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Wednesday’s Rugby News explores Foley finding the key to unlock our attack, Hooper continuing to be a pain in the neck, the prop doctor goes under the knife and the Australian Schools team announced


Foley finds the key for Aussie attack

Wallabies v Ireland Game 3 23 June 2018 1st Half-7
After their remarkable comeback against Argentina on the weekend, Bernard Foley believes that the Wallabies have figured out the key to unlocking their attacking potential.

Foley believes that the key to the impressive second half performance was the side fixing their defence which gave the backline enough space to execute plays that were falling apart in the first half.

“It was just the intent in our defence that was letting us down,” Foley said. “We were waiting, sitting on the line, missing tackles and they were really good and going through us.”

“We’ve just got to allow ourselves to play enough in the right half to play our structures and when we defend right we create turnovers and give ourselves a chance,” Foley said pointing out the blatantly obvious.

Coach Chieka agreed with the sentiment, noting the direct correlation between the change in attitude and work ethic in defence with the change in momentum and ultimately the win.

“You saw the change in attitude and work ethic and outcome in the defensive side of the game and that changes the tone of the fixture altogether,” Cheika said. “It stops the opposition, they start to think ‘why can’t we get through in attack?’ and then that leads to them maybe not concentrating as much on D, and then you take those opportunities as well.”

Cheika also took the time to reflect on the turbulent Argentian match, which offered up plenty of learning experiences for the Wallabies heading into the European Tour.

“I think there’s a season’s worth of learning in that game for our lads and now it’s up to them to take it,” Cheika said. “No one can force that into their minds, into their conscience or their sub-conscience. They’ve got to take the necessary pieces that are going to help them to be standout players going forward.”

“The second half there was some sublime rugby,” Cheika said. “I won’t lie, it was unreal, but we don’t forget about the first 40 in any way, shape or form…At a point in the game and the season really where we were right there and then, to deliver that, you need to have courage. We didn’t show that in the first half – that courage – but we showed it in the second.”

David’s Groundhog Day

David Pocock continues to be targeted at the breakdown

David Pocock continues to be targeted at the breakdown


Humanitarian, activist, rugby player: what can’t David Pocock do. Now Pocock is staring in the real-life remark of the classic movie Groundhog Day as he continues to relive his constant troubles with head rolls.

Analysis by Fox Sports has found that despite the assurance by World Rugby boss Brett Gosper that “We are harsh on head rolls — if they’re seen, cited and so on,” Pocock continues to be on the receiving end of dangerous targeting to his neck.

Pocock has received consistent targeting at the breakdown in which opposition players are wrenching at his neck, a tactic which already ruled him out of a test against South Africa when New Zealand tried to literally rip his head off.

It appears that despite the warnings, both South Africa and Argentina have been found guilty of employing the same tactic at the break down in the last two rounds of the Rugby Championship.

Against the Springboks, fullback Willie le Roux attempted to wrestle Pocock off the ball in the 68th minute at the breakdown. After realising he couldn’t roll him off the ball, he deliberately pulls up and flips Pocock over his head, putting him in serious danger.

One Test later, Argentina lock Tomas Lavanini was also beaten to the breakdown by Pocock in the 70th minute and employed a similar tactic when he couldn’t remove him from the breakdown, flipping him dangerously.

This is compounded moments later when Marcos Kremer crashes into Pocock and fails to use his arms in the tackle as he leans with his right shoulder first.

Fiji’s gold medal winning coach Ben Ryan has been consistantly blasting World Rugby for the lack of action in regards to protecting the player at the breakdown.

“It’s isn’t the officials in the games to blame — it’s those at World Rugby that have effectively told them to ignore laws in the book that are there for a very good reason,” Ryan tweeted.

This is becoming a dangerous trend for Pocock and other specialist ballhawks at the ruck, and I fear that this could lead to someone getting seriously injured if players continue to get away with it.

The Doctor turns into the patient

Tom Robertson hopes that surgery can save his World Cup hopes

Tom Robertson hopes that surgery can save his World Cup hopes


The world’s smartest prop Tom Robertson will become the patient next week, as the studying medical science doctor goes under the knife for a ruptured ACL.

Robertson injured his knee during a training accident on Wallabies duty in Buenos Aires last week, ahead of the final Rugby Championship clash with Argentina in Salta.

Scans taken upon Robertson’s return home on Monday night confirmed that the worst fears of the initial diagnosis have come true, with the prop rupturing the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.

The Wallaby camp is still optimistic that the young prop could still be available for the Rugby World Cup in Japan next year, despite the massive setback.

The estimated recovery time is between six and nine months, so if he can get through rehabilitation drama free, he could play in the last couple of rounds of the Super Rugby season.

The injury to Robertson opens the door for experienced Test prop James Slipper to step back into the Wallabies frame, after going through a torrid time this season as a result of a drug ban for cocaine.

Slipper has been a shining light for Queensland Country during the NRC, seemingly returning to the dominant form that made him a stalwart in the Wallabies side for several years.

However, it seems that Cheika has already indicated his preferred replacement, with young Rebels prop Jermaine Ainsley called in as injury cover for Robertson which should lead to selection in the upcoming Spring Tour.

Schoolboy selection shakeup

Viliami Lea, one of the big inclusions in the Australian Schools side

Viliami Lea, one of the big inclusions in the Australian Schools side


The Australian Schools have named their squad for an upcoming tour of Ireland and Scotland and it represents a change in the selection process of the side.

For the first time, Schools coach Andrew Moloney has been able to pick from a group of boys who have left school but are still under 18, aligning Australia with the northern hemisphere models. This has allowed Moloney to include has promising young guns Carlos Tizzano, Viliami Lea and Max Douglas, all three who have been plying their trade in top-level club rugby this year.

Tizzano was crowned WA’s club rugby player of the year whilst Lea has been getting consistent playing time at Souths (Queensland) this season and Douglas became a stable in Manly’s Shute Shield charge to the finals.

Their inclusion boosts the quality of the side which narrowly went down to New Zealand Schoolboys and is set to take on Ireland and Scotland Under 19’s teams, along with Academy teams from Munster and Ulster and a selection of top six Scotland schools.

“This is a really exciting time in these young men’s lives, with tours to northern hemisphere a unique experience,” coach Andrew Moloney said. “We saw from the Tri-Nations Series the great rugby that our lads are capable of and we have built a squad, from the Schoolboys, Barbarians and some players from our Academies around the country to take on Scotland and Ireland.”

“Both teams will present very different challenges, but we are looking forward to meeting both sides and representing the gold jersey with pride.”

The Schoolboys and Under 18’s squad is as followed: Daniel Ala, Angus Bell (x2), John Connolly, Vincent Creagh, Max Douglas, Carter Gordon, Will Harris, Zane Hogan, Lachlan Ilias, Spencer Jeans, Brendan Jimenez, Tyrell Kopua, Thomas Lambert, Viliami Lea, Reesjan Pasitoa, Billy Pollard, Luke Reimer, Seb Strang, Phranci Sula-Siaosi, Bailey Tautau, Carlos Tizzano, Tom van der Schyff, Harry Vella, Joey Walton, Jeremy Williams

  • Huw Tindall

    I’m not sold on this stuff about defence was sorted just due to ‘intent’ and that this unlocked their attack. Listening to some pods this week the Wallabies defensive structures are complicating things and compounding any missed tackle which they make. Even with the musical chairs aside the defence is not coming up in a line and some players are leaving their channels. This ends up with simple holes in the line which can be exploited. On top of this with guys like Koroibete flying up out of the line (as is the plan) it just turns into a shambles and makes us have to scramble and work so much harder. This organisation is all on Grey’s shoulders. How any of this opens up the attack is beyond me other than a bit of defensive pressure leading to more/better possession.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Absolutely mate. If Grey and Larkham survive any review there will be no justice.

      • Ed

        Larkham is the anointed one KRL. I dunno why as his time as FT coach with the Brums does not inspire, and becoming FT assistant at the Wallabies this season has seen the side regress in attack.

        • Geoffro

          Lotta people say Bernie overthinks things(imagine how confused the guys would be if Kafer came on board as a coach).If he could be more instinctive like when he kicked THAT FG he may be more successful.

        • Who?

          But remember, Bernie wasn’t trying to kick that field goal, it was an accident. He was just trying to kick it dead and ensure a 22 drop out (i.e. he was playing for territory), because the laws had just been changed that kicking the ball dead through the in goal was a scrum at the place of the kick rather than a drop out (in order to discourage the tactic).
          So he should be instinctive as a coach (when he’s not on the field) in a manner where he attempted one thing and failed to achieve it..? :-P

        • Bakkies

          Pretty sure the law was in place at the time. A drop goal attempt like now if it didn’t go over it was a 22.

        • Who?

          The law change was that a punt was a scrum at the place of the kick, which was a change, where previously it’d been that a kick – a punt, not a drop goal attempt – would also be a 22 drop out. That’s the change Bernie has stated he was trying to avoid. So he had to put in a droppie that looked halfway credible – he never remotely considered the possibility it’d go over.

        • Geoffro

          Don’t burst my bubble,but the law isn’t that if you’re attempting a drop goal it doesn’t count as deliberately kicking it dead is it???Bloody awesome moment anyhow.All good intent aside (sorry to use that word) he hasn’t really cut the mustard coachingwise has he.

        • Who?

          Exactly – he was doing his best to make sure it was dead, and to make sure it wasn’t deliberately kicking it dead he had to make it look like a real drop goal attempt. It’s just that it accidentally turned into a real drop goal. :-D
          Agree – absolutely awesome moment, just accidentally a fair bit better than he planned. :-)
          I still have hopes for Bernie as a coach, but he’s got a lot of learning left to do. Typical for the modern player/coach – talented footballer rushed through the ranks on the assumption that being a great player makes you a great coach. But being a great writer or mathematician or scientist doesn’t guarantee you’re a great teacher (you could be Sheldon Cooper), and being a great player doesn’t guarantee you can coach. There’s an apprenticeship to fulfil…

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        None of them should survive.

      • Adrian

        200%

      • Hoss

        There has to be at least one offering to the angry rugby gods (ie us fans).

        I reckon Grey gets the chop. LST gets the dual role of Head Coach & Minster for Defence

        • Missing Link

          sacrifice Grey in some bizarre ritualistic spell that makes the All Blacks lose every game they play

    • Brumby Runner

      The scramble defence is usually left up to Will Genia patrolling the area behind the defensive line. And his heart is not in it.

      FF received a fair bit of criticism for his miss on Pollard two weeks ago, but Will then had an even worse attempt and miss when Pollard confronted him.

      • mikado

        Agreed, Genia is a bit of a turnstile at sweeper. Gets stepped easily and makes no effort to track back once he has been passed.

    • Happyman

      Mate just listened to the podcast Rugby Ruckus which puts our defence into perspective.

  • Ant

    Well, what a relief to hear everything will be sorted with just a bit more defensive intent!

    Riiiight.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Sad isn’t it. Glosses over the missed tackles that happened in that half and now everything is ok. Even if he is just following team protocols in his talks with the press he’s still a muppet

      • Ant

        I just don’t really get it. If this was the PR script, then their advisers are giving them bad guidance.

  • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

    Fuck it shits me to end when I hear all that rubbish from Foley, Hoops, Cheika, et al. It shows how out of touch with Australian fans they are when they can say this with a straight face.

    Oh, it was just intent, was it? Well, if it was only intent making you play like embarrassing garbage in the first half against a super rugby team why didn’t you have a bit more intent at first? Was it intent that resulted in you missing two easy tackles that led directly to opposition tries, Nard? Maybe you should have intended from the start. And was it just intent that have made the Wallabies horrendous for the last three years?

    The ‘leadership group’ and especially Hoops, Nard and Cheika need to realise we’re not buying their BS responses anymore. You can use cliches when the team isn’t in crisis, when you’re in crisis you need some honesty and substance in your words.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      You, me and everyone else mate

      • Ed

        Agree.
        Don’t forget they are aided by their PR machine at the SMH, Foxsports etc.

        • RahRah

          Isn’t “Kick & Chase” an utter embarrassment! A conga line of obsequious arse licking sycophants.

        • Bakkies

          Supersports Rugby programs really put them to shame. They were honest about Allister Coetzee last year when the Boks were getting poor results and going backwards. None of this sugar coating, fishing for positives that aren’t there and fluff pieces that appear in the Australian media.

        • Mishad

          Prob why the NZ rugby shows air on supersport in South Africa and not the Australian ones.

        • Andy

          It’s one of the key cogs in the “fuck shit up machine” that is Australian Rugby.

          I’d love a rugby panel show that has some critique, honesty and less ball lickers from the wannabe club of aspiring RA board members. Drew Mitchell can go eat a giant sack of arseholes.

          Like I’ve said previously, GAGR should propose something to a network with nothing to lose. Maybe SBS? I’m sure Hoss would make a good second man. Even the boys from the Rugby Report Card after a few shandy’s..

        • Bakkies

          Channel 31 Rugby Show.

        • Ed

          A pity Brendan Cannon appears to be have been shafted from the show.
          https://twitter.com/canno02/status/1049819996862406657?s=19

        • Hoss

          Pffft – i wish Canno. Every chance Lemon Lips Mitchell will be performing a congratulatory HJ on the LST during the programme.

        • RahRah

          Of course he has, he’s not part of the bro clique that emanates from NSW, bloody Hoiles can’t even speak English.

        • Nutta

          Yeh, but they are part of the inner sanctum man.

        • Patrick

          inner scrotum is more accurate description of where they are at this stage

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Of course he has been, he’s not willing to shower sycophantic praise on Cheika and his poor team.

    • Huw Tindall

      I wouldn’t be so harsh on the players. The media training and stuff they get has turned them into drones. Few exceptions like the Honey Badger but most just repeat what the media handlers think is OK. Blame RA media for sugar coating things, not the players.

      • Geoffro

        Sugar coating it is an understatement.Some truly dumb remarks by Cheika.Does he really think top teams are going to start wondering “why can’t we get through this defense”,they will adapt and start finding holes in our inherently poor defensive structures. Nearly fell off my chair when I read that one.

        • Adrian

          Putting lipstick on the proverbial as someone just said

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        I do agree that the media training contributes a lot to it. However, it is consistently ‘Nard’ and ‘Hoops’ that come out with this rubbish. Genia and Pocock may toe the party line, but at least they usually have a little more substance and honesty in their words, rather than dumb cliches and meaningless rubbish meant to pull the wool over the eyes of the fans.

        • Ads

          Sauce came out with crap easily as bad as Hooper or Bernard last week. Looks like they have designated media guys. Sauce was the guy when Foley was benched. The captain obviously. Bernard is obviously another. I bet he’s not too happy about being that guy.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          You can still come out with something of substance, as Pocock and Genia sometimes do. This sort of crap like ‘successful tour on the training Paddock’ is reminiscent of the Black Knight.

          Haylett-Petty’s was equally as bad, but at least he was a first time offender.

        • Ads

          I reckon they are selected as the best guys to convey the message the media advisers want to convey. They are then given the brief. It is trite. It is crap. It has no substance. It seems unfair to attack the messenger though. I just don’t read it anymore.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn’t. But as the leadership group they should be the one standing up to Cheika in private and trying to change things, whereas all the evidence seems to be of them toeing the party line.

        • Ads

          Agree they should stand up to Cheika/othjer coaches in private if they have concerns. A media conference may not meet the definition of “in private”.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          No, but we’re four years into this dysfunction and the message hasn’t changed, the players are still coming out with the same rubbish. Unfortunately, I think that as long as they come out with it and aren’t forced at gun point to do it, they’re liable to be criticised for it.

        • Geoffro

          Actually thought Hoops was fairly introspective in his interview immediately post match,didn’t play it up too much but he probably hadn’t been briefed at that point.Kidding really,the players don’t have the luxury of putting shit on their bosses (RA,the coaching staff,media and us the great unwashed) if they want to keep their jobs -yes , what they do is a job like yours and mine(better paid mostly I’ll grant).It really is up to the bosses to get the best out of their employees otherwise let the team coach itself.If that happened I bet you’ld hear a bit from the players that would burn your ears.Had a few beers here so may be rambling a bit…….

        • Adrian

          Mate, buddy!
          Nards, Hoops, Keps, Cheik, Bobsie, Farg, Izzy, Koerie, Allas, Tolly, Rambo, Mambo, Kurt’s, Wanko, Hodgie and the rest of the boys are all spot on

      • Missing Link

        Maybe they need a new media trainer and stop using the same company that our politicians use

        • Huw Tindall

          Yeah I understand that they don’t want to be revealing team tactics and such but there has got to be something more interesting to say than the same old cliches and crap. Maybe our PR person is the problem and the coaching setup is all sweet?

        • Missing Link

          Spot on. They need to open a up a little and speak from within rather than sounding like a prerecorded event. Maybe the PR person is also the defence coach, who knows these days

        • Huw Tindall

          The PR person has certainly been on the defensive recently so you never know!

        • Who?

          Good point. Which proves that it’s not the same person, because the PR person is much more successful at running a strong defence!

    • The Jackal

      Throwing the toys out of the cot much….take a breath champ

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        Thanks for the advice, champ. But I probably won’t take advice regarding taking a breath from someone pre-emptively complaining about referees before matches have even be played.

        • The Jackal

          Chin up you big sook.

      • Adrian

        Leave it

    • Adrian

      Ha ha DBtB
      Love the turn of phrase, but I tend to agree with Huw’s response

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        So do I, to a lesser degree.

    • Nutta

      Careful Dude. Remember your place; we have no right to comment.

  • Geoffro

    Was there really some sublime rugby in the second half Michael? all I saw was some good honest footy (compared to the dross of the first half) against a side that had taken their foot off the gas completely.Good on them for focusing on the positives and sure,I hope they learned some lessons but my gut feeling is that they’re going to get shown up badly by a second string AB side in Tokyo a couple weeks time if their only prep is good intentions.

    • disqus_NMX

      Not to mention against a side that had lost their 10 to injury in the first half.

      How many years of “lessons” do these pricks need to actually graduate to fully fledged rugby players?

    • Fatflanker

      Spot on. I’m not sure the Argies entirely took their foot off the pedal though – they just couldn’t get the possession they needed to chew up our defence in the 2nd half.

      • Geoffro

        I’d say you’re probably right,the “new” Pumas are gaining more of a rep for their sometimes devastating backline (courtesly mainly of Sanchez) play rather than their traditional forwards oriented game.They looked a bit lost.

  • The Jackal

    Ref Appointments for November have been released.

    Big Congrats to Nic Berry who has been rewarded for his empathetic refereeing style with two significant Tests during November landing Ireland v Argentina & Wales v Tonga. Gardner has been given England v South Africa & Kenya v Germany and looks a shoe in to be at the RWC next year, hopefully Bez gets a shot as well.

    The Wallabies win streak against Wales will be tested as that will be controlled by Australian Super Rugby kryptonite & all round incompetent, Lyndon Bray’s love child Ben O’Keeffe.

    Wallabies also have Pascal Gauzere (FRA) against Italy & Jaco Peyper (FRA) against England, with Romain Poite (FRA) doing the Test against the All Blacks in Japan.

    The big All Blacks contests will see Jerome Garces (FRA) do the England game and then Wayne Barnes (ENG) looking to receive more death threats after he controls the Ireland game.

    George Ayoub & Ben Skeen were excluded from the Rugby Championship because of their poor June Series & Super Rugby but check check Ben Skeen has risen from the dead by virtue of the (NZL) after his name, RIP George

    • Ed

      Don’t start the moaning about referees and the Wallabies.
      We are our own worst enemy re discipline.
      Last 14 tests from the third Bledisloe in Brisbane 2017 to Salta:
      Wallabies have conceded more penalties in eight matches, the same in five and fewer in ONE test – the recent loss on Port Elizabeth.
      In this RWC cycle we have played 38 tests:
      Conceded fewer penalties in 10 games, the same in six and more in 22 matches.

      • The Jackal

        who blows those penalties? Tooth fairy?

        • Ed

          The referees appointed by World Rugby.

        • Who?

          I think O’Keeffe’s a horrible ref, but I don’t think Wales will be any happier with him than Australia. O’Keeffe doesn’t ref the breakdown. We should have Pocock for the game, as long as we’ve got him, we’re better than even odds to win the breakdown under O’Keeffe.
          Barnes for Ireland/NZ is a great appointment. Kiwis have grown to respect him.

        • Bakkies

          Wales also have forwards who can win turnovers.

        • Who?

          Not saying that Wales can’t force turnovers… I just don’t think that O’Keeffe – regardless of my subterranean expectations of the quality of his reffing – will be any more welcomed by Wales than Australia. And he likely won’t swing the game either way.

      • disqus_NMX

        Agreed that currently the Wallabies own problems transcend any refereeing issues. But the day we do sort out our shit with a new coach et al, then the focus will return to the inconsistent biased refereeing that goes on, so half of me is with Jackal, and thinking, oh yeah, that shit is still actually a problem.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Maybe the Wallabies should focus on improving their discipline and playing by the rules if they want to concede fewer penalties.

      Nothing worse than ref whinging – except when the whinging is preemptive.

      Australia’s streak againt Wales will be tested as the Wallabies are horrendous and their coaching staff failing in all aspects, while Wales is improving and well coached.

      • Greg

        I would argue a focus on defence might be more beneficial!

      • The Jackal

        Competent refs are surely not too much to ask for. Ben O’Keeffe is shit house and has been promoted above his rank like a fair bunch of the Wallabies (i.e Powell & Hanigan). I’m more being critical of his continued appointments, than preemptively whinging about Wallabies results. He was crap in many Super Rugby games that cost teams games through obvious incompetence. Post was meant to be a positive reflection on the good work of two up and coming Australian refs

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          glad to see Gardner get some good games. I really like him

        • Bakkies

          I hope he polices side entries better. The angle that Cane hit wouldn’t have helped him. The same ruck you had Crotty come from the side then tackled Louw from the Springboks’ side of the ball. Louw couldn’t support his weight due to it.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          And I fully support the successes of those young Australian referees, but not the complaining about other referees part.

    • Happyman

      Careful Jackal you made a negative comment about a Kiwi associated with Rugby. The Fact that Ben Skeen and Ben O’Keefe aspire to be idiots are not the issue.

      Negative comments about Kiwis will result in severe trolling regardless of accuracy.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        absolutely! And rightly so.

        • Nutta

          Boom Tish!

        • Happyman

          Funny as always forgot the irony font

  • Custard Taht

    So in translation: Basically we found out what has been wrong all season, we are a bunch of lazy fu*#s.

    • Nutta

      Yeh I love the irony; we worked out why we’ve been shit, it’s because we didn’t give a shit. Now that we actually gave a shit and got a shitty result, maybe we might give a bit more of a shit and just maybe we may then do some shit.

      It’s poetry.

  • Brumby Runner

    Nathan, like most I have a conscience but I’ve yet to come across a sub-conscience. Did Cheika really say that, or is it a typo?

    • Nathan Williamson

      Straight from the horses mouth, had to double check the quote myself this morning to make sure he actually said that

      • Nutta

        Well that answers any number of questions then.

  • Hitcho

    Jesus H Christ. With all the learning the Wallabies have and are doing, this team and all associated hangeroners should be the most intelligent group of Rugby professionals on the planet.. Yet here we are at 7th after probably only 120 minutes of decent footy in the last 2 years. Found the key??? Holy shit people, the key didn’t need to be found. The key is executing the basics of the fucking game and giving 200% for the team, fans and the country when you pull on the Gold!

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s. well after I threw up in my cereals this morning reading Foley’s verbal diarrhoea I could not but start the day in a foul mood. Here is BL’s rant for the day:

    – If I want to speak to an expert about attack, then Bernard ‘Spanners’ Foley is the last person I would be seeking guidance off. He has now been a shit attacking player for the Wallabies for 3 years. Doesn’t matter how bad he is, he either gets moved to another position or benched. But never dropped. Tell me that fuckwit hasn’t lost his “Love of the game”. The man cant spell attack let alone lead one.
    – Our defence didn’t tighten up that much in the second half. We still missed a boat load of tackles in the second half. 10 according to the stats. Running the ball straighter certainly helped. And if it has taken three years of shit, and losing results to work all this out, they are the slowest learners in history, and should all be sent to special school. Fuck me Roman.
    – I hope Toomua doesn’t play the northern tour. They need to realise have much they lose when he isn’t on the paddock. Particularly in defence. Gee I would feel aggrieved if I was in his position.
    – I don’t care that the players have undergone media training and all that piss. Surely they still have at least two functioning brain cells in their head to know how fucking inanely stupid they sound when they sprout this shit. Fuck it is pathetic. Like Grey’s Comments three years ago: “Defence- That’s an easy fix!” Three years later not only have we hit rock bottom, but we have gone and hired an excavator and kept on digging. Soon we will go and get Blasting Certificates and get some TNT or C4.
    – The FISM’s had lost their best player (Sanchez), their Captain (Creevy), and even still today are at best a 60 – 70 min team. They were always going to have a bad half. The fact that there are people out there crowing about how good our second half was are drinking the Cool aid.
    – Latu is being lauded! But Jesus he has some brain snaps, and that could be risky for us against some more disciplined and point scoring teams. That yellow was soft IMHO. He should have been redded. It was a cheap shot. If you are going to do it, stand up, punch them ‘mano et mano’ and wear the consequences. But a deliberate forearm to the head whilst in a grapple on the ground is the realms of the UFC. Some one needs to give him a solid kick up the ass.
    – The positive, is that it is going to be a great weekend of NRC. I cant wait. Go the Drua. Go Brisbane City. My offer still stands. If it is a Fiji home final, I am going. I will set up a GAGR Fiji rugby, surfing, diving, drinking tour for all those that want to come.
    Over to you GAGR’s!

    • Greg

      Morning @BL!

      Re the Latu card, there has been some discussion that there was some foul play further back that was the provocation. Any truth to this? any footage?

      • Brisneyland Local

        DIdnt hear that but doesnt matter. Everyone knows you get niggled, you respond. Your response is what gets penalised. And look there it is!

        • Geoffro

          Latu was properly wound up though wasn’t he,it was evident in the way he was playing.

        • Brisneyland Local

          And he took the bait.

        • Nutta

          Yeh. Unfortunately he has a habit of doing that.

      • Happyman

        Mate it does not matter it should have been a red. It would not have affected the result but was a proper brain explosion doing it in the last ten minutes when protecting a lead is just brain dead

        Foley intent is just bullshit own you garbage and try this for the message. “We were embarrassed and ashamed by our own performance in the first half it was not up to under 12 standard let alone test standard. Thankfully we came out and expressed ourselves and showed what we are capable of.”

        I try to keep my Qld bias out of my keyboard but I would suggest if Foley was a Qld Flyhallf he would have been punted long ago. Hang on a minute.

        • Bobas

          Foley gets punted every year, only as about effective as his punts are though. Sometimes they make it to the bench.

      • Funk

        There definitely was, what was shown to the TMO and ref was Latu’s retaliation to copping a slap/punch to the head immediately prior to him slapping back. I was not going to get up late at night to watch the dross the wallabies were going to dish out so i recorded the game. When that happened i rewound to when it happened and from the distant angle showed during play Latu definitely copped one first. as mentioned below, it shouldn’t really matter he shouldn’t have done it.

        • disqus_NMX

          Yeah I was pretty astounded the ref didn’t ask the TMO to wind it back even further. It was extraordinary that he only wound it back to the microsecond that Talu let loose. It was plainly obvious that both he and Coleman were fired up about something. Sounds like both players should have gotten a red card. And…. then you’ve gotta wonder what happened to cause the Argy player to punch Latu in the first place lol.

          Part of me says Latu should have more discipline, smiled like a crazy fucker, and walked off. Part of me says good that he fired back.

      • Nutta

        I went looking but couldn’t find anything substantial/clear. That said the guy has form for reacting. I won’t call it stupid etc as I’ve been guilty of a fair bit of it throughout my illustrious career of back-blocks rugby…

      • Geoffro

        Heh,heh, was just a little Tongan love slap,open handed apparently .Could have been much worse.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Mate, not sure it matters. Retaliation is always treated more harshly to try and stop it occurring. Shit always has and always will happen on the field. At this level it’s less likely to be hidden but it still occurs. Late was stupid and deserved the card.

        In saying that I always consider the provocation and that’s why I think a yellow was enough. I’d also give a warning to the team that initiated it as a final warning saying any more at any level is an automatic red. That usually calms them down.

    • John Tynan

      “..we have gone and hired an excavator and kept on digging. Soon we will go and get Blasting Certificates and get some TNT or C4..”
      Nice talent identification BL – as a mining engineer, that’s my ticket onto Hoss’ RA application!

      • Brisneyland Local

        Sweet. Welcome onboard!

    • Ed

      Foxpsorts gave Latu a rating of TEN, even with his yellow card.
      I don’t think Cheika will be too fazed with Toomua not there when push comes to shove, it will be Spanners and Gilbert for him. MC’s spruikers in the media will talk about what they bring in attack, their combination etc yet ignore how we have to do a defensive tango with them while Toomua will stand in the line.

      • Brisneyland Local

        I saw that. I dont know how you can get a 10 when you have been carded. God, even if you scored all of the teams points, a yellow is still bad.

    • Keith Butler

      BL you and Hoss brighten my day. Maybe some of the team spokesmen should engage their brains before opening their mouths. Also dead right about the second half. Nothing special or sublime just showing some basic skills that amateur players have. Agree also about Latu. How the TMO and ref called that an open hand is beyond me. A cheap shot even with minimal force is a straight red in my book.

      • Huw Tindall

        I think it was a very technical call with Latu. No closed hand and no fist. Arguably an elbow does more damage than a fist though! I thought red straight away but the striking rule interpretation has this closed hand crap in it so in my book Latu is fucking lucky.

    • Nutta

      I agree about 50%.

      Look, i’m going to get pummeled for this and folk can slag Foley or me all they like. But he is the best 10 we have. Every time he gets dropped he comes back and kicks x from x. He isn’t brilliant. He is no Ella or Larkham or Lynagh. But he kicks his goals, supports well and despite defensive frailties he is the best 10 we have and he has shown it consistently. Yes he has a pop-gun boot and yes he misses tackles. But he is the best we have so call me old fashioned, but the best guy we have is the one who gets the jersey.

      Toos in the 12 and 2nd distributor we need. Again, he is the best we have got for that role. Cheks – please don’t piss him against the wall.

      Media prepackaged MRE’s – totally agree. Boring as batshit and as tasteful as cardboard coasters soaked in spilt beer. I love the days of free-styling like Campo’s great comment before his first AIB test: ‘Who is Stu Wilson?’

      Latu – has earned the jumper. Again, he is the best we have got. But he does have some penalties in him unfortunately.

      Are you SURE you want us on tour?

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        Has he shown it consistently? Most pundits seem to agree Quade outplayed him in 2016 before being dropped (back up by most player rating lists, both those by the media and by the pundits – and in general people were and are prejudiced against Quade).

        Toomua wasn’t given a shot at 10 either.

        We know for a fact now that Foley is better at 10 than Beale, but I see very little evidence that he has ‘proved’ he is better than Toomua and Quade there, when they haven’t been given a shot yet.

        • Nutta

          QC has played his hand and had his shot. He’s not in the picture and it’s by his own hand.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          How is it by his own hand? He outplayed Foley, he was then initially got dropped for ‘not enjoying his footy’, and was then dropped from his super rugby team by a new coach after squads were finalised, and was offered substantially reduced contracts by other super rugby teams coupled with no promise of truly being considered by the Wallabies.

          There seems to be a particular attempt to re-write history in regards to Quade, but the facts are all there in the media.

          Edit: arguably outplayed Foley, I understand people will have different opinions, but the majority of people thought he outplayed Foley in 2016 for the Wallabies.

        • Nutta

          As I said, I’ll get slapped.

          And you are right – the facts are all there in the media. 3 Amigo’s, Toxic, B&E, hot-tub glory-boys, tweeting before tests, sitting out, gobbing off, choking, chucking toys into orbit… you are correct they are all there right alongside every double cut-out, no-look, King Carlos scud missile he launched that didn’t need to be. His YouTube highlights would look amazing on his feed I’m sure.

          DB you are more then allowed to have your opinion. But I disagree pretty strongly and we won’t find middle ground on this one. But that’s ok…

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I don’t deny that the facts indicate he seemed to have behavioural issues under Deans (nor that Kurtley or JOC either – Kurtley in particular with the Link/Patson episode is pertinent).

          However, the question then becomes whether his behaviour was so appalling then that it should justifiably mean that he never gets another shot?

          Second, if the answer to the above is ‘no,’ then we must ask whether he has exhibited this behaviour since?

          I think the answer to the former is ‘no’, and he was given chances since then. In 2013, when he was last incumbent, he was vice captain while the team played some of the best rugby it has since 2003, and when behavioural issues hit the team it was with the Dublin 6, which did not include Quade.

          I think we then also need to ask ourselves whether we want to have a team culture that is so rigid that people are punished decades later for past indiscretions, or at some point people have served their time, as it were, and should be brought back into the fold. I also see little evidence that he had a toxic influence on team culture when in the Wallabies squad under Cheika. Do you have any examples of this?

          I would imagine that given your comments re. Quade you are also of the opinion that Kurtley should be expelled from the team from his own behavioural indiscretions?

          I also am glad you have no authority over me, as I certainly made some poor mistakes when younger, some of which upset people. Thankfully, I’ve learned from past mistakes and try to be a better person in the future.

        • Nutta

          All fair enough stuff. Would QC play for me? Nope. Would Beale play for me? Nope. Would they WANT to play for me? Nope. I’ve done some pretty ordinary stuff in my life too – we all have – and I now live with the consequences of it as many others do to. I’ve got a second chance as whilst what’s done is done I can still change what happens next. But a 2nd chance doesn’t mean that folk who care about something so deeply should trust me with it again just so I can piss all over it again just like those 3 muppets have done on multiple multiple occasions. They had 2nd chances. They had 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th fkn chances. Fk ‘em. They’re done.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I don’t think any of them have had 7 chances, even JOC. I also don’t believe in an eternity of condemnation for past mistakes. Life’s a learning process, and just as anyone is capable of making mistakes, everyone is capable of learning from their past mistakes.

          I would have thought that people who made past mistakes, changed and then improved would be by far the best teachers and supporters of a positive culture, for they better than anyone are in a position to empathise with others and to help them from making the same mistakes.

        • Geoffro

          Spot on,is why AA,NA,GA et al and various other rehab programs run by past offenders exist.

        • Bakkies

          Agreed Nutta. In my job if I done what Beale or O’Connor had done I would be sacked on the spot and not got a second chance. Drink driving and being up in front of courts on assault charges aren’t mistakes.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          absofriggenlutely mate. I agree 100% and I think that and the fact that Beale is still playing is part of the culture issue the Wallabies have. The years where they all acted like dicks and were allowed to continue proved to the players that they were more important than the game. I truly believe that there is still an element of that in the current players which leads to some of this not improving we see.

          Personally I’d rather have less skilled players who wanted to improve and who worked at getting better in every game over flashy skilled players who never improve.

          TBH I’d throw Folau there as well. 6+ years playing this game and still the same defences he’s always had. it’s just shit.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          And yet the All Blacks kept Savea, whose behaviour was far worse than any of the Aussies, and Aaron Smith also.

          People make mistakes, but they can also be either forgiven or permanently punished.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          One offs mate and proved to have changed. Bit of a difference. TBH I would have sent them off for a bit

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Savea’s behavioural issues were far, far, faaaaar more serious than any of the amigos…

        • GO THE Q REDS

          And don’t forget. .. Quades season was effected by injury right till the last 1/3 of the season where he played very well. . …earning a spot on the wallaby bench(ultimately not even being used, hence not even able too play himself out of the position)

      • Who?

        Nutta, I reckon QC’s a better 10 than Foley, but he’s not there. I don’t think it’s his fault he’s not there – I think Cheika’s excuses for dropping him in 2016 and 2017 were ludicrous, and Thorn’s decision not to use him is crazy. But I can deal with that.

        I also accept that, of the Super 10’s, we really only have Foley. No one has been an option. There should be major questions asked at RA why this is the case. Why we’ve not seen another worthy 10 debut in the last half decade. Quade debuted in 2008. Foley in 2014 (I think?). Genia debuted 2009, Phipps 2012, but we’ve also since had White, Frisby, and we’ve got Powell, Gordon and others (we saw Tuttle touted, now Sorovi) lining up behind them. If Jake White ends up as national coach, given the reviews of Nic White’s form in the UK, I can imagine him coming home and being #1. So I can accept relying Genia, even though he’s our oldest 9, because there’s depth coming behind. Whereas, behind Foley…

        Another thing that’s not acceptable for me is that Toomua was one of our best backs through all the Tests he started, yet he was the one getting subbed or dropped. Toomua’s not a 12, either – he’s actually a 10. He grew up playing 10, he debuted for both the Brumbies AND the Wallabies at 10. He’s been shifted to 12 purely to accommodate more freewheeling players (Cooper and Beale – Cooper being a fellow 10, Beale being an 11/12/15), much in the same way Barnes was shifted to 12 (to accommodate Cooper and Giteau, even though Barnes was also a natural 10).

        Toomua kicks very well in general play, his goal kicking was about equal with Foley’s (but generally with more length), he has a better passing game, and he defends well. He’s not Mark Ella. He’s probably more in the Noddy style, the Jonny Wilkinson style.

        If Cheika had been serious about giving him a run – especially given even Cheika said in the press he sees Toomua as a 10 who can play 12 – then he’d have picked Toomua at 10, told Beale that Toomua was the 10, and left the backline as it otherwise was. Using Toomua as a 10 in the same style of backline that Foley was running. Because there’s less difference in game management style between Toomua and Foley than there is between Beale and Foley. So there’s less adjustment needed across the rest of the team.

        But instead, we saw 2016 again – shift more than was needed, and then shaft the more consistent player to bring back the favourites.

        • Nutta

          Pretty fair argument there. I admit I would see Toos at 10 much quicker then Beale again. I well and truly support your questioning around where the hell is the production line and I’ve argued similar until I’m blue in the face. Size of pool, appropriate pathways, access to such pathways etc etc.

          As example, whilst he may be past his prime, but if there isn’t at least a half-dozen Brock James types floating around Ireland, UK, France & Japan right now then I’ll eat my fingers. And if there isn’t another half dozen due to mature over the next 2-3yrs here in Oz now, anyone of which could/would/should if nurtured well, then I’ll eat the rest of my hand.

          The players are there. But our identification, development and retention is shite. And our inability around that sits squarely in 29-57 Christie St, St Leonards.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Yep perfect eg was 2 games ago…. .Cheika hooks Tomua for Foley, which then shifted the WHOLE backline. :o
          And for no apparent reason either. It’s certainly not like Foley is known for sparking a revival or pulling off miracles on a daily bases…….something Quade Cooper could certainly be tagged with. And if my memory serves me correct (and it does) the last time Quade was a Wallaby “finisher”…….Cheika didn’t even bother using him. Barely got a min game time.

        • Brumby Runner

          And there you have it – Cheika’s coaching and selection policies wrapped up in one neat parcel.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Nutta, I tend to agree with you and while I don’t think anyone is actually better the issue for me is that he appears to be bullet proof. Yeah he got dropped for a couple of games so Beale could prove how shit he was at 10 and yeah QC could be better, but until he plays at this level again how will we know, BUT what shits me is that he has done nothing in the last few years to address his obvious deficiencies. I don’t know whether it’s shit coaching, poor attitude or a combination of that but when you look at other 10’s consistently kicking better, even BB for his haters out there, consistently passing better and not running away in defence you’ve gotta ask if he should be there. Imagine if he ever had to kick like the Mo’unga one that led to that last try, there’s no way in hell he’d get to halfway let alone have it bounce out close to the goal line. Lucks a part of that but the distance isn’t.

        • Nutta

          Fair points all. But what I’m saying is that for better or worse, right here and right now, he’s the best we’ve got. Even when there’s basically only 1 guy in the line, he’s the one at the front.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Yep agree with that

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Problem is there has been little to no development and or rotation for the wallaby 10 since the last World Cup. Very very poor…..

      • Brisneyland Local

        Definitely want you guys on tour. I have aplace there. I twill host at least 10 if we squeeze in. Water access.
        Re Foley. I think he is 50/50. His defensive frailties are the same as Cooper. His kicking game is less. His attacking game is less. His place kicking is better. His brain snaps are less. His ability to direct play is less. So overall his is a margin call. Personally if we have hard runners I would take Cooper. But we dont.
        I just want to see something different. Something better. We have seen 3 years of Foley. Nothing has gotten better.
        I want Toomua at 12. I will accept Beale at 15.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Let’s go back to Cooper……at least he knows how to attack and create opportunities. …. and he is a winning culture

    • Huw Tindall

      Fuck are you doing good rates from the UK for the drinking trip? I mean rugby tour.

      • Brisneyland Local

        yu take care of the airfare. I will provide the Accom. My place on the Coral coast is free. Provided you dont mind crashing on the couch, Or on an airbed in the living room. the guest room is allocated for SFR. She will require her own space. And so it should be.

  • The Jackal

    very much looking forward to continued moaning from you in here in the future chief

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      You’ll probably get it. I, for one, am intensely saddened by the Wallabies’ fall from one of the greatest rugby nations in the world to one of absolute mediocrity. And the cliches put out in the media by the coaching and leadership group that seem to deny there are any issues are doubly upsetting as it indicates that nothing has been learned, nothing will change and even that, perhaps, the coaches and leadership group aren’t even aware of the fundamental problems.

    • Adrian

      Leave it.
      We don’t get too carried away here

      • The Jackal

        Beat it Adrian. Its left

  • Hoss

    Morning chosen ones.

    I am sensing some anger and frustration on here this glorious rainy morning in Gods Land – the Hunter Valley (highest rates of teenage pregnancy per capita in the Southern Hemisphere – gotta love our young women, attractive and good sports combined with Australia’s highest rates of obesity – so it doesn’t matter how you look, you will still get lucky – ahhhh, Utopia on earth).

    Great to hear Spanners identify the only problem with the Wallabies play – intent, phew, thats a relief – world domination here we come now. Kinda flies in the face of ‘Cant-get’Right’ though. Terrific intent, fucking awful skills / rugby brain.

    Occasionally even an ugly dog can lick its own balls successfully – the intent is there. Like i said a few days back, watching these Wallabies is like watching a bulldog eat porridge – i understand the intent, but the execution – fuck me.

    Salta was an aberration – Verily i say to thee the result will always be known as the ‘Father Ignatius’ of Victories – they unexpectedly came from behind.

    • Who?

      Intent and Intensity are Cheika’s KPI’s for his team… Certainly they’ve long been his KPI’s for selection. “He’s been training the house down.” Even of Foley recently – “while he’s been out of the (starting) team he’s worked really hard at all the details, he’s fixed them now.”

      • Hoss

        Stop shitting me – there are KPI’s ???????????

        • Custard Taht

          I think KPI in Cheika speak is: Kicking Poor Intentionally.

          Which explains why Spanners is his go to man. He kicks poor but man he does so with great intent.

        • Hoss

          Gold mate.

        • Bakkies

          This is how I feel after the Wallabies kick it straight to the ABs’ back three.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTQWT-B0EBw

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          The Wallabies’ kicking is so bad because they never practice it, they just practice endlessly running it until they come up against the All Blacks, whose rush defence pressures the Wallabies to the point that Nard or Kurtley feel they have to kick, and because they haven’t practiced kicking they do a shit kick that results in a counterattacking opportunity to Barrett, Ben Smith or Ioane. Madness.

        • Nutta

          Lucky no one ever puts a mic under my nose mid match then (at least when I’m watching that is. When I’m playing I’m generally sucking up seagulls so hard I would swallow the mike).

        • Bakkies

          Brian Moore despite being a lawyer by trade struggles to control himself.

        • mikado

          You on a bit of a Brian Moore crusade Bakkies?

        • mikado

          You on a bit of a Brian Moore crusade Bakkies?

      • GO THE Q REDS

        I’m not sure his KPI could possible go pissative after that 1st half of his.. …. not possible

    • Brisneyland Local

      Pure gold!

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Thanks mate. Can always count on you bringing me a smile or two.

      • Hoss

        We can separately partake in the ‘Cheik-mate’ drinking game tonite KRL.

        Each time Mr Cheika says

        – intent
        – passion
        – lads
        – lessons

        You have a wee-dram. Reckon i will get the wobbles about 3 minutes in. I might be conspicuous by my absence on here tomorrow, hiding under the desk cursing the lighting in my office.

        ‘Hello Dan Murphy’s – Hoss here, regular order x 3 please. Collect around 5.’

        I am not an alcoholic, just a long term wallabies supporter, ipso facto…………

    • Nutta

      One day I’ll tell you the story of how Father Frank had me cover Confessional for him whilst he was at the pub.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Bahahahwahaha

    • idiot savant

      The Father Ignatious of Victories…. Hoss I burst out laughing in the office when I read this and then of course had to lie about what I was reading! Glad I wasn’t driving. Platinum mate.

    • Andy

      Post of the year. 3rd paragraph had me going full stretch to the defibrillator

  • OnTheBurst

    I see there’s an article from Wayne Smith in the Australian today that suggests that no changes will be made to the Wallabies assistant coaching set up, as Cheika’s meeting with RA isn’t until the day before they fly out for the Spring Tour.

    It’s behind a paywall and I’m not about to start paying Rupes… has anyone had a look at the full article?

    • Singapore Sling

      I thought I read the clown was in front of the principle this week. When do they fly out?

      • Bakkies

        Cheika is suppose to front the Clown College board by the end of the week. The AB test is not till the 27th.

        To read the article go to Outline.com and paste the link in to the bar at the bottom.

        • Singapore Sling

          Thanks Bakkies. Cheika’s the coaching equivalent of Uraguay Air Force flight 571. Castle needs to act decisively!

        • Bakkies

          Castle making a decision would require her to do her job. Do the RA have any fluff events, junkets and lunches this week?

        • Ed

          Matt Rowley mentioned on the pod he would be at a function where Raelene would be, think it was this horse race people are talking about.

        • Bakkies

          I take it Brian Moore won’t be there after this comment during a match

          https://rugbydump.com/news/friday-funnies-brian-moore-and-the-gay-slap/

        • Singapore Sling

          Could be a bit awkward if Rae bumps into Peter Fitzsimons.

        • Bakkies

          or Alan Jones.

        • Singapore Sling

          It also looks like Wayne Smith has developed a logarithmic, Richter like scale for embarrassment: “Australia retained the Mandela Plate by splitting the series with the Springboks so the only true embarrassments were the first two Bledisloe Tests, which ended in 38-13 and 40-12 defeats.”

        • Custard Taht

          Nah, the only thing Raelene will bump into is the hooves of Fitzsimons high horse.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          How much power does Castle really have?

        • Bakkies

          She appears to have more than Pulver did last year. De Clyne basically ran that shower for the majority of last year.

        • Ed

          Thanks for the tip Bakkies. I have used the old type the intro into Google and then hit the link, which has been hit or miss.
          From Wayne’s article, if the whole coaching team stays together, I will be WTF?! Smith did display some delusion where he suggested the domestic season was not as bad as people think.

        • Bakkies

          Wayne’s articles have been awful lately. Mirroring the Wallabies’ performances.

  • Fatflanker

    Seriously, they’re hoping to rush Robertson back in to the team in time for the RWC?

    • Bakkies

      It is like bringing in Al Baxter to shore up the scrum.

      • Fatflanker

        Someone is having a laugh. Actually Baxter came good eventually – just in time to be dropped. There’s a lesson there for handling Robertson.

        • Bakkies

          It was either Brian Moore or Eddie Butler who said it, so yes they were having a laugh.

        • Nutta

          Wee bit unfair – he was getting fk-all help. Most of his time was during the height of the Meercat era.

        • Fatflanker

          Yes, true enough

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Must be April fool’s ALLREADY…. :/

  • RahRah

    Foley says blah blah blah, Cheika says blah blah blah, Hooper say blah blah blah – I (and it would seem many others) just don’t give a flying you know what for the bulldust that is fed to us week in and week out. We’ve been listening to this complete and utter crap for years.
    If intent is the problem then they should not be representing their country. As well paid professionals they should lose their jobs if they don’t perform, just like every other person that lives in the real world. I’m sure Cheika reminded them at half time that if he goes, so does the sheltered workshop in which they work (and I use the term work reluctantly).

  • Silver Ghost

    Did Cheika and Foley not read the CEO’s comments about putting lipstick on the proverbial……..
    I like what I saw in the second half, it was what a few on this forum were calling for last week – big runners bending he line, creating space and backs running on to the ball with pace. (It also helped that their No9 had a shocker in the second half and gave them no go forward ball.)
    We are not asking for detailed game plans to be exposed during these press conferences but surely the Coach and the leadership group can say something real.
    Not that I read it consistently, but when Parliament sits the Guardian run a live blog on proceedings. When a Dorothy Dixer is asked the blogger writes “blah blah blah, the Member for …… asks the Minister something inane – not going to report it.” GAGR should start doing the same for these press conferences. “blah blah blah Cheika said some BS that no-one will be interested in.”

  • donktec

    I was playing ping pong at lunch today, decided to change my intent to “win”. Damned if it didn’t make a difference!
    (note: use mild sarcasm font)

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Bahahahawahaha

  • Hoss

    If that’s was the criteria us Gold fans would have an intravenous drip inserted for the match…………..save the stress on the elbow.

  • Bakkies

    Now now dropping the soap jokes aren’t pc.

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