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Wednesday’s Rugby News has something about 2019 Rugby World Cup, Kuridrani re-signing, Foley chatting about Beale and Wessels deciding.


Nippon Nervous

japan win

The News Limited sites have this written down as Japan being “nervous” about the Rugby World Cup but there’s really no cause for concern. They’ve just pulled quotes from the World Rugby CEO Alan Gilpin, who was chatting away in Singapore this week.

Gilpin’s at something called All That Matters, and it’s a conference. Dunno what it’s about but here he is.

“It’s not just the first World Cup in Asia, it’s the first World Cup outside of the traditional rugby strongholds. So that definitely presents some challenges,” Gilpin said. If you didn’t catch that, Japan is in Asia and the RWC is going there in 2019.

“It creates some nervousness. Will we have sold-out stadiums, will we have the same level of audience engagement, the same engagement we had in previous world cups? The answer is yes, we will.”

With North Korea on the burst, and the Japanese PM looking to re-write the country’s pacifist constitution, Gilpin hopes to tap into the ‘nationalism’ – could have just said patriotic pride? – to really get the World Cup going. Japan did beat the former holders of the International Crab Juice Classic Cup, South Africa, two years ago in England but that was two years ago.

“National pride will drive much of the media coverage of the tournament so we will need the media to stay engaged with us for six weeks,” Gilpin continued.

“I think they will turn up in their droves not just to watch Japan but to watch the World Cup in their home city. They’re great sports fans and great fans of big events.”

A year after the RWC, Tokyo will host the 2020 Olympics. There’ll be rugby 7s there, so Gilpin will be looking forward to that double whammy.

Re-Tevita

Tevita Kuridrani try France 2016

Tevita Kuridrani has avoided a lot more gnashing of teeth by putting quill to parchment with a new the Brumbies and the ARU.

Kuridrani, the bloody idiot, has chosen to stay in Australia rather than ridiculous lucre he could have had overseas. His new deal is believed to be two years long.

Samu Kerevi has been in fierce competition with Kuridrani, with both players see-sawing between the #13 jersey and the Wallabies bench. Kuridrani has told the Canberra Times that being dropped only made him want it more.

“I think I’m in good shape at the moment and I’m really fit, but I’m not quite there yet,” Kuridrani said.

“I feel like I’m getting there. But I know I have to improve. I probably have to work a bit more on my attack and that should be OK.”

Kuridrani on the weekend earnt his 50th Wallabies cap. Not bad. not bad.

Foley Chats Beale

Kurtley Beale is tackled Wallabies v Springboks Perth 2017 (Photo Credit: Delphy)

For some weird reason, the Daily Telegraph has an article about Bernard Foley talking about Kurtley Beale becoming better while he was playing for Wasps in England. Why not ask the man himself?

Anyway, Foley says Beale became more ‘complete’ overseas, which may mean anything. He can kick restarts, and tactically? He can pass the ball to a bloke’s chest? Who knows.

“He has spoken about that, how he learned a lot about how they play up there and how they want to build pressure, how they start the game and try to play that territory-style and build it from the start of the game,” said Foley while he was practicing how to get his kicks charged down in dangerous areas.

“That has definitely added to his mindset and allowed him to complete himself. He sees the game a bit different. Add that to the way he likes to attack and the whole experience was a real bonus I would say. He has developed a complete package of his game.

“He is defending in the front line, making his tackles, and he is also taking control of the game. Having that experience overseas has allowed him to grow as a player and bring back a well-rounded game. That’s exactly what is needed in the heat of the battle.”

Hey actually, Foley was asked about his 1/10 abysmal kicking record, and how Beale helps him share the load of Wallabies disappointment.

“​It just allows each of us a little bit more freedom to just assess what’s happening in the game and to assess what’s needed,” Foley said,  as he practiced kicking the ball out on the full.  “It’s a nice balance, for sure.”

Wessels Vacillates

Winners are grinners. Matt Hodgson and Dave Wessels at post-match press-conference

Yesterday the esteemed Green & Gold Rugby News reported that Dave Wessels was a good bet to take over at the Rebels next year.

However, the man himself says “geen”, which is Afrikaans for no. He’s from South Africa so I thought I’d add that detail in.

“[Howsit?] I’m very flattered that there’s some interest in me from different places,” Wessels said, according to WA Today. Oh my lord, WA Today! That’s from WA!

“Just like the players, I want to make a decision with my family. At the moment, we don’t have the complete information in terms of the alternatives.”

Wessels, the article says, seems quite settled in Perth with his young family.

“[Ja] I feel very grateful for everyone in Australian rugby who has helped me,” Wessels said.

“There’s a [lekker] part of me that want to repay some of their faith in me.

“At the same time, I have ambitions that one day I’d like to be among the best coaches in the world [bru], and at the moment I think I’m quite far from that.”

Presumably, Wessels could take the Rebels job, as well as coach the Perth Pigs (or whatever they get to be called) in Twiggysloe.

Interestingly, this article also includes the following line: “Teams from Japan, China, New Zealand, Tonga, Fiji, Singapore, and Hong Kong could feature in [Twiggysloe]”. Hmm indeed

  • Julie T

    Maybe journalists need to stop speculating where Dave Wessels will coach next year and allow him & his family the privacy to make a decision for their future in their own good time. After all – Perth is a bloody great lifestyle and Dave was pretty happy here. It’s a huge decision to move anywhere until all the options are known.

    • Adrian

      Twiggy might put him on a “retainer” to hang around

      • Julie T

        I like many if the Sea of Blue are clinging to that hope. We’ll see what news the morning press conference brings …. Meanwhile Dave is busily sending personal thank yous on Twitter tonight way past his usual bedtime. He is a class act and the more I’ve heard him speak over the past twelve month the more impressed I’ve been. We had such a great culture and the nucleus of a brilliant team ethic developing that has just been smashed. It is so sad and so shortsighted.

        • onlinesideline

          yeah he really seems like a class act. Old fashion saffas values, high achiever like alot of them. He could well work himself into Wallaby coach contention in a number of years if he sticks around. I can understand him being loyal to Twiggy and even more loyal to his back pocket but would be a shame to lose him from Super rugby in OZ. It just goes to show you though, the influence a good coach can have, with a brain for rugby and also for people and culture too. Its smarts that make rugby teams win.

          The sooner we get Pulver replaced and the new guy re-intstates the academies the better. To think that the U20s could replace the academies is soo hairbrained – who decided on that ?

    • Bakkies

      If Wessels is looking at moving it should be to Munster not the Rebels. Munster or stay in Perth.

      • Missing Link

        If Wessels doesn’t go to the Rebels, he’s an idiot. He will be the next Wallabies coach if he sticks around.

        • Bakkies

          You would have to be an idiot to go to the Rebels. No money, half a squad, meddling from Rob Clarke, Imperium still recruiting staff and he has little time to recruit his assistants.

        • Pearcewreck

          He may stick with Twiggy in Perth to stay and enjoy the ride while it lasts.

        • Missing Link

          I don’t think that’s accurate but anyway, why wouldn’t you take up the challenge in turning the Rebels into a competitive team? Great resume builder, like Cheka, won an NH tournament and SR which got him the cred for the Wallabies gig. Wessels can choose to be loyal to Twiggy but that may end up with him coaching the equivalent of an NRC team. Gotta take your opportunities when they present themselves

        • Bakkies

          ML the Rebels future is not guaranteed and they have no business plan so what is accurate then in your eyes? The opportunity is at Munster not Melbourne.

          The last Wallabies coach that was from overseas had a far better pedigree than Wessels and was pillared because of his nationality.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Bakkies, good point about Deans.

          However, I think that Wessels is seen as a bit of an honourary Aussie as a result of coaching the Brumbies and the Force in a way that Deans was not, as a coach of the Crusaders, former All Black and guy interested in coaching the All Blacks before Australia.

          I also think that there is a national tendency in Aus rugby to be resentful and mistrusting of Kiwis in a way that doesn’t apply to the South Africans.

          I thus think that being a Saffa and not a Kiwi and not being tainted as ‘true’ South African as coming totally though the SA systems, he will avoid nationality based vitriol in a way that Deans did not.

          Just my two cents.

        • Missing Link

          Good point and yes we don’t share the same lack of trust in South Africans than we do Kiwis. I think it has to do with the way we play the game and a few close encounters over the years has built respect between the 2 nations. On the other hand, having to watch Sir Richie McAlwaysoffide butter the ref up for years while captaining the masters of cynical play has pushed caused that lack of trust. In saying that I thought Deans was a good coach during his tenure, who knows if KB kicked that penalty instead of slipping over and we won the Lions series, where would be right now – of course it was one of Pulver’s axe grinding moments

        • Bakkies

          ‘Good point and yes we don’t share the same lack of trust in South Africans than we do Kiwis.’

          There was plenty of ‘trust’ in Micky Arthur who all he did was tell the players to do extra work in identifying their weakness and what they need to work on (how Macqueen operated). They expected just to be told by Arthur rather than taking ownership over their lack of performance.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Ouch!

        • Missing Link

          Why does everyone from Perth keep on saying stuff about the Rebels? nobody else is saying this stuff.

          Apparently the Rebels have no coach, no players, no business plan and no money. No wonder everyone from Perth got ahead of themselves and wanted 4 teams… until of course, the Force were the team cut and then all the toys went out of the cot.

          I’m going to dispute that and say the Rebels will make the finals next year, with or without Wessels. if he wants to go to Munster then I wish him all the best but he wont coach the Wallabies.

        • Bakkies

          ‘Why does everyone from Perth keep on saying stuff about the Rebels? nobody else is saying this stuff.’

          They were brought out by an organisation that is already running at a loss, we don’t have know if the ‘deals’ that were only promised 5 million from the VIC Government (who may get voted out by the way) are actually signed, they haven’t denied that they were given a copy of the Force lack of ‘Alliance Agreement’ from the ARU, they still don’t have a major sponsor and buying a squad to expect success hasn’t worked in Super Rugby in Australia.

          Their conditioning program is also terrible and their solution to bringing in replacements is signing club players from Sydney on short term deals rather than backing their own systems.

          The Rebels also haven’t cemented a culture there they tried to bring in ACT Rugby people while buying in players who were only ever going to stay there for a couple of years. Constantly rebuilding.

        • Missing Link

          and when the Rebels have been in the comp as long as the Force were, then you can criticise them if they haven’t got their act together

        • Bakkies

          They may not have another five years.

        • Perth girl

          The rebels wont survive, the VRU has no money the ARU has no money. Dave Wessels would be worried about going there after the way the Force have been treated. He could easily go overseas for awhile and come back to coach the Wallabies. He is only 34 so has plenty of time

        • Missing Link

          The Rebels will make the finals next year. calling it now

        • Bakkies

          Have you been on the beers?

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I’ll remember this mate. Good luck and it’d be great but I’m not so sure

    • jamie

      No one in the public eye is given release. Just because his team got cut doesn’t mean jack to the media circus.

  • Adrian

    Interesting, the Foley chatting about Beale thing.

    Of course, Foley was only talking because he was on media roster for the day.
    BUT
    A day will come when Beale takes the 10 off Foley, …. whether it’s through injury, or Cheika “trying something different”.

    Cheika does that sort of thing, just when it looks like he’s settled on things. He tends to do this against teams that he thinks of as “weak”, even if they are no longer weak. Read Italy, Argentina.

    Risky….yes

    Even though Beale has been brilliant at 12, and might be even better in the back 3, it could happen.

    Personally,…. I’d cop it!…. especially when Hunt is back.

    I’m not tipping this v Argentina, but I wouldn’t be amazed.

    With Kerevi at 12, we could score a lot of points, and get the big win we need

    • onlinesideline

      09 – Genia,
      10 – KB
      11 – Hodge (DHP)
      12 – Hunt (Kerevi)
      13 – TK
      14 – Sefa
      15 – Izzy

      I really like Reece Hodge – hes a run on every time for mine.
      Speight is a no show in my book – hes out of his depth at this level – its bye bye Henry.
      I really dont know why KB is not put at 10 permanently. He could settle down in there and lead us into world cup. He can put ppl through holes, he can pass, he kick high, long, and to the corners, he can still roam and go himself – why why why is Cheik persistenting with Foley. This way we can include other guys like KH and Kerevi as weapons through the backline. I must be in different universe or something. They make it so difficult for themselves.

      • Adrian

        I’d leave Speight there until Naivalu is fit, and yes I’d have Hodge.
        There is something about Hodge, even though he doesn’t necessarily look the part. It’s more than just enthusiasm, it’s a sense of where to be

        • jamie

          Hodge has passion for days. Same as Honey Badger. Run it straight is a cliche because it works, and Hodge does it better than any other Aussie.

        • onlinesideline

          yeah agree, other than Keveri hes the only bloke that does run straight. What you mean he doesnt look the part Adrian ? Hes built like a brick shithouse, he tackles like a Mac truck, hes bloody fast and has a huge stride, boots the leather off it and he has a good air force one haircut – what more do you want ?

        • jamie

          Good hands…

        • Ads

          Hey online, I think I see what Adrian means. Hodge doesn’t look like he should be quick. But he is. He looks a little awkward/unco. But he isn’t. He doesn’t appear particularly savvy about where to be, having been shuffled around. But he is. Doesn’t look like he has soft hands. But he goes ok. All of that for me is “he doesn’t look the part”.

        • onlinesideline

          I see what you did there.

        • Brumby Runner

          I especially liked the lines he ran last weekend. I don’t think he’s a winger but either at 12 or 15 I would have him in the side.

        • Bakkies

          Speight is trying to run the inside lines off the wing like North and Cuthbert run for Gatland but the supports aren’t running decoy lines that the Welsh do to open up the space. I don’t know why the Wallabies stopped doing it as it was common place under Macqueen and Eddie. Maybe it was due to the endless whinging from Deans and Woodward.

      • DK

        I agree KB and Hunt would look good I’d feel safe with that also.
        Kerevi can’t defend, he is constantly caught on his heels or picking the wrong man or worse still picking no one and just watching teams go past. Looks lost, deer in headlights stuff.

        Hodge is a good option, have him kick for touch and stop this long range goal palava.

        • Funk

          He can defend, although he has definitely struggled defensively at 13 (he’s definitely not the first there)

      • Hoss

        I like it OLSL, but until we get the loosies right, the best fairies in the world wont win us games. As Nutter says – first meat, then gravy.

        • onlinesideline

          mate I agree but Im out of words on that issue. Both Ned and Timani are not long term prospects. One is too small and the other seems to be too bloody big for his own good. While Fafita is tearing his way down the paddock like a rhino Timani doesnt seem capable of driving forward more than 4 meters at best before he just plonks on the ground. So just no prospects at 6 or 8 yet we have 5 or 6 locks.Why Cheika isnt searching high and low for a decent 8 is beyond me.

        • Funk

          He’s just treading water until next year to get the best no7 back in to the 8 jersey.

        • onlinesideline

          insanity

        • Braveheart81

          Who has played consistently better for the Wallabies in the 8 jersey than Pocock in the last 5 years? There’s a reason he got picked there and it’s because he and Hooper are consistently amongst the Wallabies best few players and no other number 8 options have stood up and played well consistently.

        • onlinesideline

          I thought the Pooper was 7 and 6 and only later was Pocock trialled at 8.

        • Braveheart81

          Most of the tests they played together was Pocock at 8, Hooper at 7. I reckon Pocock’s performances at 8 were the best the Wallabies have had on a consistent basis since Palu was in his prime (a long time ago).

        • Funk

          I’m not saying he didn’t play well it’s just did he actually play as an 8th man?, I recall he played very similarly to how he played as an openside, it’s just he had an 8 on his jersey?

        • Braveheart81

          He played at the back of the scrum and did a good job controlling the ball there on our feed. He stood out of a lot of lineouts and ran crash ball in the middle of the field off the lineout. We used him in tight as a ball runner a fair bit.

          He certainly attacked the defensive breakdown heavily which is the strongest part of his game.

          What aspects of a number 8s game didn’t he do that someone else is significantly better at.

          Clearly Pocock’s biggest weakness as a number 8 is that he isn’t a good lineout jumper. We make a compromise by picking him at 8 in that area but I don’t think any of the other number 8 options offer a compelling alternative to Hooper and Pocock in the backrow currently.

          McMahon has played the best number 8 game this year in the 2nd Bledisloe and he isn’t a number 8 either.

        • Funk

          His scrum work was fine and probably a bit more running in tight but still similar to how he played at the Brumbies in his 7 jersey…I’m not disagreeing with you, he did a fine job, unfortunately he is the best option seeing as no other no.8 is standing up to be counted. “unfortunately”… I used that word because he will get selected to play a position that is not his best, not that he is selected. If he comes back and plays like he did in 2016 he’s the first selected in my team.

        • Brumby Runner

          A sorry state of affairs.

          By next year I hope we see Philip at 6, Pocock at 7 and Holloway at 8. Others in the running will hopefully be RHP, Cottrill, Mafi, Cusack at 6, Hooper at 7 and Naisarani and Valetini at 8.

        • Braveheart81

          Who are the options? Naisarani is the obvious one but he isn’t eligible. Higginbotham played a couple of tests in June and was average and has never done well consistently at 8 at test level. Holloway is playing great rugby in the NRC but realistically isn’t an option this season. The Brumbies generally played Smiler there but I don’t think he’s going to fit the bell at test level and is going overseas. The Rebels generally played McMahon there when healthy and he isn’t consistently getting the job done at 8 at test level.

          There really aren’t any obvious options that aren’t being picked. Neither McMahon nor Timani are consistently getting the job done but still seem to be our best options right now.

        • onlinesideline

          If I was coach today in present situation I would put Higgers there in a heartbeat. We have all seen what hes capable of. Thats the point. Its a matter of extracting it. I see what Timani is capable of and its nothing compared to what Higgers is capable of.Timani just cant run on the football field. Higgers has skills, he fast, he is a prick on the field, gets in ppls faces and he’s a leader when coached properly.

        • Braveheart81

          When have we seen it at test level? It just hasn’t happened. Now I believe he’s back in Japan until next year.

        • onlinesideline

          Do you think maybe our June test loss to Scotland was perhaps taken out on Higgers and couple of the locks, when in fact the whole team was out of sync ? I didnt think Higgers played too badly, I admit I hoped he would grab his second chance with Cheika with both hands and maybe didnt but I didnt think he actually blew it. I would have persisted with him.

          To me Cheika has treated Higgers like QC. Never really gave them his full blessing but rather trialled them from a distance and the players can feel it. Its like Cheika has already formed an opinion before hand and was saying OK, we’re playing a June test, we have hardly trained together, yet this is your last chance. But it may be different close up. Its just an opinion from the luxury of my laptop.

        • Braveheart81

          I agree Higgers didn’t play too badly. He also didn’t play particularly well. He’s a 31 year old who has a substantial amount of test experience and has never asserted himself in the 8 jersey at that level. I would have given him a crack at 6 where I think he plays his best test rugby but I can understand moving on from him in favour of younger players.

          Certainly he hasn’t don’t anything to suggest that he is the best option to push towards the 2019 RWC with given his age.

      • Pearcewreck

        Yep pretty good OLSL.

      • servo

        Speight was horrible when he first started with the Brumbies. He’s one person that takes a bit to get use to the structures. The Wallabies defensive patterns are totally different to the Brumbies too. In attack he’s not looking for work as much as much as he is with the Brumbies. Give him a bit longer and he’ll start to shine. I mean we persisted with Foley and Phipps longer than we’ve given Speight a chance.

        Beale playing northern footy has really straightened his attack, he’s hardly crabbing which is an awesome sign. Hunt and Beale are have very similar styles but Beale has a better foot. I would definitely give him the 10 over Foley.

        I might be dreaming but I think Lilo is still the better 10 when it comes to a complete 10 package.

        • joy

          Beale crabbed his way to a try.

        • servo

          He’s still going to crab but not as much as he used to. He’s straightening up and attack the line more. Compared to what he was like before he may have thought that the sideline was the try lines.

  • Patrick

    Mate I have not found the actual rugby news to be great these last few weeks monthsyears, but at least I enjoy your writing about it!

    Keep it up, please :)

  • Brumby Runner

    Foley’s description of Beale sounds like exactly the No 10 we need.

    Wessels wants to be among the best coaches in the world. He’s made the first step by becoming arguably the best coach in Australia.

    • Funk

      My pick once KHunt is fit again would be, Beale at 10, Hunt at 12 and Foley either on the bench or completely out.
      Just got further down the comments and saw onlinesideline beat me to it.

      • Bobas

        Foley, Hooper and Folau are undroppable.

        • Funk

          unfortunately….
          I’m still praying for Cheik to have that moment of clarity after a game and see things for what they are, rather than just blaming the ref.

        • Tommy Brady

          I wonder if Bill Pulver and/or Michael Cheika paid attention to the timely Todd Greenberg press conference on Monday?

        • Funk

          Yeah i was wondering the same thing….I did have to have a little chuckle to myself.

        • onlinesideline

          + Hanigan it seems

  • Nick Gregory

    WHERE ARE THE BLOODY PLAYER RATINGS!?

    • Bobas

      I haven’t watched the game yet… I’ve seen the highlights only for this one and haven’t researched a recording. I did read on another site that Foley and Beale where locks in 10-12, interesting as they are yet to steer us to victory.

  • Bay35Pablo

    “could”.
    Elvis could return from the dead and play for Perth too. FFS.

    • Bobas

      poor example, in all seriousness Elvis couldn’t actually return from the dead and play for Perth.

      • SuckerForRed

        Is it the “play for Perth” bit you are worried about? You might be right. Would probably get picked up by a Sydney team….

        • Bobas

          drafted straight into the wallabies, cheiks a hunk a hunk burning love fan.

        • Pearcewreck

          Too early in the day for that imagery, Bo.

      • Pearcewreck

        But Elvis isn’t dead, he is actually the gardener at Gracelands, has been for the last 40 years.

        • Bobas

          technically if he’s not dead then he can’t return from the dead… he could return from the assumed dead however…

        • Pearcewreck

          Yep. there is some poetry in that.
          The assumed dead Elvis could play for the assumed dead team The Force.

  • TouchFinderGeneral

    Foley needs practice on how to get his kicks charged down in dangerous areas?

    • Bobas

      I thought he was just a natural at it too, but elite athletes train at everything.
      He’s currently working out a way to have a penalty shot charged down.

    • Bakkies

      Genia is just as bad as Foley when it comes to kicks being charged down.

      • Pearcewreck

        True dat.

      • TouchFinderGeneral

        But does he work as hard at it?

        • Bakkies

          Far too much. Especially with taking practice at kicking straight in to 2 metre tall lock forwards who have their arms raised.

  • SuckerForRed

    I need someone to explain the Beale to 10 thing that you are all talking about.
    It has been tried before and was not a success. Yes he may have changed and grown as a player since then but…… I see his best position as 15, but since Folau has a monopoly on that position Beale is being shoehorned into 12. Now, even I have to admit that he has played well there the last couple of games but there have still been a couple of incidents where under pressure it has turned to shite. They just haven’t stood out because there has been a fair bit of shite happening around him. If you think that teams are targeting Foley, what do you think will happen if Beale gets put in there?
    At the moment, allowing for fitness, we have a fair list of decent fullbacks – Folau, Beale, Hunt, DHP, Banks… – and we are all trying to find ways to squeeze them into the side all at once. Why? Sometimes it is a pity that we have depth in a position so someone misses out. I keep being reminded of this every time I mention Liam F Gill……
    So, I need someone to convince me of the merits of Beale to 10. The thought of it just makes me extremely uncomfortable and nervous. I do not see that he would be any better than Foley. If you don’t think that Foley or Cooper is up to it then give Lance a go.

    • Funk

      I understand what you are saying, has he fixed his frailties…maybe, maybe not three games isn’t enough to decide yet.
      My thoughts for Beale at 10 is more around who would be the best 10 for the Wallabies out of the potentials that Cheika would pick, is he the best 10 in Aus probably not, but i think the Beale/Hunt combo could be the best out of Cheika’s limited list of possibles.

      • Brumby Runner

        Beale at 10 or 12 will allow him to drop back as second full back to support Folau when the opposition kick in general play. That combo seems to be working as good as or better than most other combinations atm. I wouldn’t change Folau out of 15 just yet.

        • Funk

          Sorry, no I meant Beale/Hunt as the 10/12 combo leave Folau where he is and Foley either riding the pine or running the water.

    • Pearcewreck

      Maybe people keep suggesting KB as a 10 because Foley is so crap.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Mate I think you’ve nailed it. I agree with SFR, Beale works better in space and the tries he has scored this year have all come from broken play. He’s actually done nothing at 12 and even the good defence against SBW is offset by a couple of horrendous failures. I agree he has been much better than I expected but pushing him further in because the incumbent is crap and there aren’t any other options doesn’t make sense to me

      • SuckerForRed

        Maybe. But I don’t think Beale at 10 would be any better than Foley. Even though Foley is crap.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      The trouble is the depth meant to have been built around Super rugby hasn’t occurred because too many failed Kiwis are being employed while up and coming Aussies are kept as 4th and 5th options in NSW and QLD

      • McWarren

        Spot on KRL. And now we want take a guy who is performing well at 12 and move him to 10???? We’ve learnt nothing these last 15 years. If Foleys not performing then try Lance, Cooper or even younger guys like Stewart. We don’t respect the skills of different positions. Especially in our 6,7,8,10,12 & 13 roles.

    • mikado

      Personally, I like Beale at 12. It gets him involved a lot, allows him to act as “second playmaker”, and he does get broken play opportunities from time to time. I can’t help feeling he’d be a little wasted at 15 (and I’m a bit baffled as to how Folau went from one of the best fullbacks in the world to someone surplus to requirements). If Folau can’t get his mojo back then, as you say, Hunt and DHP are good in the role.

      I daresay Beale would go well at 10 but it’s quit a while since he has been tested there isn’t it? It’d be a fair bit more pressure than he’s currently getting at 12. Perhaps worth trying as an experiment, but not something to pin too many hopes on. Myself, I don’t think that Foley is awful. He’s got some great attributes, to go with some glaring weaknesses. I think he’s still one of the best place kickers in Australia (if not, who’s better?) But Lealiifano seems to be going well at Ulster so I imagine he’ll be offering competition for the 10 (or 12) spot before long.

      • SuckerForRed

        Yeah. Fingers crossed Lilo comes back firing next year.

  • Bakkies

    According to Adrian Barich Twiggy’s press conference is at 9am Perth time. To quote the great one just bring it.

  • Hoss

    i am thrilled Axle Foley thinks ‘its a nice balance, for sure’ with KB. I can rest easy that the most dangerous backline player we have had in years is wasted behind loosies who cant secure / defend the pill or a ten who drifts between just ‘ok’ and ‘very poor’ every game (same for our 9).

    Its great that this nice balance has so far contributed 0 from 3 and we are no lock against the Argies – so quite possibly 0/4.

    Interesting insight into the mindset of our boys – satisfied with losing perhaps, just happy competing or complacent from being the only genuine 10 in the squad – maybe time to shock Foley to the core and give him a rest, a big rest. Rattle the cage and see what falls out.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Must be great for Foley to be certain of a spot because there are no options. He obviously doesn’t practice his skills because over the years he’s got worse not better. To be fair he’s having to front up to the press but I must admit I’m losing all respect as he comes across far to arrogant and settled after so many shit performances this year.

  • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

    Now we just need Tom Banks to resign and I think we will be looking really good for a 2018 squad. We are still in the rebuild stage, but if Banks resigns then I will be really happy with the squad, and much happier than 2017.

    • Pearcewreck

      Yep, and we also need to regain our attacking flair of old.
      We were pedestrian this year.

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        We improved markedly when Banks was promoted to fullback above Toua.

        Hawera was also in his first year of SR at 10, and had to play with Godwin, who is the most one dimensional 12 I have ever seen (as fasntastic as he is in defence).

        Next year I hope Lealiifano is put at 10 man Hawera at 12, with Banks at fullback. Them + TK and Speight is a good backline.

        • Pearcewreck

          Powell at 9 as well.

          Also, when it comes to being one dimensional centres, I see your Godwin and raise you an A Fiaanga.
          He was the king of one dimensional centre’s.
          Could not pass the ball.

          Although, I concede that he was a 13.

          Anyhoo, as you say, we got better with Banksy at 15.

  • Hoss
    • mikado

      I really do hope this competition delivers all it’s supposed to, but right now I’m feeling very negative about it.

      – It seems to be a direct rival to NRC. I can’t see how that will be a good thing (unless NRC is killed off and subsumed into the IPRC)

      – The competition format is inefficient – all these long haul flights to play teams in countries with no major rugby tradition. Strategically, this might be great for spreading Australian influence and rugby in general, but it seems to me the competition is going to absorb a lot of cash which might be better used elsewhere.

      – It will do nothing to save the Force (or the legacy of the Force). It’s a tier 3 competition, so players with ambition will all have to contract to Super Rugby teams (or NH teams) regardless of whether or not they’re signed up for IPRC. Once they’re all signed up with disparate tier 2 teams, they’ll drift off in different directions.

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