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Wallabies Player Ratings – Samoa 2019

Wallabies Player Ratings – Samoa 2019

1. James Slipper

Made some tackles, got around the ground well. Replaced at 50 mins. 5

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2. Jordan Uelese

8 tackles, 11 carries, but conceded 2 turnovers. Was part of the better scrum. 6

3. Sekope Kepu

Returned a solid performance, making 7 tackles in the process. Was part of the better, first half scrum. 6

4. Rob Simmons

Lineout was superb, and despite doing his thing of not being a physical presence, he did what he was meant to do. Win lineouts. Also wore a matching scrum cap with C0leman which made things hard.  7

5. Adam Coleman

Part of a lineout that dominated the Samoans but didn’t dominate at ruck time – Samoa made 10 turnovers. Made 6/7 tackles but there wasn’t as much bashing as you’d like or need from the non-Simmons lock. 6

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6. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto

His stats are solid. 11 carries for 45 metres, 2 defenders beaten, 7/7 tackles made. He didn’t boss the game, but a solid showing nevertheless. 7

7. David Pocock (c)

O captain my captain. Passed the first test, which was not to get injured. Passed the second test, which was to not chain himself to a mining truck in the Parramatta area. Didn’t make a Twiggy Forrest-net-worth of turnovers, as he usually does, but did alter his game after it appeared Samoa kept him out of the rucks. Did well in his distributor role, marshalling the troops and making those tackles.  7

8. Jack Dempsey

Killed it,  despite coming back from injury. Offered a great presence from the back of the scrum, and shored up the depth at no. 8.  7

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9. Will Genia

After some great performances, Genia looked below-par against Samoa. His dilly-dallying at the ruck was shown up by Nick Phipps, who showed him up when he came on. 5

10. Bernard Foley

If his confidence was cheese, it’d be swiss. Looks shot, and his lack of competition for the past four years has done him a disservice. Had a barry on conversions, getting 2 from 6.  Made about double the passes Toomua did, more carries, and the same clean breaks. However he looked almost half the value. 4

11. Marika Koroibete

Inspired by his binge of pingball halls, Koroibete stamped himself on this game. Running, tackling, charging, he did it all. Made 136 metres. 8 – G&GR MOTM

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12. Matt Toomua

In his best display this year, Toomua probed, prodded and tackled the Samoans, mainly acting as first receiver in most cases. On top of an easy try, also showed himself to be the better flyhalf over Foley in the match. He made 16 passes. 2 clean breaks and 10 carries.  7


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13. Adam Ashley Cooper

Praised constantly as “Australia’s best defensive organiser” by Morgan Turinui, AAC showed his nous. He missed 3 of his 5 tackles but you can chalk that up to him filling holes in the defence or chasing down Samoans. 7


14. Dane Haylett Petty

A decent return for the winger who was dumped after dropping his spaghetti in South Africa. Defence and kicking isn’t a worry, but his pace will be. Also scored an easy try.  6

15. Tom Banks

Given a chance to prove the selectors wrong, Banks didn’t take it. Offered plenty in defence and kicks – except for one touch finder that went dead. His running and running metres – 99, the 2nd best for the Wallabies – were promising. 5

Finishers

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16. Tatafu Polota-Nau

Came on at 64th minute, and really didn’t do much. 5

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17. Scott Sio

Solid effort, the scrum collapse came more so on the tight side. 5

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18. Taniela Tupou

Didn’t have a great game. Scrum suffered after he came on, and he only did one trademark boomfa – against an otherwise weak defence. 4

19. Luke Jones

Cut from the RWC squad, went someway to justify his non-selection. 5

20.Rob Valentini

Came on for 7 minutes on debut. No Rating

21. Liam Wright

Compared to Jones, who had 3 more minutes compared to Wright’s 22, impacted the game. Made some strong runs, making 55m of 3 carries (compare Jones’ 8m for 6) and one very impressive dummy. 6

22. Nick Phipps

The best of the subs, Phipps upped the tempo and passed the ball – unlike Genia’s foot-tapping ruck spectacle. Threw a beautiful inside ball to for Banks. 7

23. James O’Connor

Given a mighty 9 minutes.  No Rating

THE PATENTED G&GR RATINGS GUIDE:

10 – A legendary performance to go down in the history books
9 – Outstanding performance: Man of the match shoo-in
8 – Excellent all-round game
7 – Good game with a few sparkles
6 – Solid performance
5 – Average – ho hum
4 – Below par
3 – Had a bad game
2 – Tell your story walking pal
1 – A complete joke

Player Ratings – Australia vs Ireland

  • Adrian

    Agree

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Adrian, I’ve missed you. Are you ok mate?

      • Adrian

        All good KRL.

        I’ll probably come here more from now on.

        As an indication of why I haven’t been around much, I should say that I haven’t been around the old political sites I used to frequent either. Once they became dominated by crude “crash out” Beexiteers I lost interest.

        With Rugby, I’m fine about you and guys like BL who have never liked the Cheikas regime, but I get sick of uninformed newbies who just like negativity for negativity’s sake. I’m staggered by how little some

        The 3 selectors are there, the new attack coach is there, the team has been selected. Guys like McCaffrey, Gill and Banks didn’t get selected, and others like Petaia, Uelese and CLL did. I picked 27 of the 31 in MY team, and 29 in the team I thought they’d pick. I’m happy with that!

        The team showed what they can do when they are on song and confirmed what they do when they are not. Apart from 90s-00s this has always been the way, and I’ve been following for 55 years.

        I’m certainly interested in this WC, but my interest is in the team we have, not the team that should have been.

        I reckon we are a chance using the high risk high reward strategy we use, because we don’t have the players to play any other way. Put another way, 15 Jonno Lance type players would try hard and limit the damage, but not have any chance of winning
        ….and yes someone here is liable to condescendingly explain to me that teams don’t have 15 x 5/8!

        Anyway, bring it on.

        My immediate thoughts are about whether or not we do minor tweaks to protect a couple of guys v Fiji, and I’m still thinking about it.

        I’ll send BL a similar post

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Good to hear mate. I’m not confident and although there have been some good changes with the new selectors there are still a couple of fish hooks that have potential to cause problems. I guess we’ll see in a couple of weeks mate

    • Brisneyland Local

      PLease say you are coming back?

      • Adrian

        All good BL, I’m back… today anyway.

        I’ll probably come here more from now on.

        As an indication of why I haven’t been around much, I should say that I haven’t been around the old political sites I used to frequent either. Once they became dominated by crude “crash out” Beexiteers I lost interest.

        With Rugby, I’m fine about you and guys like KRL who have never liked the Cheikas regime, but I get sick of uninformed newbies who just like negativity for negativity’s sake. I’m staggered by how little some know about Rugby.

        The 3 selectors are there, the new attack coach is there, the team has been selected. Guys like McCaffrey, Gill and Banks didn’t get selected, and others like Petaia, Uelese and CLL did. I picked 27 of the 31 in MY team, and 29 in the team I thought they’d pick. I’m happy with that!

        The team showed what they can do when they are on song and confirmed what they do when they are not. Apart from 90s-00s this has always been the way, and I’ve been following for 55 years.

        I’m certainly interested in this WC, but my interest is in the team we have, not the team that should have been.

        I reckon we are a chance using the high risk high reward strategy we use, because we don’t have the players to play any other way. Put another way, 15 Jonno Lance type players would try hard and limit the damage, but not have any chance of winning
        ….and yes someone here is liable to condescendingly explain to me that teams don’t have 15 x 5/8!

        Anyway, bring it on.

        My immediate thoughts are about whether or not we do minor tweaks to protect a couple of guys v Fiji, and I’m still thinking about it.

        I’ll send KRL a similar post

        • Brisneyland Local

          No worries mate. Have missed your company here online. Fiji worries me. As we saw with Samoa The Wallas tried for a little whilst to play with the broken play that PI nations love so must and it cost us. Fiji are stronger fitter and faster than Samoa, and have great Kiwi coach. McKee. From what my sources in the Fiji camp are telling me, is that he has finally convinced the Fijians that scrums and Line outs are attacking platforms. And they are working hard on them.
          We need Pocock to slow the play down so he has to start.
          Either way I can wait.

  • Jason

    Probably generous to give Foley a 4, he was pretty poor.

    But seriously, I personally didn’t see ANYTHING redeeming about AAC, would have been REALLY good to see a real winger in the squad instead of 45 year old AAC.

    Also

    Player Ratings – Australia vs Ireland

    • Max Graham

      I actually find it hard to believe that there are people out there that don’t rate AAC. He’s one of the most consistent rugby players I can think of.

      • Bobas

        He’s way less consistent than Simmo

      • Jason

        Maybe consistently average — he was quiet poor for the Waratahs this year and didn’t prove himself any more against Fiji.

        • Bobas

          Are you from the future?

        • Who?

          Oh dear – he’s playing against Fiji!!! How on earth did that happen?! He should be our fifth choice 13 behind JOC, TK, Kerevi and Petaia – did Cheika run the whole team up Mt Fuji (talking from Jason’s future perspective here) non-stop with a DJ pushing them the whole week leading up to the game?!
          :-P

        • Jason

          Yeah, haven’t you heard, Cheika picked AAC in at 23, Samu went down early and we had AAC for 75 min he was a massive liability in defence and was chased down after JO’C put him in a massive hole. He also did his hammie so maybe he’s out for the tournament and we can see him replaced.

          Alternatively sorry I ment Samoa. Jumping the gun…

        • Max Graham

          By the end of the season he was anything but average in my opinion. I would have taken Speight and Naivulu ahead of him, but he’s still good enough in my book to wear gold.

      • idiot savant

        AAC has been an outstanding player. I can see he still adds value in defensive organising and off field advice. He made a good job of scoring a try from Toomua’s grubber. But he is slowing. Reece burnt him like he was standing still in Auckland. I think he will offer value against the slower British sides but he could be a risk against Fiji, SA and the ABs.

  • Max Graham

    Fox Sports gave Foley a 6 – apparently his off night with the boot cost him a higher score. If one day Foley scores a try, doesn’t miss too many tackles and kicks most of his goals, I wager we’ll see Fox Sports’ first ever 11 out of 10 rating.

  • Mart

    Valentini grew a neck

    • Hoss

      Your right – Valentini looks pale, maybe he was crook for the match.

      • Bobas

        Job Valentini needs to go back to NRC and start enjoying his rugby more.

  • Got to wander why Banks didn’t get at least a 6 if not more. 2nd most metres run, solid in defence and good kicking except for one that was wayward. You’re going to tell me that doesn’t count as at least a solid performance from your 15?

    I know he’s not in the squad, and I know Samoa are not Wales, The Nearlies, the Bokke and the like. But compared to the last outing, I’d like to be able to pick him over Beale please… I’ll take one bad kick over however many dropped high balls it was every day.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Bit of an anti-Banks theme here although TBF I didn’t rate his game that high but then the only comparison was Koroibete in attack because no one else did much either

      • I don’t really think, despite what I wrote, he deserves more than a 6. It just seems odd, particularly when you read the summary of his game, not to see him getting a 6 which is a solid performance.

        And while it was only Samoa, when 9 and 10 are having a craptastic day (5 and 4 feels about right there), it’s pretty hard for the higher numbers to shine that bright.

    • Seb V

      I’m a huge vocal supporter of Banks, but he really failed to inject himself in this game. Looked hesitant with ball in hand at times. Think he dropped a couple and really didn’t offer much in attack beside that inside run off the Phipps ball. I was really disappointed in his performance.

      • Fair enough.

        I thought he looked solid, not spectacular but solid, and while I’m inclined to agree about the weakness on attack I’m also inclined to cut him a bit of slack – I thought the whole back line looked poor and I’m putting that down to a lacklustre performance at 9 and 10. It becomes pretty hard for any of the outside backs to do really well in those circumstances, but especially a youngster who is still finding his feet at test level.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Pretty fair ratings overall I must say. I know JOC was only on for a short period, but I thought he had some really good interactions there and deft touches of the ball. Wish he had had some more game time.

  • Gipetto

    If Bernaaard was rubbish, who was organising the play. It must have been Genia and yet he is rated worse than Phipps?

    • Seb V

      Toomua was clearly doing most of the playmaking.

  • Brumby Runner

    Nick, I generally agree with your ratings, and I know we all see players in different lights, but there are three or four this week that I really have a problem with.

    First up, a 5 for Banks. As Eloise quite eloquently describes, he actually excelled in his running game, he was solid in other aspects. That is very much reflected in your own description of his game, and that isn’t a 5 rating in anybody’s language.

    AAC is over-rated. He is slow and hardly threatening in attack. Misses too many of his tackles, two of which on the weekend were simple head on, one on one, misses of his man. Should be nowhere near the Wallabies at this stage of his career.

    In describing Liam Wright’s game, you missed a turnover won as well. He did everything a No 7 is meant to do, and was actually one of the better all round games at 7 for the Wallabies in a long, long time, albeit for his limited 25 minutes on the ground. He was easily a 7 at No 7.

    The locks! Coleman gets marked down apparently for wearing a similar head gear to Simmons and for not doing the hard stuff of two locks to make up for Simmons “not being a physical presence”. I think you should re-read exactly what you’ve written about the two locks and just have a look at the inconsistency in the ratings. Simmons never earns more than a 5 because he hasn’t got an assertive bone in his body. And Coleman cannot be marked down for not being easily distinguished from his powder puff partner and not putting in an extra effort to compensate for the continual weaknesses of Simmons at this level.

    • Brendan Hume

      It’s an interesting observation of the 7’s. I’d have rathered the Wallabies utilise a very good all round 7 as the norm, than the specialist freaks we have gone with over the past five or six years. Those players add a lot to different game plans but we haven’t had the consistency of game plan to allow them to shine. Hooper is a very good footy player but doesn’t offer the presence on the ball that a good 7 usually provides, Pocock is an animal over the ball but lacks a bit with his linking and carries. Gill, McMahon and other players of that ilk that have a good defensive game, are strong on the ball, can offer a lineout option and can distribute the pill are a better fit for the Wallabies current squad. Hopefully Wright and some of the other 7’s coming through get a bit more of an opportunity into the future.

      • Geoffro

        cant recall any on my list of great openside flankers being much of a lineout option.A player of the quality of Pocock who has been picked out of position many times because his around ability ??

    • UTG

      If you drop a ball 5m out from the try line and kick the ball dead on a regulation penalty kick, like Banks did, then you’re not going to score well. His run metres are also inflated, like all fullbacks, because of kick returns. Beale clocked up 80 run metres against the ABs at Eden Park.

      • Seb V

        Well said UTG, even as a Brumbies fan and Banks supporter I can acknowledge he had an average game.

  • Bobas

    Should have used a picture of Jack Maddox for Valentini.

    • juswal

      Stop it

    • disqus_NMX

      I don’t get the joke… what did I miss?

  • Who?

    Passed the second test, which was to not chain himself to a mining truck in the Parramatta area.

    Nick, I didn’t realise you were from the far east, who consider Parramatta to be in the outback, somewhere near Roy Hill. :-P
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    If missing 66% of your kicks gives a player a 4, then a 3 must be a horrible night!
    .
    Not sure how the second most run metres and competence in all fields playing behind a halves pairing that didn’t perform is considered not grabbing your opportunity.
    .
    Not sure what you were watching at the scrum. Tupou had one dud scrum – his first. After that, he was strong. All the issues were on the Slipper/Sio side, after PAE came onto the field. PAE, who played THP. Sio wasn’t a 5 – Slipper was a 5, maybe a 6, but was done over when tired by a fresh PAE. Sio then replaced him, and was constantly outwitted by PAE in the scrum. So I don’t see why he gets a 5, yet Tupou is marked down to a 4 for Sio’s poor scrummaging..?

    • Keith Butler

      PAE another player that maybe RA should have done more to keep here.

    • UTG

      As I said to BR above, run metres are a misleading stat for fullbacks given they get the benefits of kick returns to pump up their numbers. KB had 80 run metres against the ABs at Eden Park.

      Banks also made two pretty bad errors–dropping the ball right near line after we’d been hot on attack for five minutes and kicking it dead–and was outplayed by the other members of the back three.

      It was Samoa, he had the opportunity to put on a big performance and show everyone he’d been hardly done by. Unfortunately, he was only solid-average. I have no doubt he’ll play tests down the track but I saw nothing to suggest he’d make a hell of a lot of difference at this WC.

      • Who?

        Run metres are increased relative to others because of kick returns, but that also applies to Koroibete and DHP. He outran DHP and outkicked Koroibete.
        Koroibete did well with run metres because he went looking for work, picking and running off the side of the ruck. Banks did well because he managed to get Genia and Phipps to feed him inside balls at the base of the ruck, which he loves, which directly set up the last try and setup other attacking raids.
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        The kick that went dead? I was actually pretty happy with that – it was karma, it was a rubbish, unfair penalty. I’d rather have someone kick it a bit long than the normal alternative (i.e. Foley failing to find touch).
        .
        Dropping the ball on the line? It was a pretty tough pop that he dropped, I’ve seen it argued that he was looking to secure the breakdown. He’s hardly the first to have dropped a ball like that this year, but at least he was trailing with some depth (unlike Hodge who, like so many this year, runs far too flat, and in running flat dropped a ball behind himself which allowed Mo’unga to open the floodgates in Eden Park).
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        Regardless, the wording doesn’t match the number.

        • UTG

          I can’t really really find an excuse for dropping the ball near the line, I and many others criticised DHP for it when he got a wobbly bounce in SA so I’ll have to stand by it here. Ditto for missing the touch-finder.

          I don’t think the bulk of Banks run metres came from running in the tight. It’s certainly a great part of his game but he had 99 run metres primarily from kick returns and a couple of half breaks on the outside (as did a lot of players).

          Most people were underwhelmed by his performance(including Brumbies fans) and that’s why he’s been given a five or average score. Looking back his numbers look ok but again I’d say this is primarily because of the over inflated run metres stat and the fact you don’t see his glaring errors.

        • Who?

          I think I’m ok for the DHP bounce – I don’t think I was too harsh on him, so I think I’ve got wriggle room here. :-)
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          There’s only two errors in 80 minutes from Banks. We’re criticising him for one missed kick, Foley missed four shots at goal and was only a point lower. The dropped ball, these things happen. Sio got a five and got monstered at every scrum. AAC got 7, did pretty well nothing in attack (fell on the ball once in the right spot), missed 60% of his mere 5 attempts (because he was chasing Samoans or missing tackles where he was filling a gap – no one else gets that excuse)…
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          I’m not saying Banks was a standout, but he was more solid than most, didn’t make many errors, and filled his role well.

        • UTG

          Oh no doubt those two are way too high. I think most people were so impressed AAC made some tackles and wasn’t completely outplayed they forgot about the tackles he did miss.

  • dsb

    Foley was missing most of the night holding up out the back and arriving at the breakdown late pretending to be a forward. Thought Genia and Toomua did well without him.

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