Wallabies v. Springboks Instareview

Brumby Jack September 30, 2012 86

No GravatarThe Wallabies’ winless streak at Loftus continued when they went down 31-8 to a rampaging Springboks side.

Their injury curse struck again and combined with little ball meant they were in for a long night as they watched Springboks’ winger Bryan Habana score a hat-trick on the night.

The match didn’t start well for the Wallabies with Scott Higginbotham ruled out during the warm-up with a back injury that meant a reshuffle to the reserve bench with Mike Harris coming into the 22.

There were some early nerves for the kickers as both Berrick Barnes and Johan Goosen missed their opening shots at penalty goal in the first eight minutes.

New flyhalf Kurtley Beale looked impressive and was starting to get front-foot ball, but the Wallabies weren’t able to capitalise on their field position and were unable to get inside South Africa’s 22.

It was a scoreless opening 20 minutes but then the Springboks opened the scoring in the 22nd minute with a nicely worked try to fullback Zane Kirchner in the right corner after declining the earlier shot at penalty.

That try sparked the home side into action and they went close to scoring again when Johan Goosen fooled everyone and made a linebreak that looked a certain try. Alain Rolland referred it to the TMO and it was decided that it was somehow a ‘double movement’.

They weren’t to be denied, however, as the Boks started to dominate the possession leaving the Wallabies to make plenty of tackles. Winger Bryan Habana finished a move that he started to put the Boks out to a lead of 14 to nil.

It took until the 35th minute for the Wallabies to get on the board with Beale taking over the kicking duties from Berrick Barnes to reduce the margin to 11.

Just before the break the South Africans were awarded a dubious penalty with Dom Shipperley alleged to have bloked Kirchner contesting a kick, but the Wallabies breathed a sigh of relief as Pienaaar’s kick hit the upright.

In a huge blow just on half time, Adam Ashley-Cooper was knocked out attempting to stop Kirchner from adding to the home side’s score. His commitment saved the day but he was stretchered from the field which saw Mike Harris come on along side Anthony Faingaa who was already filling in for Berrick Barnes after coming on earlier for Pat McCabe who made a visit to the blood bin.

As the half progressed it was becoming increasingly difficult for both sides to finish off a scrum with Rolland struggling to get both side to co operate. He was having a poor game all round with many infringements allowed to go unpunished especially around the ruck.

The start of the second half saw the Wallabies unfortunately blow a great chance to score their opening try as halfback Nick Phipps knocked on at the back of a ruck to the relief of the South Africans.

The next chance the Wallabies had with the ball ended disastrously with Dom Shipperley getting caught on his own 22 right in front and from the resulting penalty the Boks received yet another penalty and the double whammy yellow card to James Slipper who had just come on.

The man advantage proved too much for the Wallabies and Francois Louw rolled off the rolling maul and dived over to increase the lead to 16 points after 55 minutes.

Things were going from bad to worse as the medical staff were starting to earn their pay as Samo left the field with a shoulder problem to add to injury concerns to Digby Ioane’s knee and Tatafu Polota-Nau looking groggy after another head knock.

Bryan Habana then rubbed salt into the wound and once again finished off a move he started after a quick lineout on his own side of halfway and ran virtually untouched under the posts to all but seal the game with 20 minutes remaining.

The Wallabies then showed they would fight to the end by scoring their first try of the night to Mike Harris in the right corner after nice lead up work from Kurtley Beale who was one of the best in a beaten side.

The game then decended into farcical scenes with 10 minutes remaining with the Wallabies only left with 14 men after the increasing injury toll and substitution count had been exhausted. A discussion between Rolland and the Wallabies’ bench meant that Saia Faingaa could not come on and it was left to Benn Robinson, who had also been replaced earlier, to throw the ball into the lineout.

Habana then secured his hat-trick with only minutes remaining to cap a great night for himself.

The Wallabies will now head to Argentina with much to think about, particularly who is left to play as #TeamRehab is expected to grow significantly.

Springboks 31 – Habana 3, Kirchner, Louw tries; Pienaar 3 cons def Wallabies 8 – Harris try; Beale pen goal.

Discussion »

  • Dave

    Wow, just, wow. I simply have no words.

    • Dave

      Well cold light of day and all that has help me find some – words that is.

      This game was about the breakdown and the injuries (the ones before the game and during). We got beaten up at the breakdown. Plain and simple. Which in turn put pressure on us to try desperate things and in the process disregard personal well-being. The AAC tackle being the stand out example of this. I don’t think any one has or could doubt his commitment to the green and gold. I just wish it would manifest itself in something other than a sickening concussion. Desperation can cause injuries. And we are a very desperate team.

      Which brings me to the main point. Sometimes commitment born of this desperation is not enough. It definitely wasn’t last night otherwise the score would have been different – maybe the result would have been the same but the disparity not so great. What was needed last night were cool heads, strong leadership and a return to the basics. The fact that we seemingly panicked so easily speaks to our low confidence and lack of leadership on the park due to injuries.
      While injuries aren’t and shouldn’t be the excuse for last night they are a strong factor that can’t be ignored.

      Our work at the breakdown was sub-par. Hooper, along with most forwards, never stop trying but weren’t effectual. Gill wasn’t given enough of a chance to showcase his skills in this area. Dennis and Samo went missing and never asserted influence. We will never be considered a dominant team deserving of our number 2 position let alone our goal of number 1 if we don’t learn to counter forward oriented game plans. We aren’t a forward oriented team and we are no longer a running team. Which begs the question, how do we define ourselves, an injured team? We are without identity at the moment.

      Our back-line didn’t fire either. Defensively woeful. However Beale played well all things considered. Phipps was okay but some fundamental errors killed momentum and I believe cost us points and a chance to get back into the game. Shipperly was ok. And Harris scoring a well worked try. But blood bins and injuries to the rest of the backline killed any continuity and confidence.

      Our front row, well . . . Ben Robinson both as a starter and a super sub. Both roles seem to be a beyond him at the moment. Subbing him after 30mins is a dumb, transparent, cynical tactic that came back to bite Deans, Blades and the team as a hole. It put them under unnecessary pressure. I mention Blades as it wasn’t a tactic the WBs employed until he came on board if I recall. Just dumb, dumb, dumb. Slipper was harshly done by in my view on a few calls – maybe this will change on second viewing – yes I’m going to watch it again. Alexander not really good enough. Having said all that though our scrum didn’t do too badly. And our lineouts ok. I thought the short arm for us pushing off the mark was bullshit as well. Pienaar had plenty of time to put it in. But we had the dominant scrum so he didn’t and they were rewarded.

      All in all we were ham strung by the lack of experience left in “Team rehab”. The talent that we miss is one thing but what we needed last night was experience and leadership. Sharpie can only do so much.

      I also have to mention morale and of QC. While I think QC’s carry on would have influenced the team’s confidence to some degree the overall affect would have been minimal. Certainly not enough to have caused such a subpar performance that was on display last night.

      It’s a new low point in Australian rugby of which we have had too many. Party due to poor preparedness and low confidence, but mostly due to injuries. The bright side is that it can only get better from here. Oh wait, next week our “C” team will be playing the Argies at home, right. Oh no . . .

      • bludge

        sharpe was awful absolutely shite. i saw him make maybe 1m in one carry, every other he was crabbed or driven back. as soon as he was the last old head in the last 10 he started fluffing simple passes too. retire already, injuries or no.

        • Brumby Runner

          Spot on. And don’t forget the number of times he turned the ball over when tackled.

        • Dave

          I was talking more about his leadership role than his game – which I agree, he had a bad one.

  • OppO

    A new low for Australian Rugby…

  • Ali

    They sucked. Nothing more to say.

  • TC63

    scoreline very flattering. wallabies belted. injury toll 6+

    boks had three tries disallowed, missed 4 penalties and 2 conversions.

    speechless.

  • Romeo Whiskey

    Didn’t see Beale fitting into the flyhalf position, with poor decision making IMHO. Had a much better game in the last 30 when it was pretty much all over.

    I’m sure that the ARU will use the injury as an excuse for Deans.

    Time to go. Time for Link for the Northern hemisphere end of season tour

  • Luke

    I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to disagree; Australia had more possession and territory (slightly) but were just ineffective in contact and at the breakdown.
    Just a sad state of affairs for Australian rugby when the massive number of injuries compounded this.

    • bill

      Yup, boks were just better. c*nts.

  • Fletch

    Pressed screen – was about to write something but keep staring at screen- still staring – still staring – nope- no words

  • Fletch

    One thing- crap on you want I still say the boys showed guts

  • Fletch

    I think kurtley beak is sublime – better than quade – if ppl cant see that he is a born first five I’d be amazed – those kicks he did where ridiculous – just had nightmare thought – if deans goes will cooper stay?

  • Fletch 2

    I think kurtley beak is sublime – better than quade – if ppl cant see that he is a born first five I’d be amazed – those kicks he did where ridiculous – just had nightmare thought – if deans goes will cooper stay?

  • skyblue

    No cooper was just finding an excuse to leave rugby and go and play with his bro.sbw..the money boys,no pride or, passion just a full wallett.

    • Dave

      He earns more in rugby union then he ever could in league you idiot…

      • Fletch

        This is all that’s needed Dave :

        “He earns more in rugby union than he ever could in league”

        • Dave

          I stand by it Fletch. To call out a player who couldn’t and didn’t play on a review of a game he didn’t play in with a statement that is blatantly false is idiotic. As long as someone is saying idiotic things I think it is fair enough to call them an idiot.

        • http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/ Matt Rowley

          I’m with Fletch – no need for the insults

      • skyblue

        Ummmm he’s already got a full piggy bank.now he just wants to play with his mate sbw.is that clearer for you dave…no pride or passion in the “yellow jersey” okay..you drip.he’l probly end up in france.good on him!

      • skyblue

        Ummmm he’s already got a full piggy bank.now he just wants to play with his mate sbw.is that clearer for you dave…no pride or passion in the “yellow jersey” okay..you drip.he’l probly end up in france.good on him!.

      • skyblue

        Ummmm he’s already got a full piggy bank.now he just wants to play with his mate sbw.is that clearer for you dave…no pride or passion in the “yellow jersey” okay..you drip.he’l probly end up in france.good on him!..

  • Dovester

    This is a farce. The ARU need to come up with some kind of a plan to lessen the physical pressures on these blokes, their bodies clearly are not up to a season like this, we’re dropping like flies. Up next to springboks and ab’s, we have no where near as big a playing pool.

    It was a poor performance, but when the backlines being shuffled every ten minutes for injuries what do you expect? Either our conditionings not up to scratch or these blokes are simply playing too much rugby.

    • Fletch

      We are dropping like flies because we are always get smashed up front.Lets be honest here – a forward pack needs three things.

      1. Guts – Yes – they have that.
      2. Gorillas who scare ppl – No we dont
      3. A coach who knows how to make 8 forwards 1 pack who move forward in a steam train like fashion – No we dont have that either.

      Until we get all 3 we will continue to get injured like we have every BLOODY SEASON Deans has coached us.

      But I would also like to say something in defence of the wallabies players. I firmly believe that there are alot of injuries because these guys are putting themselves on the line in a brave and totally selfless way. Take AAC tackle for instance – absolute committment and guts..more guts than I could ever muster.

      We need new selectors and a new coach but there is PLENTY of HEART in these guys…Still proud of the GOLD jersey !

      • Blinky Bill of Bellingen

        Well said Fletch.

        Let’s never stop supporting our team.

      • jezacbhs

        I agree to some extent but this chat around reminds me of something. I’m an NZ cricket fan and we always talk about how our bowlers are more prone to injuries than other teams. It’s not true, it’s just that we have a limited pool of players that we can’t afford any injuries to just stay competitive.

        Now the Wallabies are more competitive than the Black Caps of course, but Australian rugby just has such a small pool of players.

        With the seasons being so long and brutal now, there will always be times when clumps of injuries occur. NZ got it during the last WC (Richie, Williams, Carter, Cruden, Slade – im probably missing some) but we just had the depth to sustain it.

  • spectator

    my one and a half cents:

    No surprise that Beale held his own.

    Beale with a more classical kind of second ( Barnes or Harris) and McCabe as 13 ( he is more a classical kind of 13 than 12 to me ) might give a cohesion to the whole backline that could be a significant gain.

    The Wallabie game needs to be lead to some degree by a more old school kind of back attack to some degree against the other top teams in particular, as scratching out the games against these teams is losing the initiative somewhat.

    The Wallabies have the talent, but it’s more in an hit and run attack way than a methodical squeeze the opposition into a tight corner type of pattern that’s needed.

    Tougher game for sure, but i do reckon the un-expected grubbing & chipping of first half in previous game, ended up working in their favour when they had the win against the Boks, & i thought the backline in general was starting to look like it was building into a cohesion in that game, which after the assault it has come of from against the A.B.s previous game – which was no small feat.

    The backline had more opportunities against the Pumas because they are not as good, not necessarily because it was an improvement from the previous Boks game before.

    I had thought having Beale inside two centre type players might not make difference in this regard – but each game is a new opportunity for things to work and you hope for the best.

  • No Bryce = Good Rugby

    Too kind to Beale, who was as guilty as the rest of taking wrong-headed decisions. But he’s our best option until QC pulls his head in or JOC recovers from his latest haircut.

    We have bugger-all depth, despite having 5 super teams – I’m talking about real, test-class depth. Too many imposters getting test shirts. We shouldn’t have more than 3 super teams, but that’s a debate for another day.

    The real problem last night was (still) the apparent absence of any discernable game plan, let alone a plan B or C. Time for John O’No to break out the red pants, I think. As long as it’s not to install Nucci.

  • richard

    Smashed up front – sound familiar – and could have lost by a more.

    You’re forward pack is weak, and oz won’t improve until that is fixed up

    The long list of injuries during the game didn’t help, nor the ongoing “quade” saga during the week!

  • BK

    The defensive effort was really poor. Far too much standing back and waiting for the attack to come to them, your dead in the water once that happens.

    On attack one of earlier posters nailed it, no discernable game plan. The support for the tackled player was way too slow, general lack of physicality, christ I could go on but it’s just too depressing.

    • Bay35Pablo

      “no discernible game plan”?

      Arent we just playing what’s in front of us? Isn’t that the game plan? :)

      To the extent we have one, and I think we do because occasionally the players do seem to play to one ( or in coopers case apparently be stifled by one), it clearly isn’t working or the right one for the team.

  • Garry

    Is there any place to watch the replay on free to air, or just foxtel?

    I did a search on ch9′s online TV schedule for the word “wallabies”, and the response was

    “no match for that term, did you mean ‘wales’ ? ”

    Laughable or …?

    • baldwid

      really crushes me to say this mate – dont bother!! Its a very sad day when your natural, honest reaction to watching our national team in a game i love is tempered with such indifference.

      on a side note – really says alot about the game when your hear Greg Clark after the game exasperate!! says it all really!!

    • Trys NOT Kicks

      Its on youtube from polyrugger. But mate it is a heartbreaker.

  • AJ

    I’m still completely stunned. I have never been a fair-weather supporter, but the last 10 minutes were so painful to watch I wanted to turn the TV off.

    Absolutely gutted for the WB. The Boks deserved the win without question, but you wouldn’t wish that injury toll on your worst enemy. All the best to AAC and co on a speedy recovery.

    Many have complained about a lack of depth in the team. Have we been watching the same matches? The start XV today was mostly second- and third-string players. Depending on how the injuries pan out, the likely starting line-up against Argentina will contain two first-choice backs (Digby & Beale) from our “best” (injury-free) XV, and maybe 1-2 forwards (Robinson and Samo; Sharpe doesn’t count since he’s retiring). The fact that we have made it this far through the RC on fumes is testament to our depth. Depth only goes so far though…

  • S Paddy

    I love this site. It frustrates me however the lack of insight into our problem which hasn’t changed in ten years. Every second blog relates to five eights, back play, and coaching. Until we develop a tight five that can dominate other RC teams we are nowhere. The game in simplicity has not changed in 150 years. The big boppers in positions 1-5 need to be intimadatory, strong, tough, and iron-willed. We have not had a unit of ’5′ for a long time that displays these traits. Loose forwards and inside backs who are flat flooted or going backwardsdon’t have a hope in hell. To win SA in Africa you HAVE to do what the ABs do an match or exceed their intensity. Our quality/speed of ball relates solely to our effort in winning contact situations. We do not win these collisions enough in test matches. I urge everyone to do this – 1. Watch replays of this weeks test matches again. 2. Watch solely an Australian tight forward for the whole game (and nothing else) and then watch his corresponding number in the All Blacks in the second game. 3. You will be educated I guarantee when you compare their work rates.

    • coodabeenawesome

      Hear, Hear! Spot on the money. Oz has never valued the tight 5. Could not have articulated it better myself!
      How many comments on here are talking about the tight 5 though?

    • Bay35Pablo

      No, credit where’s it’s due. It was pointed out we got slapped at the breakdown. While that’s more than just the tight 5, it is a big part of that.

      We need more big boppers & mongrels. The constant complaint. When did we last have 2 locks that you wouldn’t want to face? Harrison & vickers?

      • S Paddy

        Someone find me some rope…..when I go on and on and on and on about tight forwards it does not mean scrums and lineouts only. It means collisions, work rates, tackles, and ball carrying and passing. I think your attitude highlights what is wrong with the national team. We need a strong tight 5 that are complete footballers. NZ don’t have any problem……and i hate @#$%^& saying that.

        • Bay35Pablo

          S Paddy,

          Um, did I refer to the breakdown, or did I refer to the breakdown? I’ll go get some extra rope for you, but I think it’s the eyesight that’s going.

          I didn’t take your reference to mean lineouts and scrums. Our forwards aren’t manning up in rucks. That’s our big problem. Set piece is so so, but you can win those all you want it doesn’t matter if they blast us off the ball at the ruck.

  • Ricco

    When “Team Rehab” would have beaten the starting Wallabies prior to this game and now there is greater team selection headaches for Team Rehab than the wallabies, you cant expect and demand a win on rugby’s toughest stage. You cannot lay blame on anyone. Regardless of game plan, team selection you can not judge the ARU or Deans on these last 2 games. He needs a near clean sweep on Spring Tour to remain.

    • johnny-boy

      FFS – lets just be done with it and appoint Deans coach of the Walalbies for life. He’s a kiwi who’s played rugby so he must be a demi god. Australians are second class citizens. At least thats what the ARU obviously thinks.

      The biggest problem the ARU has got is that the Boks have finally got a coach who appears to have half a brain, who despite a nervous shaky coaching start, is starting to find his feet. This may end up as a positive for Australian rugby as we no longer have PDV generously masking our shortcomings.
      How long before the ARU or one of their sycophantic journalists start suggesting we should be grateful being ranked No.3.?

      • D.

        Is that you Quade?

        • sarina

          Haha i rekn hes quade too

  • Robson

    Painful stuff and almost as painful to watch as what was being endured on the field. What gives with all these injuries?

    AAC’s injury, however, was just bad technique. He made a big (and try saving tackle), but head in front of the ball is not where it is meant to be. Unfortunate and sad.

    • Canuckruck

      More like last ditch effort and complete commitment. I think AAC knows how to tackle…..

      • Brumby Jack

        Of course he does.

        Have we forgotten his tackling 2 guys at once effort in Perth?

      • bill

        From memory he wasn’t in a position to make a safe tackle in terms of his head placement, unfortunately it didn’t work out ok.

        • Johnny-boy

          B ….., he was. It was just a plain simple stupid thing to do to put your head in that position. I’ve done it myself. No questioning his courage.

    • Trys NOT Kicks

      I reckon he did it deliberately -his head certainly broke Kirchner’s momentum. True commitment

  • ‘Boutbloodytime

    Wow…the Boks showed a lot of commitment at the breakdown & Habana had a blinder…our guys fronted & got hit by a steamroller…no doubting the ticker the Wallabies showed…

    Bloody ugly head knock AAC took…wish all the guys well for a swift recovery & hopefully nothing too serious.

    Deans couldn’t give the coaching job away even if he wanted to right now…wouldn’t surprise me if all the aspiring Wallabies coaches are going to ground for the next 3 months or so.

    Relative to other sides, we seem to suffer a heck of a lot more serious, potentially career ending injuries than other sides…I can’t think of any other sides that have more than 5 or 6 key players out injured…

    My question, which I’ve had on my mind for several months now is: Are we lacking conditioning, is it a technical issue, insufficient stretching pre/post training to reduce injury risk and improve flexibility, or is it too much rugby (or is it, as QC alludes to, a lack of facilities…I can’t imagine Australia being so off the pace in this area).

    Considering the Kiwis & Boks play as many tests as we do each season, it doesn’t appear to be the number of games, although a week in week out physical hammering obviously takes a huge toll on the body.

    Someone suggested above that the forwards not working as a cohesive unit is part of the problem, but we have a lot more going on than forwards getting injured, at both international & state level…

    It’s definitely another thing to add to the ever lengthening list of ‘Things to address to sort out Australian Rugby’…

    I really feel for the Wallabies…must be a battered & demoralised bunch right now…If you pull out a win next week fellas, it will be bloody close to a miracle.

    You got clobbered today, but the pride is unquestionably there, with loads of men putting their bodies on the line time & again for the gold jersey…which is admirable, but a whole lot more is needed than huge hearts & commitment…

    I just hope that game was the catalyst for change, but I fear we’ve got to stumble at least one more time before the coaching staff & the higher ups are given a proper ‘please explain’…meanwhile, the players prepare for another physical belting next weekend…

    • http://sethjnz sethjnz

      Just looking at the last 12 months – the wallabies played that crazy mid-week game against Scotland, and did that mini-tour after the WC. I would say they play too much rugby, and more compared to the ABs and Springboks. Next year isn’t going to be much better because of the Lions tour.

      The facilities thing doesn’t hold much weight; if Quade was right then why did the Reds have so many injuries the year despite their ‘facilities’?

      All the super rugby teams have had a lot of injuries. I think it’s just too much rugby all around. It’s all in pursuit of the mighty dollar – just so men like Nasser can make more for the ‘brands’ they represent.

    • johnny-boy

      Re conditioning most of the team are Tahs. What do you expect ? Hello ….

  • Nick_Brisbane

    The Boks looked fitter. Do the Wallabies have a strength and conditioning coach?

    Re injury rehabilitation and management, maybe Cooper has a point

  • Red Kev

    Robbie Deans can’t even count to 7. His determination to play the fat, unfir, underperforming Benn Robinson just blew up in his face. Hopefully that is the tagline to the farce of his Wallaby coaching career.

    • Fletch

      If it wasnt Im afraid next week will be.This is going to be painful but maybe Keating is right.

      Maybe this is the hiding we have to have.

  • campo

    S Paddy you are right on paper but the truth is we have never had a forward pack that has dominated or intimidated. Despite this we have won 2 world cups and are ranked 2 in the world.If we can achieve a level of parity we go well hence the level of commentary on this site about loose forwards and our backline,which have always been our point of difference.

    The Boks in Pretoria grow 6 inches and although it was cringey to watch factor in about 10 first choice players injured and a NUMPTY coach,were always going to struggle.

    This ongoing Benn Robinson thing,replaced once again after 30 mins exploded in Robbies face today and he really should be sacked based on this alone.Appalling,amateurish,clueless.

    And a backline consisting of McCabe(LIonhearted as he is),Harris and Finger made me cry,especially when Benny Tapuai was there and not even on the bench. Really should be first picked and a backline built around him, he is class,not had a 12 in australia like him since Horan(and Corno-should have played 100 tests)

    I really wish we had a Kieran Reid too..

    • S Paddy

      See here we go again. We have won two world cups…our coach is crap……the boks grow two inches in Pretoria. The argies grow a foot in La Plata and were ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED by a AB team with has a mighty tight forward group. Please don’t look to other crap like all we need is parity…no we don’t, we need to dominate and intimidate. Just like the AB’s did. The poor old argies had jelly legs in the last 20. I come back to my original point that until we develop a ‘posse’ of worthy tight forwards we will be forever sucking on the hind teet. It pisses everyone off to throw accolades at McCaw and co but any objective rugby watcher would draw the conclusion they are simply amazing.

    • Johnny-boy

      We’ve got one who could be. His name is Ben Mowen but he is refused a chance to show his stuff at Wallaby level. Funnily enough he’s really Australia’s only fair dinkum no. 8 with big potential. When McKenzie is coach, won’t be long now, watch this guy develop in leaps and bounds.

  • rugbyinmyblood

    Daley moore slipper
    Douglas timani
    Higgers mowen hooper.

    Daley moore and slipper all have good work rate and carry the ball forward with ten people on them. Douglas and timani are giants we need both. Some one sleep with douglas girlfriend the night before so he fires up and kills people with his size. Higgers if healthy adds some flare. We cant get over the gain line we need ball runners. Dennis is ruck to ruck whick is good but we need some runners. Mowen cause everybody else has failed at 8. Another thing with these players is they will be around for the next 4 years.

  • Paul Parker

    Come on Dingo, time to show some honour and tender your resignation…and take the sheep you rode in on with you…I’m referring to the ARU officials who invited this blight on Australian rugby.

  • Razz

    Some clear points:

    1. I think we can safely say we are no longer the No.2 ranked side in the world.

    2. We are playing individually with incredible courage. The problem is we are being smashed by teams. We need to play as a team or the injury toll will continue to escalate.

    3. Judging by the quality of the youth in the SA team, they are going to be a force in the near future. Unfortunately the same cant be said for ours – yet we seem to have been saying it for years.

    4. AFL are miles ahead of us in terms of total package. We are no longer chasing, we’ve lost sight and are going backwards. ARU time to make some tough decisions.

  • Captain & Tennille

    Has anyone watched the AB’S play today? They have a forward pack that goes forward, can catch and pass and generally rule the roost!!

    It does not matter for the Wallabies who plays 10 etc if they dont get ball on the front foot…

    S Paddy you are spot on…the AB’s play and passing between forwards was exceptional and showed that forwards win matches…

    Going to be very hard next week…get the boots out boys and wait by the phone….

    • Johnny-boy

      The Wallaby forwards are quite capable of it, as last year at Suncorp clearly showed but they won’t do it regularly for reasons that should be obvious by now

  • John

    All Blacks hammered the Argies 54-15

    Best performance to date from the Ab’s. Dan carter was outstandind as was McCaw. Hat trick to Cory Jane.

    The Argies tried hard and proved themselves worthy of the addition to the Rugby championship.

    The Wb’s will have a tough encounter next week….

  • John

    The AB’S showed how it’s done, the forwards were outstanding, smashing and crashing hard, the midfield punched their way over the advantaged line everythime.

    At the end of the match the Argie crowd gave the AB’s a standing ovation for witnessing a display of power, precision and brutal toughness….

    well done the AB’s.

    • S Paddy

      I concur. You just have to tip your hats sometimes when you see great teams play like that. 7 points down in 5 minutes is adversity to Australian rugby players. It seems to drive McCaw and co into higher gears.

  • sarina

    That was some sort of abs performance!! Wow! Paddy is dead right we dont win the collisions like they do and get good ball consistantly. Reid mccaw both locks messam dont go backwards. We dont have the same bloody mindness not to lose every contest during the game. We were 1s and 2s today the abs 4s and 5s. Time up robbie baby

  • gel

    Agree with most of what was said in the article, but differed in my opinion of Kurtley. Definitely the best option at 5/8 until Quade reigns himself in, but in all honestly his passing game last night was mostly poor at best. Particularly early on BEFORE the boks started to completely dominate us up front. I think he is probably still not fit. His long kicking game was good though.

    The injuries… well there are many reasons for them, but I also think that lack of confidence has a part to play as well.

  • Rick with a silent p

    1. Rugby Union is the number 4 code in Australia, generally drawing on private school pool of young players. ABs & Boks are THE NATIONAL HEROES in their countries. ABs have a comprehensive structure for development of talent from all schools through jnr tournaments, clubs, ITM. This is the crux of the state of Aussie Rugby – not the coach nor the players.
    2. Whilst Deans has some failings – imagine what diabolical results we’d have had this year if he had not taken the steps he took to deepen our player stocks at national level.
    3. Test matches are traditionally arm-wrestles not try-fests. Trouble is we’re playing too many tests and supporters’ expectations have become unrealistic.
    4. How awesome our Wallabies are that they continually step up to take on sides like The ABs n Boks and do enough to be in the world top 3. Here’s to you Sharpie & the boys – you are courageous.

  • Pedro

    To be honest I have seen much better wallaby teams get similar results in south Africa, so on the face of it, it’s not a terrible result.

    I thought both half backs played well, aside from phipps’ knock on, beale was good value too. I think the biggest turning point was when we elected to kick at goal instead of going for touch early on, why go for a low percentage kick when you can put pressure and gain territory, possibly score a try?

    South Africa played great though, unfortunately they seem to have found a complete fly half now, which will make things harder for anyone who plays them.

    I also thought the substitution thing was shit. I really don’t think anyone would care if fainga came on. Seriously get over it, the game was out of our reach, players were obviously injured. All it did was remove scrummaging from the contest, which if anything helped Australia. Just a zero common sense call. Although having a prop that can only play 30 min at a time is also shit.

    We are playing perhaps too much rugby at the moment but I also question our conditioning. There’s no reason for Hooper being able to go hard for 80 other than the work that you put in to reach that level of fitness. That is the reason the brumbies went well this year, they could stay in contests physically because they put in the work.

    Also can Aleuia please play soon, even if we lose it would be refreshing to see a wallaby that can consistently win collisions.

    • bill

      Most every collision was the turning point for me, clear win to the boks. I thought they never tried to roll away but that becomes incidental when you’re that outplayed. The guys did well to keep the score that close.

      Not sure about the subs thing, were blood bins excepted from the count? If they were then fair enough, kind of ironic that Deans gets done for too many subs.

      • Pedro

        Yeah pretty sure blood bins aren’t included as I remember phipps and being back on the field at the end. Should’ve given tpn a blood capsule, then everything’s cool. Shame they only worry about external bleeding.

  • sarina

    Wen u watch nzs itm cup u c the development of talent they hav coming thru. Every now and then theres an aussie who goes ova to improve himself playing for 1 of their teams. Maybe we need to force guys to do that since we hav nothing. Then we can also get a good idea of wat makes them tick and make our guys physically and mentally tuffer. Somehow i dont think it wil happen. Its easier to sit at bondi or surfers!

  • dave

    that game reminded me of the rwc quater finals last year against the boks when the ref let the breakdown turn into a free for all, only this time we didn’t have pocock to lay down some hurt, i think he would of made a big difference in this game

  • the ardent b’stard

    agree with s paddy – this team is never going to get anywhere when the front row is in the bottom five on the rankings list, as they are again this week – thought KB did ok but playing 10 is not about creating 10 chances, its about nailing and taking 1 or 2. how often do you see Carter try the flashy stuff.
    how abt this for a radical suggestion, whatever happens to the coach, its clearly time for a major playing staff overhaul – so in order to concentrate the mind just forget these names for the wallabies – forever – robinson(s), dennis, TPN, Samo, Simmons, Higgenthingy, Elsom, Palu, Brown, Cooper, horne, mitchell, turner and anyone called Faianga. Might hurt for a year but who knows in the longer term.

    • bill

      And in a year you’ll have a new list of names to forget.

  • Zach

    The boys were never going to win in Pretoria – a Springbok bragging about a win at Loftus is tantamount to clapping for a retarded kid when he catches a ball! What made this humiliating though was the fact that the Boks were allowed to do ANYTHING. How the hell Strauss stayed on the field and wasnt carded baffles me. And the final call to restrict able bodied subs at international level is just plain dangerous – let alone pretty transparent as to which way the ref was leaning. For the first time I actually WANT to blame the ref (maybe Ive lived in SA for too long).

  • murph

    Played a 10 at 15 and a 15 at 10 with a tight five made up of players from a perennially underperforming team.

    That is all.

  • Garry

    this forum has the stench of NZ trolls about it. All that’s missing is the spruking of that laudable ‘AB DNA’.

    • John

      Your comment has the stench of bitterness and a jealous overtone.

      All here are Rugby supporters regardless who they are or support as a team.

      The Ab’s are to be admired and looked at in regards to what the Wallabies are missing in their game….

      John

  • baldwid

    Beale is not a 10 in my books, nor is O’Connor!! Pity QC has dropped the ball, he is our best option. Those who think Lealifaano was a chance are deluded – the bloke is a talent but not a 10 and could not crack starting ITM last year. Toomua is a good prospect and has the best boot of all Aussie 10′s

  • Nick

    I haven’t missed watching a Wallabies game in 6 years before yesterday. Going into the match I figured we were fucked. I was right. I wasn’t upset about missing the game at all. Until Robbie Deans is let go, I will be perfectly content to never watch the Wallabies play again.

  • Parker

    Too right Nick! Anybody who cares about Oz rugby should go out in solidarity. Until those clowns at the ARU are hit in the wallet, they won’t think to do something to save the situation. It’s been obvious for years that Deans’ time was up. Do you think that after this abominable result, the ARU drongoes will act of their own accord to sack Deans. My bet is they will start launching a bunch of excuses as to why he should stay. It’s going to take a mass spectator inaction to prompt them to do the right thing.

    • murph

      Parker

      The softening up campaign has already started with JO’N and the ARU media moles making plenty of noise about injuries. Deans will stay even if the Wallabies are beaten in Rosario.

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