won’t like having to deal with Beale’s unpredictability.

    We’ll captained I thought. A Bit+ I’d say, but A+ will be required to beat England.

    • Hoss

      Good points mate – i have been understanding of the Hannigan ‘investment; – but like Dud said – he nearly got held up on every run and the Soap Dodgers will school him next week. Time for Dog to start at 6 and hope Tui fit to start for Simmo. We wont be Ol Blighty in the Piggies with those 2 in the run-on side.

      • Patrick

        I don’t understand it, the investment has been going on for a while now he’s not getting better.

        • Seb V

          How can he possible get better? It’s not his skills or determination that’s the problem. It’s simply his physicality and strength into contact. That can’t be fixed in a few weeks, it’s takes a lot of time to get stronger. I think a full pre-season would have done him better then touring with the wallabies.

        • Patrick

          The part I don’t understand is the investment continuing :)

        • Hoss

          I had advocated him playing around 116-118, but look how 104 / 105 kg centres hit the line. Ned is 110kg and couldnt dent a pavlova. I posted above – the ingredients are there, just needs some work back in SR.

        • Haz

          No way he’s 110? Someone else must have been on the scales with him!

        • Hoss

          I have / had been a fan mate, but its time to send him back and learn some more. I watched it a second time, under a sour-mash haze, but specifically to watch our 6. He is willing, fit and keen and actually looks for plenty of worrk, but his technique – yikes. Too upright in contact and easy to hold up, seems to surrender contact too easily – not through lack of bravery, just – well, technique (compare that to Macca’s leg drive for example) doesnt target the cleanout well – goes in looking like a puppett with no strings – flailing all over the place,

          He is a willing worker, good engine and does have a future, but he needs to learn his craft better elswhere (SR).

          Interesting Hypothetical – i just wonder ‘what if’ Tui, Rodda, Dempsey and co were fit – would he still be a starter.

          The kids got the raw material, just needs refining away from Test footy for a while – thats all.

      • jamie

        “Investing” in Hanigan would be buying him a gym membership, not donating him caps.

    • idiot savant

      I think Gatland is a smart coach. he knew he couldn’t win with a bunch off young debutants who’ve been together a week playing against a side thats beaten the All Blacks, is confident, and been together for 2 months. But rather than play defensive football, he gave them free reign to throw it around and have a crack. That, plus their line speed, and their superior breakdown ability narrowed the margin and gave his young side something to hold on to for the future. The Welsh really had a crack which made It a bit of a scrappy game.

      I didn’t see as much of the alternating first receiver play as against Japan. And the backs in general had less time than against Japan, as you’d expect. But full marks to Gatland and the Welsh, we had to play their game more often than our own.

      • Brumby Runner

        Hodge definitely came into first receiver a number of times in the first half. Didn’t notice that it happened in the second half, but maybe Beale performed that role then. I noticed that the ball made its way wider in the backline when Hodge played the first receiver role.

      • Adrian

        Agree 100% idiot.

        I think we kept a few things in the cupboard to “trick” Eddy, including Beale up close.

        Should be a cracker v England, with Wallabies a real chance

        • idiot savant

          Good point Adrian. I think Eddy was probably holding something back against the Pumas as well. The Poms looked ordinary in attack, but very good in defence.

          I also thought both our starting locks look like they have being playing injured for the last 2 tests. Lets hope Tui can play against England.

  • onlinesideline

    must be a mad mad experience to play out in the middle of these arenas.
    Can you believe how quiet the Irish are when opposition kick for goal. Its incredible, not even a fart can be heard. Not to say there is no farting out on the field but that is a different conversation.

    For more in depth rugby analysis ……

  • McWarren

    Just finished reading the comments below and watched a replay with many of them in mind, my thoughts:

    Hanigan isn’t ready physically for this level. Playing him isn’t helping him.

    Foley I thought had a good game. His short kicking was accurate and dangerous. He had a better 1st half than 2nd.

    I reckon Simmo had a good game. People are very harsh on how they mark him. I saw Colman get driven back on several occasions, when he made ground who was right up his jacksie driving him over the gain line? Simmo. But no one notices things like that. Or the amount of ground he covers. Don’t get me wrong if Arnold is fit I’d start him but Simmo gets unfairly criticised because he does his engine room job very well out of site.

    Kerevi is not living up to my hopes. He just doesn’t have the speed or dynamism against good defence. And his defence is what others suspected, poor.

    I thought front row were hard done by. They did enough on a few occasions I think to remove the q’s from Jackson’s mind.

    Speaking of Jackson I thought he had a good game, scrum time aside.

    I think Hooper was quite and outplayed by his opposite. Not sure who had a go at me last week but whoever it was said Hooper was dominant in defence or something like that. The only dominant tackle I saw from him this morning was when he hit Leigh HP taking a high ball. It only took HP two or three backward steps to regain his balance and reverse the momentum. Hoopers persistence in charging out of the line in defence is going to cost us more tries than it will ever stop. The first Welsh try is a case in point. Not too mention his brain fart penalty to earn a yellow and put his team under immense pressure. People are saying England will be licking there lips at the prospect of Hanigan playing, I think they’ll be just as excited about Hooper, they’ll rag doll him.

    Koroibete is fantastic. He competes for 80 minutes and how nice is it too have genuine pace on the wing.

    Genia was a standout and deserved MOTM.

    McMahon is a 6 or 7 not an 8. And we need an 8. I’d love to see him and McCalman or Mafi at 6 & 8 next week. We’re just to light weight with Hooper and Hanigan playing.

    I thought KB had a mixed game last night. No real flashes of brilliance, particularly in the last 20 when the game opened up. I’d like to see him on the wing next week. Move Hodge to 12 and Hunt to 15.

    The commentators were a breathe of fresh air. I didn’t always agree with them, in particular the comments about NH sides having a faster line speed. But as someone else said they look on the Wallabies in a more positive light than we’re used to, except for Gordon of course.

    The Welsh look like they’ve got some real talent coming through there. I think if they’d held the pill a few more time we would have been a try or two worse off.

    We played okay, rode our luck a bit, showed great composure when our captain dropped his mates in it. With a few changes this side could be a force.

    • Wales played missing a lot of established players and with a new game plan and are really hurting having lost despite that. They have a different style in the back row, so it’s sometimes hard to compare but I would probably pick all three of them ahead of their GAG opponents. OK Faletau is a Lion, McMahon you can argue is playing out of position. Hannigan looked decent in the line out, but that’s not a 6’s role really, it’s a nice bonus. Hooper didn’t look bad per se, but seems to rush out of the line and then that yellow card. His opposite number had a solid game and didn’t make any stupid mistakes.

      I think you have to hold your hands up for Owen Williams in the Wales 12 shirt too. He was outweighed by 40 kg or so by his opposite number and certainly went backwards in the tackle but with him and Biggar you’d have put money on a Foley-Beale open channel there and it just wasn’t.

      The Wallabies were good value for their win but Jones won’t be scared by that performance. Mind you, I also watched the England v Argentina game. If Argentina remembered how to kick, they’d have won it… England were awful. Cheika will have lots of ammunition to work on too.

      • McWarren

        Yeah I thought Wales looked like the team with the higher ceiling. Still a good Wallaby win against a quality Wales team.

        I didn’t see England’s game but I suspect they’ll lift for us and the one game together will have helped. I suspect we’ll cop a flogging from the ref at scrum time and that will bring them into the game.

    • John Tynan

      McWarren, can I just copy and paste? Only thing additional I was going to jot down in random musings was why the hell we defended so narrow?

      • Brumby Runner

        Certainly did, and put a lot of pressure on Koriobete as a result. Seems we have gone back to the patterns being used a couple of years ago when Henry Speight was being left isolated on the wing with two or three runners coming at him. Henry was criticised for back peddling in those circumstances trying to cover multiple runners, while now Koriobete is being criticised by some for rushing up to cut off the backline move early but on occasions leaving the outside runners in the clear.

        It is the defensive structure that should be criticised, not the poor mug left like a shag on a rock facing numerous attackers coming at him.

        • John Tynan

          Structure, and inability to adapt to a Welsh side deliberately playing VERY wide.
          Which was also a musing – how skilful is Faletau? Up there with Reid as a wide ranging/running no. 8 I reckon.

  • Dex Stewart

    From a Welsh perspective: last year I watched the Howley-coached side do nothing original, bring on no new players and learn bugger all. I was at the snooze-fest of the SA game, where a departing Bokke fan apologised to me for the state of his team – and Wales struggled to beat them.

    This game – signs of something different, with Gats back in charge. Ok, result is crap (but fair), but at least they tried to do something creative…might have been better not to have had a resurgent Aussie team up first knock, but shit happens. With a RWC 2 years away, at least we’ve started building for it.

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