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Wednesday’s rugby news has no offer for Hayne at Waratahs, Cheika approving the appointment of Nick Stiles, Bill Meakes into Wallabies squad and Angus Gardner to referee semi-finals.


Hayne Plane Grounded

The Waratahs have announced that they will not pursue Jarrad Hayne despite Hayne’s interest in switching codes once again.

“We’re not going to pursue Jarryd at this present point in time, and I think it’s a bit of a watershed moment for the organisation,” said chief executive Andrew Hore.

“We feel with the fact that we’ve combined both NSW and Waratahs rugby that our first priority has got to be making NSW a great rugby state again and that’s got to be our primary focus.

“Now, is a quick fix going to do that? We don’t think it is.

“We think the issues in our game are that broad and deep that we want to focus on resolving those, and when you’ve already got 10-plus Wallabies — plus Israel Folau in our team — we feel that there’s enough star-power there at this stage.

“Maybe it’s about utilising their skillset more, while at the same time increasing investment into the things that are going to make us a great rugby state once again.”

Cheika Approves

Wallabies coach Michael Cheika has supported the appointment of Nick Stiles as the new head coach of the Queensland Reds.

“We’ll be giving Nick the support where he needs it to make his program the best it can be, not telling him how to play because he knows that,” Cheika said.

“He is an Australian coach with lots of experience and this is the natural step forward.”

Meanwhile, Stiles is hopeful of obtaining the signature of Quade Cooper following his decision to hold off until a coach was appointed.

“I’ve been talking to Quade for some time so hopefully we get it sorted and he commits to the Reds,” Stiles said.

Meakes into Squad

Western Force recruit Bill Meakes has reportedly been revealed as a member of the Wallabies training squad despite not playing any Super Rugby matches.

Makes played club rugby in Sydney before moving overseas and eventually playing for Gloucester under former Brumbies coach Laurie Fisher.

Meakes can play inside and outside centre but spent most of his time at Gloucester at outside centre.

The Wallabies are currently in camp in Sydney without the Brumbies players who played last Friday night against the Highlanders.

Meakes is not expected to be retained once the squad is cut on August 5.

Gardner Appointed

Australian referee Angus Gardner has been appointed to referee in this weekend’s Super Rugby semi-finals after coping criticism from Brumbies coach Stephen Larkham last weekend.

Gardner will referee the Hurricanes clash with the Chiefs in Wellington on Saturday.

Meanwhile, South Africa’s Jaco Peyper will be in charge on the Lions match against the Highlanders in Johannesburg.

 

  • onlinesideline

    In other words, he’s about to sign with Eels and it was time to save face.
    .. wot ? wotttt ?

    • Greg

      Let him go…. we don’t need the grief.

      Clearly a talented sportsman, he didn’t have much to show in 7s…. best that NSW Rugby focuses on developing its own talent from the juniors.

  • Rusty Staples

    Who are the players in extended training squad.

  • Who?

    At least there’s some Aussie representation in the Semis. :-P

  • Seb V

    If Hayne was 2 years younger and eligible for wallabies then maybe sign him. He has left his run too late, like he did with NFL, and rugby 7’s. Great athlete, poor timing,

  • muffy

    I know this Stiles thing has been done to death in the last 24 hours, but i have waited a while to comment as my usual esspresso fueled ravings are those of an angry mad man.

    I am happy to let Nick have a fair old go. Co coching is like designing buildings by commitee… Nick, by all accounts has had terrific success in the NRC and this shows a capacity to communicate and motivate the Gen Y type player the reds seem to have the most of. I cant see george Smith and co needing motivation.

    Good luck Nick, I hope you can turn things around, I saw glimpses of posibilities with the reds this year and i hope you can capitalise on those.

    2017 – the year of the Reds … Anyone?… Hello… hello…

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      mate, I’d be hoping they improve a lot and gain some of the focus they seem to have lost. Seeing them at their best is awesome and if Stiles and his coaching team can get that out of them consistently then there’s no reason why they couldn’t make the playoffs again. Big jump to go further but – hey you gotta dream for the moon to land on the stars.

      • Nick Gregory

        I feel like your last sentence is the wrong way around?

        • John Tynan

          Don’t be telling Jarryd how to dream….

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Nah! Shoot for the moon, if you miss you still land amongst the stars. At least that’s how we say it across the ditch anyway.

      • huh?

        ahhh the moon is way closer than the stars????

    • Tim

      the reds fowards next year look really good! their back-line has shown potential throughout the season just cant execute

    • Brisneyland Local

      I am hoping so! If they sign QC i will renew my membership!
      Mind you I think that I would pay the money just to go along and see George Smith play again! What a Farking Legend!

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    I applaud the Waratahs for this decision. It appears common sense hasn’t gone completely from the NSW administration although I’ll hold off until I see what these plans are to make NSW great again actually are. AND, does this mean he is acknowledging it’s not great now? If so why did he allow that to occur?
    Interesting call on Meakes – who I know nothing about – but why you would bring someone into a squad with the intention of cutting them later is something I just don’t fathom. I obviously must be missing something here.
    I don’t think Larkham criticised Gardner, he criticised the no try decision that was made by the TMO. Mind you the UK writers don’t agree with him here http://www.planetrugby.com/news/whos-hot-whos-not-262-5/

    • harro

      Andrew Hore is a relatively new appointment, he’s only been there less than a year, I think. The state of NSW rugby can’t be laid at his feet.

      Good to hear him acknowledge the existing talent at the Waratahs and I hope the money goes towards developing the next lot by funding juniors, regional seniors, subbies, and the Shute Shield.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        That would be great – and the referees.

        • harro

          True, and coaches

    • Tim

      I dont know much about meakes either but i think he had a good season so Chieka is trying to see if his any good, i hope we dont call horwell back

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Yeah although after being brought back for the English series then ignored you’d think he’d tell Cheika to get stuffed anyway

    • Chinese Dave

      Andrew Hore is new at the job. At least he’s identifying that they need to improve, but there’s always a naysayer isn’t there?

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Yeah I know he didn’t get it where it is I didn’t mean to knock him. I think this decision is a great start and I hope it keeps going

        • Chinese Dave

          Yeah sorry for jumping on you like that. I just get pissed off at some of the negativity on this site. The ARU and everyone else are always absolutely hopeless, etc etc. Fact is, while they’re not perfect, they are doing a difficult job in a difficult environment. The numbers I’ve heard are that we have only 50K registered players in Australia compared to well over 100K in NZ. We’re actually punching well above our weight for the numbers that play the game. The ARU needs to do more to increase the numbers, but they also need to not be bankrupt. And all the while there’s a bunch of people on here telling everyone that if only they had different people doing the job it would all be roses. Fact is, as long as AFL and NRL exist in this country, with their multi billion contracts, we’re never going to match NZ. At best we can come close every once in a while.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          No worries mate I’ve got thick skin. Some would say it goes well with my thick head lol

        • Paul

          Registered Rugby Players According to the IRB (2011 data):
          Australia: Total Registered 86,000, Senior Males 39,000
          New Zealand: Total Registered 137,000 Senior Males 27,000

          By Comparison:
          England: Total Registered 2,500,000, Senior Males 166,000
          France: Total Registered 313,000, Senior Males 110,000
          South Africa: Total Registered 632,000, Senior Males 109,000
          Wales: Total Registered: 50,000, Senior Males 22,000
          Ireland: Total Registered: 153,000, Senior Males 25,000

          Source: http://www.irb.com

          http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/community/threads/graph-of-player-numbers-in-each-rwc-nation.9403/

    • Brisneyland Local

      Hopefully those North of the Border might taking notice of what commensensical decisions look like!

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        You can but hope mate

    • Seb V

      I think the inclusion on Meakes is simply so Cheika can have a decent look at him and assess his capabilities. Since he ain’t in super rugby its hard to effectively compare him to other counter-parts. Can’t hurt simply having a another player to assess, if he ain’t good enough if he dropped, but the small chance he impresses then Cheika has another option to play with. Can’t see any downside to it really.

      • Mart

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJSRcRB_BUM

        the kid looks pretty handy. Hard nut with good vision and passing

        • Dud Roodt

          Gees he doesn’t look bad at all. And is a deadset doppelganger for Francois Hougaard

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          some talent there

        • John Tynan

          this time last year I would have said “its only English rugby…” hashtagthreenil…

        • sampro

          Looks good. Strong, good pass in both directions, doesn’t look too quick though.

  • Spank

    As usual a home town ref. for South African teams, plus I imagine the TMO and both assistant refs. No doubt all very objective!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jack

      Noticed that – Disgraceful. SARU need to head north and join Europe, I’ve had enough of their crap.

    • Braveheart81

      One of the assistants is a Kiwi, Ben O’Keeffe. The Brumbies v Highlanders game had an Aussie ref, one Aussie assistant and an Aussie TMO. I don’t think the nationality of referees affects their job. There’s definitely research that suggests home teams get favoured by referees in all sports but that has nothing to do with where the referee comes from.

      • Chinese Dave

        I think it may have affected his performance in the sense of his going out of his way to show that it didn’t affect his performance.

        • Mr Wobbly

          Agree. I’ve had a theory for a while that non-neutral refs have a tendency to over compensate.

        • Chinese Dave

          I think it’s true. I also think it’s really unfair on the refs themselves. They’re damned one way or another. SANZAR really need to stop running this thing like a chicken shop.

        • Phil

          You would think it would be quite simple to have Gardner do the game in SA and Peyper the Kiwi one.At least it takes away any idea of bias,one way or the other.

      • Mart

        I’d agree with you if it wasn’t South Africa

  • Spank

    Pity than Hayne shot himself in the foot by running out once – too many – for Fiji sevens!

    • Chinese Dave

      Did he? I thought they played with six men for a while…

  • Tim

    do you think our super rugby teams can improve next year? if you look at the teams for next year how many players are each team loosing and gaining? Who should take out our conference? Tahs seem to keep pretty much their main squad? brumbies loose Toomua and Pocock but gain Godwin, reds gain alot of outstanding forwards and maybe even cooper, Rebels no real change? and force a few buys? but no standouts? Do we think the our conference can lift? to me the reds seem the team that would most improve next year just with their buys alone. What does everyone else think?

    • Chinese Dave

      Tahs are set to lose a large number of players. However, apart from TPN, Dennis and Mumm (potentially), I don’t think the damage will be too bad. TPN is the standout of those, but whatever opinion you may have of Dennis and Mumm (and Palu), there’s a lot of experience being lost.

      • Mr Wobbly

        Beale? Although he’s effectively been gone for a while anyway.

        • Chinese Dave

          You’re right of course, I forgot him on account of his being away.

      • Dud Roodt

        Is it confirmed TPN is leaving?

    • Graeme

      Tomane will also be a huge loss. With him and Speight out for most of the season the Brumbies backline looked pretty toothless

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Mate, of course they can improve. Winning isn’t just about stars and a team of hard grafting players working well to a team plan and with good morale and dedication to each other and the team will always win over a team of individuals playing for themselves with no cohesion and no plan. I think that the biggest thing needed to change in some of the Aussie teams is attitude rather than skill, every team has skilled players but I question some of the decisions that are made, especially those made under pressure and that comes back to attitude in a lot of cases. IMO (I don’t do humble) the Reds will be the biggest movers up next year and unless we see a change of playing style the brumbies will be hit the hardest.

  • Gavin

    I agree with not signing Hayne, I disagree that the Waratahs have enough star-power though. I think they need to invest in a star player (with ability matching his status)

    • Seb V

      Folau is enough star power for any team. At least in marketability.

  • MM

    Who is the Meaeks of whom you speaks?

  • Keith Butler

    Refs should be the other way round. Gardner in SA and Peyper in NZ. No possible hint of bias in the SA game then.

  • Andy

    Meakes is a good cheika type of player. Hard in contact and is decent at the breakdown for a back. He did really well last season at Gloucester. Will be interesting to see how he fairs at the Force though. With their playing roster and pending injuries, a good coach should get that team winning a lot more games next year

  • Bay35Pablo

    Which is NSWRU/Tahs Code for “We tried getting the sponsors and third parties to kick the can to cover Hayne’s latest “Dream” bill, and came up short. So we’ll dress it up as rejecting the filthy mungo lucre hunter, and getting back to our roots. Which is basically rooting our roots down to the roots.”

  • jamie

    Meakes is a fantastic player over in the UK. Can pass, can kick, can pilfer. Big tackler, hard runner, but a decent playmaker as well. Would love to see him in Gold before the force ruins him.

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