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Wallabies grind out win against Georgia

Wallabies grind out win against Georgia

The Wallabies have finished the pool stages at the World Cup with a grinding 27-8 win over Georgia in Shizuoka. It finished up four tries to one with the Wallabies finishing off the game with two late tries to blow out the score and not give a true reflection of how close the game was at times.

The game struggled to reach any heights with handling errors and scrums featuring throughout the game and not allow either team to gain any momentum. The Wallabies struggled to get anything going in attack against a physical defensive game from Georgia as they racked up 170 tackles.

The Match

There was plenty of feeling in the opening ten minutes with some big tackles from both sides setting the tone. The Georgian defence was proving hard to crack for the Wallabies as they struggled to get over the gain line with their ball runners.

The Wallabies suffered an injury blow as Kurtley Beale was forced to leave the field for a HIA on the 14-minute mark after Georgian outside centre Davit Kachrava slipped on the wet turf and cleaned up Beale on the ground.

After back-to-back penalties Australia looked certain to score after the forwards kept it tight but Isi Naisarani knocked it on with the line in sight.

It eventually took 22 minutes for the Wallabies to open the scoring after a Matt Toomua linebreak got the Wallabies on the front foot. Some patient buildup around the rucks edged them closer and Nic White snuck his way under two Georgian defenders on the line to score as the tackle attempted count from Georgia ticked over to 100.

The restart from the Georgians had the Wallabies under pressure with Naisarani unable to secure the kick and then Tolu Latu was pinged for a knock on and then a high tackle in the same passage. This allowed Georgia to get on the board with a simple penalty goal from Soso Matiashvili to make it 7-3.

The weather conditions were always going to make it tough and the Wallabies tactics were having mixed results with the backs trying to get involved where possible to help out as the forwards seemed to be hitting a brick wall against a determined Georgian defensive unit that made it difficult around the rucks for clean ball for Nic White.

But like in their previous games, the high contact problems reared their ugly head again as Isi Naisarani was the latest to cop a yellow for high contact as he attempted to clear out at on attack but ended up connecting with a Georgian player and received a yellow card for his troubles.

Even though they went down to 14 players, the Wallabies extended the lead to seven points after a penalty goal from Matt Toomua to end a tough and physical half.

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The stop/start nature of the game continued early in the second half with a game threatening to break out before handling errors ensured front rowers and scrum experts were the only ones entertained.

The Wallabies were enjoying the share of possession and territory, well in excess of 75% for both but were guilty of trying too much with pushed passes and handling errors stopping them from gaining any momentum.

Just before the 60-minute mark, a piece of individual brilliance from Marika Koroibete down the left wing saw him score to give them some breathing space at 17-3.

But with ten minutes remaining Georgia would have made the Wallabies a bit nervous with a well worked try down the left wing to Alexander Todua to make it 17-8 before late tries from Jack Dempsey from a rolling maul then Will Genia added the icing to the cake with a try right on full time to round the 27-8 win.



The Game Changer

With the game unable to reach any heights of excitement, it was the try from Koroibete around the 60-minute mark that got the Wallabies to a comfortable lead before two late tries sealed the 19 point win.


The G&GR MOTM

In a game where it was tough to stand out, Marika Koroibete gets the nod for his individual try and trying to get involved and help out the pack where he could. Izack Rodda also had a good game with a number of big tackles and some crucial lineout steals.


The Details

Score & Scorers

WALLABIES 27
Tries: White, Koroibete, Dempsey, Genia
Conversions: Toomua 2
Penalties: Toomua
GEORGIA 8
Tries: Todua
Penalties: Matiashvilli

Cards

35 mins – Naisarani (Wallabies) – Yellow

  • Nutta

    Many thanks Steve

    Poor ball security especially as the night wore on. However the platform laid up front especially at scrum time was very positive. Lineout functioned very well also against a well drilled opponent.

    Disappointed to see Georgia give away 5 penalties in their quarter – including 2 blatant spoilers – for zero cards.

    Great to see Poet get a clean shot at 7 and pulled 2 fantastic turnovers in a tournament notable for referee interpretations making pilfering damn near impossible.

    Kevy still not passing and JOC throwing some uncharacteristic poor passes as well.

    My MOTM was Rodda closely followed by Kepu.

    • Steve

      Agreed – The forwards laid a great platform and that’s something to take into the England match.

      Unfortunately ball and ruck security was not improved at all, and discipline still let them down. Even the casual idiot such as myself can see England will plan to starve Australia out of the game at the ruck, and try to push them to error or infringement at the breakdown.

      As the tournament has gone on I feel like the centres combo isn’t all it’s cracked up to be and we are leaving one of our biggest guns in the shed in Kuridrani. I can’t help feeling that a Toomua/K’drani combination would be better.

      But given it’s quite possibly the last game of the Cheika era I’m happy for him to go out like a blind teenager having his first sexual experience: Randomly fumbling around in the dark, trying to grab onto anything that works.

      Finishing the game just as he played it.

      • Parker

        Last two paragraphs are 24 carat gold!

        • Yowie

          Gold. Reminds me of a Billy Connolly joke to the effect of:
          “My first sexual experience was a bit scary, because it was dark….and I was alone.”

        • From NooZealand

          Great, great, great.

      • Custard Taht

        A White, CLL, Toomua, Kuridrani backline with Koribete, DHP, Petaia back 3 is the way to go, with Genia, JOC and Hodge on the bench.

        Yep, it would be the 100th combination picked, but the 9, 10, 12, 13 have all played together at the Brumbies.

        • Keith Butler

          Question mark over Petaia but other than that, a backline that would cause problems.

        • Custard Taht

          I think he has shown enough, especially his speed.

        • Human

          He is a genuine athlete and there are not many in this Wob side. Understandably a bit tentative in going looking for the ball and taking control of the game…that will develop.

        • Custard Taht

          I should add that Cheika should also hand the keys to the assault vehicle over to Berne.

        • Nutta

          For once i found Dribble Mitchell talking a little sense last night on Fox. He said name Pet on the bench so EJ had no chance to nail him down into a targeted plan in the build up. Instead bring him off the bench at an unknown time at an j known position instead. Makes sense.

        • Keith Butler

          Perfect sense.

        • idiot savant

          The strange thing is that they rarely troubled anyone when they all played together at the Brumbies.

        • Custard Taht

          But they were playing under Jake and Larkham, playing Jake Ball, not
          Cheikas. I also doubt that they as a combo could do any worse.

        • Custard Taht

          But they were playing under Jake and Larkham, playing Jake Ball, not
          Cheikas. I also doubt that they as a combo could do any worse.

        • Who?

          Think they beat the Lions, though..? Or was Leali’ifano being rested ahead of his 53 second debut?

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        That 2nd to last paragraph. Friggen gold mate

      • Who?

        Steve, I actually thought our ruck security – especially at the start of the game – was a big step ahead of where it’s been. We had massive possession stats all through the first half, without turning over set piece.
        We did nothing with it – no penetration, no guile – but we held the ball even when I expected to turn it over. Like when Koroibete got the ball out wide just before White’s try. I expected we’d lose the ball in that breakdown, but Pocock and Kerevi busted their backsides and put in an absolutely dominant cleanout, and Pocock secured the next ruck, too.
        .
        You might be right about TK and Toomua – but it needs Cooper at 10 to unlock it (have we seen TK and Toomua at 13 and 12 since that tour?)

  • Big Ted

    Poms will be shaking in their boots!

  • Seb V

    I can see what Turinui meant with JOC running sideways and taking space away. His footwork is no where near as good as it used to be but he keeps trying to step through players. Occassionaly steps into 10 and just shifts the ball sideways. I can’t see what he brings into the 13, especially if his passing game is off. MIght was well chuck in Kuridrani who will run hard and straight and defend twice as good as JOC.

    • Custard Taht

      A fair assessment, but playing Kuridrani at 13 won’t change much, because Kerevi will still be a bottleneck at 12.

      • Gipetto

        By the time Kerevi gets the ball, he has no space and the defence is up on little Jimmy. It not as though there is an inside pass option for Toomua or the possibility that Toomua will wrap around Kerevi to pass wider. The backline just watches Kerevi make contact with three tacklers. If Tupou had been on for longer he might have been able to get an offload because he is an enterprising player, thanks to his earlier days in NZ.

    • Haz

      Got to be honest, I’ve always felt that having To’omua at 12 with Kerevi/Kuridrani at 13 looks more fearsome on paper.

  • Who?

    That was kind of like a VERY heavily opposed training session. Very strong contact at the defensive line, Georgia should be proud. But ultimately, a winning scrum, an absolutely dominant lineout…
    .
    It was very pleasing to see a few more forwards into the breakdown early in the game. The ball might’ve been a bit scrappy, but we had more ball security at the breakdown than we’ve had since Perth.
    .
    Then we just didn’t hold the ball well, identify the space well… I thought the backline improved in structure when Leali’ifano came on.
    .
    Fascinating to see that, on Koroibete’s try, when he’s run past literally every other Wallaby, only one of them shadowed him into the endzone. Why was a THP the only other player in the camera shot? Great work Tupou, terrible everyone else… Thought Tupou and, surprisingly, Simmons added a heap from the bench. Including setting up Genia’s try.

    • In some ways this pool schedule has not helped Australia. In the other games, they’ve looked far better once they’ve kept it tight and played structured rugby. With a good coaching set up, and even with the AssClown, it looked like there was some recognition of that, and a desire to play closer first.

      However, this was Georgia… and while their pack was well monstered in the set piece, their defensive coach is the recently shunted aside England forwards coach. Their whole defensive effort but particular from their pack was well drilled and the intensity and effort was high throughout. Playing loose might not have produced any better results, but playing tight really didn’t produce much either!

      That wasn’t helped by a chronic inability to hold onto the pill. Ok, it hammered down with almost biblical quantities of rain (and tomorrow will be worse in and around Tokyo apparently) and both sides suffered, the quality of the tackles almost certainly contributed too. But jeez it looked bad.

      And that set piece move they pulled off a scrum around the 64th minute… it looked like they were running it on the training paddock at quarter speed. I could see it developing about 3 passes ahead of the actual pass and I suck at these things. The way the Georgians’ had defended I’m kind of surprised there weren’t 15 men hitting the last ball carrier!

      Kind of hard to really judge the back row and back three but I thought Dempsey, Pocock and Naisarani looked solid apart from the ball handling. Given no one could hang on, I’ll give them a solid pass. The back three struggled to get decent ball often and weren’t challenged defensively often. But DHP, Koroibete and Petaia looks like a decent unit with the right sort of mix to me. I’d still start White and Lilo, Genia and Toomua on the bench.

      Overall though… I saw nothing that made me thing England will be worrying. The Wallaby tight five looked solid. But England’s tight five will be several steps up in quality and will believe they are better than the G&G. They might be in for a rude awakening of course, but we’ll see.

      • Jcr

        Agreed , CLL has a bit more to offer than Toomua , although I prefer Toomua’s goal kicking . DHP to start , Dempsey to start and I think that’s as good as Wobblies have got . Cards are going to dictate results at the point end of the tournament. Can’t work out if Cheika is trying to not show many cards or he’s got none .

        • Who?

          Phipps claimed off the end of the broadcast that they have stuff up their sleeve. Given he was in on the training camps, he’d know. But that doesn’t mean it’ll be better…

        • Mica

          He seemed very much just to be towing the line and not surprising since he has very recently been part of the inner sanctum.
          I mean really was he ever going to say anything that could be taken as a negative or was he going to spin it?

      • John Miller

        Good observations EP.

        Though, I’m not sure the backrow had a particularly memorable outing overall.

        Pocock was indeed a monster all over the park.

        Naisarani made plenty of runs and precious metres in tight. Though, his handling and discipline issues were significant and well documented.

        However, I’m constantly surprised by the free pass Jack Dempsey seems to enjoy. Three handling errors / turnovers, 20 metres from 10 runs, zero impact on the ground and negligible effect in the tight clinches against an abrasive, central focused, no name Georgian pack.

        Nothing new here either: same result against an abrasive, central focused, no name Sharks pack in Super Rugby this season.

        Horan even – almost comically – suggested that the grinding, forward dominated nature of the match didn’t suit his loose playing style.

        If JD is playing blindside flanker, let’s hope the English forwards are decidedly, uncharacteristically feather duster-esque in nature next weekend. Otherwise, Dempsey should be wearing pinstripes on Saturday. ‘Cause he was terrible last night.

        • Ron Moloney

          Agree wholeheartedly about Jack Dempsey. He hardly gets involved in the tight exchanges which puts extra pressure on his fellow forwards. I don’t think his “loose playing style” is something the Wallabies need in a potential arm wrestle with England. We will most likely have perpetual motion Captain Hooper playing out wide of the ruck a lot of the time. Hooper has been good over the ball in recent times as well but I can’t recall Dempsey pilfering any pill.

        • Sorry for the late reply, updated my system and my mail and all replies got sorted as spam.

          I’ve given everyone a bit of a pass on poor handling and put it down to the conditions. They do make a difference and when it’s team wide I think it is the conditions. So picking Dempsey out for his poor handling when I’ve said it affected everyone seems churlish.

          While I have my concerns he seemed, to me, to do more throughout the game, than LSL, who looks great against tired opponents, and poor against not-tired ones. Is the “OMG, best blindside in the world!?!” No. Absolutely not. Lets not be silly. Is he better than LSL, I think so. Does he make the balance in the back row look better than the Pooper plus Naisarani – who face it, will be picked despite what happened – I think so. That’s all I’m saying. Not the same as a free pass – best option available, IMO, in that position for the Wallabies at the RWC. Not “our saviour for the next 8 years.|

      • Patrick

        We didn’t actually play very tight. If we had we might have managed to break their defensive structure, but we passed far more often 10+ metres to a flat one-out ball runner than we passed <10m to a moving runner.

        Also, who told Georgia that the game plan for us was to never ever chip kick so they could play really really (really!) flat all day and not worry about chip kicks??

        • I think this is a bit of ambiguous language. From what I saw – and I didn’t record the stats, it’s an impression – the Wallabies were tackled more frequently by first and second defender throughout this match than they were in the first 50-odd minutes of the previous pool matches. To me, that’s playing tighter.

          That doesn’t preclude more long/cut-out passes. In some ways you even hope for them as it’s an indicator that the closer runs are making holes in the defensive line wider out, so you pass quickly to try and exploit it.

          But I agree, their defensive line was flat and fast and could have done with being chipped over too. That’s gone from the repertoire of all the playmakers in Australia apparently… it will hurt against England I suspect.

        • Patrick

          That’s a fair interpretation but to me it seemed that they had just decided not to play more than one-off passes.

          For me, “tight” would be using close-in runners with support to force back the opposition line until the gaps appeared that the centres/outer backs could exploit.

  • Larry Jorgensen

    Just watched the Beale incident again.

    The Georgian player was reckless and more so than some of the “high shots” that have been carded.

    A resulting HIA and player did not return. In comparison to the Argie/England match where Farrell did not go off, one wonders if the method is achieving the intended outcome.

    • While you are, of course, entitled your opinion and I agree it looked bad because it was knees into the head/neck area I think the ref actually got it right.

      For my money the Georgian player ran in, tried to slow down and his feet went out on the wet surface. At that point he fell. He certainly fell into a really bad place but it was an accident rather than trying to dive in knees first, so a penalty is the right call.

      If the citing officer disagrees, knees to the head would be red card territory so we’ll see.

      I think there’s a wider issue though – how do players get hit for a RC offence to the head (which generally require recklessness and a fair degree of danger) and not automatically get taken off for an HIA? I appreciate they have medical staff looking at the collision and so on, but… really?

      • Haz

        As part of the ‘framework’ referees have to decide whether the impact to the head was ‘with significant force’. If that’s their decision and pushes them towards a red card then the receiving player should certainly be forced for a mandatory HIA imo. It just seems the clear and obvious thing for me..

    • Frosty morning

      I don’t think that officials should be looking at the injury outcome of an incident to judge the penalty – in a contact sport like rugby there are too many variables contributing to whether an injury results, including just plain old dumb luck. There are times when a player can be badly hurt in an innocuous/accidental incident where no-one is at fault (eg the Beale incident last night, or Dan Biggar’s head knock the other night from his team-mate). These are the risks of a contact sport and I don’t believe they need any punishment. Conversely there are times when a player is luckily not injured in an incident that was dangerous and irresponsible (eg the Fijian player who was flipped over by the Welshman the other night), and I think the punishment should still be severe regardless of the fact that no injury was suffered.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Not how I saw it. He fell over and it was an accident rather than reckless. I thought it was well adjudicated

      • Who?

        I thought – amazingly – Gauzere had one of the better reffing performances of the tourney last night.

  • LBJ

    That was just horrible. Set-piece strong, but otherwise absolutely no redeeming features.

  • Wonky Donkey

    I saw great D by the Georgians bloody good stuff.

    While the wallabies didnt end with a 60 plus score line. I noticed and adaptive team.
    We came out with short ball 1, 2 of the ruck safe passes. Keeping possession amd respecting the ball. That was pretty good to see because it was playing to the conditions. Though Georgias D was awesome two on one tackles, driving back

    Aussies changed after half time and went to go wide because they werent making gains in the first half. which meant risky passes and more knock-ons.
    Then CLL and willy came on.
    I saw a slight shift to kicking for territory. Which in hind sight made complete sense given the weather.

    But then i began to think, this game had little weight. the outcome wouldnt change the quaterfinals. So… why would you play the tactical safe game when you have the opportunity to test your team. Play the risky wide game in wet so players came learn and adapt?

    I saw an adaptive team strong through the whole 23 testing themselves.

    • Huw Tindall

      I’m with you WD. Forwards were great with Naisarani the only one having a dud game. Set piece out standing and dominated Georgia at what is their strength.

      Haven’t seen more knock ons in a while but there was a literal storm a few miles off.

      Played tempo ball in hand stuff in atrocious conditions so should be a cinch in the dry.

      Second half upped the tactics and should have won by more.

      Georgia should have been kept scoreless but the ref let the big knock on by their 9 off the line-out go.

      Pick and stick in the backs. White and CLL to start as they are the tough and steady combination. Genia and Toomua at 50 when the game opens up and rush D is slowing.

      There will be one unlucky back rower next week. Only four of Poey, Hooper, Naisarani, LSL and Dempsey will be there.

    • Nutta

      Largely I agree in that is it were a serious game we would have seen much more tactical kicking to play the game in the G qtr. As it was they played much more ball in hand which I feel must have been under instructions for combination practice. Didn’t really have the desired impact though I think.

      The interesting bit for me was HairBun in lock. Good scrum, he’s a known good lineout operator, it didn’t seem to impact his around-the-ground (no different from usual) and it allowed us to play a proper backrower. I think his 6 experiment may be over.

      • Patrick

        Long passes to flat one out runners has nothing to do with combinations, though.

        • Nutta

          Yep. There is that.

  • Darrin Briggs

    As no one has put their hands up I would throw all guns at England. Here is a left field suggestion play Rodda at 6 Coleman and Arnold at 4&5. Poey at 8.Kuridrani needs to start in the centres. DHP, Koroibete and Petaia back three. We won’t be able to out play England so let’s go with total physicality hold the ball and smash them. We have nothing to lose.

    • Haz

      I think Jones would love that. I don’t see any team that Cheika can put out being able to dominant this England team.

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Wow! Well that was pretty crap. While it’s great everyone giving Georgia some credit I can’t help feeling really sad that the drop in expectations of the Wallabies are so low that people feel this was a good result. Looking back to previous RWC I think that firstly any of those teams would have won by 30 points regardless of the weather and secondly a game like that would have seen a flogging from the press and supporters.

    I can’t see England being worried about much after watching the team bumble their way through the pool matches that’s for sure.

    • Custard Taht

      In our defence, previous Wallaby teams could have just as easily lost that game in those conditions.

      But I feel as though Cheika has lost the playing group and they just going through the motions. The constant changes, setting players up to fail, poor game plan, if I was a Wallaby, I’d be mind fucked too.

      After the world cup, Cheika should go to Vegas as a magician. Forget Cris Angel, Mindfreak, he is Mick Cheika, Mindfuck.

      • Yowie

        Yeah, but imagine the press conference after the magic show where Assistant Sharon, the rabbit, the audience volunteers and the lighting techies would all get bitched-about for the magic tricks that didn’t work.

        • Custard Taht

          He would have to take Larkham as assistant for at least one season, otherwise he would have no scapegoat.

          The after show presser would be a corker. The dressing room would need a camera to.

        • Yowie

          A Houdini-like posthumous legend might begin this way:-

          Yeah-nah for my next trick, my lovely assistant Bernard will very accurately shoot this apple off my head with this crossbow ya-know-what-I-mean

        • Custard Taht

          With a
          “magic is going soft, if a crossbow bolt to the head is now a penalty, then I have never played magic. But what would I know, I just stand on a stage. Maybe the lights going off at the end was a sign.”

        • Custard Taht

          Fuck, imagine how close Foley would have to be to achieve that!

      • Brisneyland Local

        Cheika the Mind fucking ass clown!

        • Custard Taht

          I must say, you have been unusually quite this RWC!

        • Brisneyland Local

          CT, yes unfortunately travelling way toooooooo much. Have been watching the games. But then have been in places where I have had very limited internet connection. However I have started writing a eulogy to the Ass Clown from his time as coach.

        • Custard Taht

          Gotta hate when life gets in the way! At least you have been able to watch the games.

          I look forward to reading this eulogy!

        • Brisneyland Local

          It is a work in progress at the moment.
          My favourite game of the whole RWC is Fiji vs Wales, followed by Japan vs Ireland. They have both reminded why I love the game so much. Mind you I think the Fijians got dudded by the referump.

        • Custard Taht

          Overall it has been a damn good tournament, that the officials have tried hard to diminish.

          Both those games were great. I hope the Jap v Scot gand goes ahead, it to should be a better.

        • Brisneyland Local

          So do I. I think, if it goes ahead it will be a blinder. I am really looking forward to it. I am even going to stay up and watch it, even though I have a 0345am alarm for a 0515 flight tmw morning. It will be worth the pain.

        • Custard Taht

          Sleep on the plane…..though the Canada v Namibia has been canned.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah just saw that. So hope Scotland Japan goes ahead.

        • Custard Taht

          It is on like donkey Kong……But unless Channel 10 decide to show it, I will be watching highlights.

        • Brisneyland Local

          KAyo mate. It has cost me $25 for the RWC. It is the Netflix of Sport.

        • Custard Taht

          Currently without internet, would have to rely on the phone data. Apparently it takes a month to get something done about a shit NBN line.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Lets not start on the NBN. Best to walk down the pub then.

        • From NooZealand
        • Patrick

          Can’t wait to read that

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          That’ll be fun to read

        • Brisneyland Local

          Will have to get the lawyers to read it first. ;-)

        • Yowie

          Haha, to avoid defamation claims the finished text might have more black redacted bits than a CIA freedom-of-information response.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Oh no. I will definitely publish un-redacted. I will use the truth defence.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Good move mate

        • From NooZealand

          Cheika the Mind fucking ass.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        I do wonder if he’s lost the group. The constant change around and results can’t endear him to the players

        • Custard Taht

          You would have to think it is taking its toll. You have probably experienced similar during your service. I remember having a new Platoon Commander, who was incapable of taking advice, and his shit was all over the place. No consistency, constantly shifting blame, putting the rest of the platoon in shitty situations. Just like Cheika, his leadership group were a bunch of yes men, and those who weren’t in his click (all but half a dozen) had piss poor morale.
          In the end myself and one other senior digger told him and the Sgt to get fucked and basically led the rest of the platoon In a jack up. How we avoided gaol fuck knows, but the Lt and Sgt were sacked.

        • Brisneyland Local

          The end of the world cup will be the enema through the Wallabies that is required.

        • Yowie

          That has echoes of the Brumbies / David Nucifora thing.
          I wonder what factors tip you and the Brumbies into taking command but the current Wallabies group holding back. Perhaps just one or two too many Cheika guys from the Tahs to allow for a workable coup?

        • Custard Taht

          It really is a difficult situation. Eventually, the two of us, who although both Privates, were the only two who had operational deployments under our belt, gave up on the chain of command, and snapped.

          In all fairness, we got damn lucky. I had served with a warrant officer from another company, in my 1st posting. He had the ear of the battalion commander, who luckily, listened, and took on onboard what he had to say. If not for him, I dare say we would have been in military gaol for at least 28 days.

          I can say this, a lot of soldiers came to us voicing there complaints, but when the shit hit the fan, we were out in front on our own. It wasn’t till they knew they wouldn’t get in trouble did the speak.

          The reality was, the fear of military discipline provided too strong a deterrent for the others to speak and stand up.

          My mate and I had been in the Army long enough to know better, and to know that that shit was not good enough or acceptable (Probably just like the senior brumbies). There are many current wallabies who probably don’t know any better.

          There are a lot of players with years left in the national setup and probably fear the repercussions. And unlike us/Brumbies, the senior members now, as you suggested, are probably part of the click, so unlikely to rock the boat.

          I think that is the difference.

          Obviously I am not part of the inner sanctum, and the players might not have any problem with the coaching, coaches and leadership. But I can see a lot similarities between Cheika and those around him, and that platoon commander and his cronies.

        • Yowie

          Cheers for posting all that. It’s really interesting how the pressure valve gets released (or not) when the normal leadership roles are not functioning. Not to the same extreme at all, but in the white-collar world I’ve seen how a large group bears the strain of shit leadership and tries to work around it (or moves on).
          In terms of the Wallabies, you mention junior players and “in” Waratahs. The other demographic might be veterans who have either come in from well paid overseas gigs or are expecting to go to such gigs shortly. They probably have nothing to prove or gain by starting a coup (with all the high-stakes uncertainty) just to try to go out of the World Cup at a later stage than QF.

        • Custard Taht

          All good, I have been involved in my fair share of shit, and more than once have had run ins with the higher ranks.

          It would be really interesting to observe the dynamics inside camp Wallaby.

        • Yowie

          This sounds like a BS story but it isn’t. One of the juniors at my work is mates with one of the younger wallabies from their club rugby days. Once the WC is over I’m going to do my best to try to find out (2nd hand) what the dynamic was actually like around the Cheika leadership Charlie Foxtrot. Eg did they take him at face value and see no issues? did they all know it was a bit f*cked and just go with it? Work around it? etc.

        • From NooZealand

          In due time, I shall remind you. Just kidding, but it would be very interesting if you share in this forum.

        • Yowie

          Yeah, I’ll see what I can do. In terms of betraying any confidence, my self-serving rationale will be:-
          1. I’m not naming the player
          2. it will be in the post-Cheika era anyway (I f*cking hope);
          3. my track record on this forum is predominantly shit-talking, so the information can be readily dismissed as “some internet shit-talker claiming to work with a mate of a Wallaby”.

        • From NooZealand

          I would totally agree on 1. and 2. That is the ethical thing to do. As for 3. I will accept your comments on yourself unedited. Cheerio

        • Custard Taht

          Well hopefully you can get some Intel!

          If not, we can just get Mrs Petaia on to it.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          You were very lucky. Chances are the command team knew it as well but needed something to get it out there.

        • Custard Taht

          Yeah, Battalion HQ were probably aware, Company HQ were every bit a part of the problem.
          About 6 months later on my second deployment on temporary duty with a different battalion, bumped into the land commander and RSM Army . We got chatting about the company my mate and I were poached from. They had heard “things” about that company, and asked for my opinion.
          The RSM at the end says “Those cunts should be strapped to the tail rotor of a Blackhawk and flogged to death”. Land commander just thanked me for my candour and said this is disturbing.

          Two weeks later I was told my temporary detachment just became permanent as my old unit is being disbanded.

    • Twoilms

      Very few people pay enough attention to have expectations

  • Hoss

    Morning all,

    Last night really affirmed for me our ability to be world champions.

    The skill on display, the tactics, the clarity, cohesiveness that a 22nd different starting 9/10 combo in the last 50 tests brings, the hands, the tactical kicking, the ruck work, the tackling technique, the discipline, the selections all really shon through.

    Yep, world champion outfit this one.

    Now off to the back yard, a flock of pigs fly in for breakfast each morning and get ancy if I don’t have food out.

    • Keith Butler

      But rugby is a funny old game and pigs sometimes do fly.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Yep with you mate. Lots of rose tinted glasses here today I think

    • Custard Taht

      Hoss, you have come too far to let the reality sink in now……

    • Custard Taht

      I will say this though, after seeing the U20s continually improve and watching the Wallabies go backwards………I am now starting to think that perhaps the wrong coach was sacked.

    • Keith Butler

      I have sussed your’s and other GAGRs cunning plan. Lull me and other SDs into a false sense of security and then give us a good rooting on Saturday.

      • Hoss

        Sprung. 4 years and 22 different 9/10 combos in the making. Cheika has played the ‘long con’….

        It’ll be the biggest stewards inquiry since Fine Cotton if we do roll your mob.

        • Yowie

          I’ll start work on a script to pitch to the owners of the “Oceans 11″ heist movie franchise: “Cheika’s 23″.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Ass Clowns 9/10

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Just listened to him talk about the English game. He really is an embarrassment

        • Yowie

          If you (with NZ teams/coaches to treat as your own) are embarrassed, what about the rest of us!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Mate Australia is my second team and it hurts

        • Custard Taht

          Surely it still can’t hurt? The hurt started in the back half of Deans’ tenure, then the link period started to rekindle the hope, then the Cheika era ripped the hope away. For me the hurt stopped at the end of last season. Now all that is left is delusional hope, resignation and an eye to the future and a new hope.

        • Yowie

          I watched a Test today
          To see if I still feel
          I focus on the pain
          The only thing that’s real

          What have I become
          My sweetest friend
          Every good No 10 I know
          Goes away in the end
          And you could have it all
          My game plan of dirt
          I will talk the referees down
          I will make you hurt

        • onlinesideline

          thats video clip has death all over it – too much

        • Brisneyland Local

          Nope it is just numbness. We know the dawn will come. There is just one more game. I dont care if we lose in the new era, as long as the is a purpose of rebuilding.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Mate I almost snorted my wine reading that. I get where you’re coming from. All I’ve got is rock on November and the changes it will bring

        • Brisneyland Local

          One more loss to tolerate.

        • Custard Taht

          Is Cheika friends with Darren Weir? If so, then the big is definitely up!

      • Brisneyland Local

        NO cunning plan. The Ass clown isnt bright enough to enter into a little game of subterfuge. If you goes blow this game you will derided for decades.

  • Crescent

    Maybe I am a harsh judge – it that was a fail for me, even allowing for weather and a solid Georgian performance, I felt it was well below par. Unless we are trying to lull the Poms in with ineptitude and suddenly play a blinder (which I highly doubt) – we are going to be thoroughly pantsed in the quarter finals.

    My issues with that performance are best summarised as “too old, too slow, too stupid” (with apologies to Roy & HG). In no particular order – when your substitute prop is chasing kicks, running support lines and making good metres out wide – you have a problem. Kicks in play to players, not grass – you have a problem. Getting skinned out wide with the most basic draw and pass – you have a problem. Hot on attack throwing a no look pass to no one – you get the picture.

    My positives – Tupou has put his hand up for a start. Great meat and potatoes as well as bringing the gravy. Toomua for mine showed his versatility and some smarts, but I still prefer CLL outside White to start. Dempsey again showed some power with ball in hand and vastly improved accuracy at the breakdown. Poey looks back to his happy place.

    I know in the post match interviews it was suggested they aren’t tipping the hand to England, but the last three and a half years tell the real story. We are even crap at mind games. Eddie won’t be losing any sleep about the Wallabies plans – his biggest issue will be ensuring England don’t get ahead of themselves and secure the win before thinking about the semi finals.

  • Human

    It was a Friday night…a wet and windy Friday night. The Wallaby EBA does not allow for Friday night rugby. Friday night is for spending with family and friends; perhaps including some rum and a short kip in the car…but not rugby. We ought to be grateful that there were 23 blokes in gold. Yes the ball handling was crap; the intensity was crap; the support runners were busy elsewhere; etc. One wonders why we waste time and money creating these super grippy, custom fitted jerseys and shorts….they don’t damned well work!!! Hang on, are they meant to be super grippy or super slippery when wet?

  • Arty

    Not a lot of talk about Pocock. More than likely that Hooper will start with 4 big men to combat England. Pocock from the bench.

  • Yowie

    haha “It’s not where you sit that makes you ignorant mate”

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s. It is raining in Brisbane like it is raining in Nipponville. And it is cold. BL’s points in random order:
    – I am more on the negative than the positive. That was a pretty shite performance. Our rugby smarts are just not there.
    – Congrats to Georgia. They played hard. Their forwards are monsters. They are on the up. As are a lot of the minnows which is great to see.
    – Apparently our game plan is not adaptable, well until at least the second half.
    – Poey was a monster and is our Captain and starting 7!
    – The complications in the back line is problematic. It was confusing. Having Two Cows, CLL, and JOC on simultaneously created a lack of certainty in the playing making. Too many cooks spoiling the broth.
    – I cant believe Simmons come on and played really well.
    – Genia, CLL, and particularly Tupou had great games.
    – England are going to do things to us you wouldn’t do to a farm animal.
    The big positive, we only have one game left of the Cheika Era!

    • Yowie

      Working title to the tell-all Cheika autobiography due out in time for Christmas shopping:

      Rugby Australia Didn’t Give Me Enough Time, Resources and Freedom to do it my Way and the Refs were Against us Too

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Hahahaha so true

    • Patrick

      - Apparently our game plan is not adaptable, well until at least the second half.

      What? Long passes to flat one-out runners is a game plan now?

      • Brisneyland Local

        Allegedly your honour!

  • Pedro

    I thought the Georgians were lucky that offsides were turned off for much of the game. The Wallabies didn’t execute but if you look at the stats other than points it was a very dominant display. I think it was a tactically poor decision to only kick eight times in the wet but maybe it was part of a wider strategy. That is, to get the most out of the match. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b4844a96be673b020dbb6c554fa7c9fb395bcc8c50c8d72a0ebb5597211f8c00.jpg

    • Mishad

      I rarely comment even though I read this forum and comments through everyday. And was about to say something that nobody mentioned except yourself – kicking has its place. Especially when running into their rush defence time and time and time again without penetration or finding any weakness. Use your brain and initiative and pop a couple over their heads, make em turn and run, pay for their aggression. Have them in two minds about what we are going to do. Seemed until CLL came on I don’t recall one kick, but I recall our players running into theirs alot and not getting much done.

      I just hope it’s al part of the plan to lull England into a false sense of security into our 1 dimensional attack, then unleash our accurate and devastating kicking game when they least expect it. Although I doubt we have one.

      I dont want a jake ball fest either but seems there is no thought hapening on the field…just mindless drilled tactics one after the other because ‘they told us to’.

      The stats tell a telling tale. We ran a shitload of metres, had shit load of possession, but it was a massive expense of energy and effort which resulted in not that many points. That is dumb rugby to me. Rugby league has more strategy than the game wallabies are trying to play.

      • From NooZealand

        “but seems there is no thought happening on the field…just mindless drilled tactics one after the other because ‘they told us to’.” You nailed it. There is no instinctive play or response to how the game is developing.

      • Patrick

        I agree I decided after 10 minutes that we must have decided not to chip in any circumstances whatsoever, and also told the Georgians.

    • Graeme

      Do you have a legend for that. From HE down I couldn’t work out what the initials meant.

      • Pedro

        Haha, it’s from the Australian I think. I couldn’t find one at the time. I was thinking the same thing, but I was too embarrassed to ask.

      • Mica

        I’ll have a go. :)
        PC – penalties conceded
        FKC – free kicks conceded
        SW – scrums wins
        LOW – line out wins
        LOWAT – line out wins against throw
        LONS – line out not straight (I remember this one from Latu…. ;) )

    • Mica

      I note our missed tackle percentage (compared to overall tackles) is higher than Georgia.
      A bit of a worry considering the small number of overall tackles.

      • Pedro

        I mean, it’s not great but 87% vs 85% (or 13% vs 15% missed) isn’t a significant difference considering the disparity in sample size.

        • Mica

          I got Aus at 82% meaning there missing pretty much every 5th tackle without having to do much defensive work over the game. I would expect much better from such a low overall tackle count as defensively they should be pretty fresh.

        • Pedro

          39/46 * 100 = 84.8%
          219/251 * 100 = 87.3%

          I don’t know how you got 82%.

          My point isn’t that the lower number of tackles should result in a lower percentage made, my point is that statistical fluctuations are greater within smaller datasets. That means statistically speaking, the difference in those percentages is likely not significant.

        • Mica

          I took the tackle figure to be tackles attempted with 7 missed, but you’re probably right in that it’s successful tackles.

        • Pedro

          Yeah, that’s another reason why I think our tackle completion is unreliable. While Australia were delivering one out phases all the way up the field the Georgian’s efforts with the ball were percentage-wise from less predictable situations. I think with so few tackles though you could probably just review all of Georgia’s time with the ball and assess the wallabies defense qualitatively with greater accuracy than with the raw stats.

        • Mica

          Agreed – with something like Rugby, the context of the missed tackle (the why rather than the what) can be much more important than just a raw number. Missing a tackle in a two on one or overlap situation or as the last line of defence at fullback is very different from missing a tackle whilst numbered up in phase play.

  • Bernie Chan

    Faark…the Scots are in danger of taking the “Biggest Whiner” title off Cheika..
    Back to the rugger….after that performance v Georgia I’m not confident about our chances v The Soap Dodgers.
    Why run the ball out of our 22 in the rain.
    Again no exit strategy or tactical kicking..

    • Custard Taht

      All this talk of Typhoon’s is giving me the Hagibis!

      • Mishad

        It’ll all blow over soon…

    • Brisneyland Local

      Yeah but unlike Cheika the Haggis eaters have a genuine reason to be pissed off. Two world cups in a row.

      • Patrick

        What are they pissed off about? the possible cancellation (of a match they’ll lose) or something else?

        • Brisneyland Local

          The article I have read stated that if the match is cancelled both teams got split points. That will knock Scotland out. THey have to beat Japan to make it through to the finals.

        • Patrick

          Yes. I just wasn’t sure if it was for that or if they had some new thing :)

        • Brisneyland Local

          NAh I think it is for that. I think they feel that they would have been jipped two world cups in a row. Both of the losses coming from officials rather than their rugby. In 2015 we certainly got the rub.

    • Patrick

      You were confident before??

      • Bernie Chan

        Gawd no…perhaps I should have said “even less confident than before….”. The pessimism is driving me to drink…
        Would be terrible to lose to an Eddie Jones coached team…

  • I Should be Coach

    1 more week. Then no Ass Clown, Foley or Beale ever in Gold.

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