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Wednesday’s Rugby News looks at Hunt’s compassion for his suspended teammate, the Waratahs excitement for their new stadium, the Brumbies facing Super Rugby’s road trip from hell, and a young gun’s injury leaves the Reds at crisis point.


Hunt feeling for Folau

Karmichael Hunt Waratahs v Reds 2019 (Credit Keith McInnes)

Waratahs centre Karmichael Hunt has opened up about his support for his close friend Israel Folau, calling the situation “sad.”

Hunt and Folau have shared similar career paths, being the only two men to have played three codes professionally, along with both men embroiled in controversy during their rugby union stints, with Hunt having been suspended and then released by the Reds for cocaine possession.

Whilst not sharing similar views to his former Bronco, Maroons and now Waratah teammate, Hunt feels empathetic to the situation that Folau finds himself in and has categorically stated that he will stand by him regardless of the outcome.

“It’s a sad situation,” Hunt said of the Folau issue. “I’ve got a personal connection with Izzy that’s gone back many years now, so to obviously see him in the position that he’s in – regardless of what his behaviours have caused – I still feel for him.”

“If anyone is in trouble or needs a hand, I’ll always want to put my hand out there and support them regardless but in terms of my personal beliefs, I’m going to leave it at that and just move forward.”

Hunt noted that the attention caused by Folau’s standing down and impending court case initially left the side shell-shocked, however, he believes that their performance against the Rebels showed that the side had found a positive mindset in its aftermath.

“Initially you have a pretty shell-shocked change room and I think that’s just a natural feeling to be had regardless of right or wrong because he is a teammate,” Hunt said.

“But the one thing about football…you need to be able to move on pretty quickly, regardless of if you have a 50-point loss to a team on the weekend or you lose a player like Israel. You’ve got to be able to look forward and worry about the week coming. That’s what the guys have been doing.”

“The performance on the weekend showed where the guys’ headspace is at. We’re worried about what we want to get out of this season and fulfilling our potential. I think the weekend just gone was a step in the right direction.”

Banking on new stadium fortune

The shift to BankWest will hopefully end scenes like this

The shift to BankWest will hopefully end scenes like this

Whilst on the Waratahs, this week marks the first time that rugby union is played on the new BankWest Stadium at Parramatta, which the side is eagerly anticipating.

The renovations of Allianz Stadium has forced the Waratahs to undertake the novel concept of a state team actually playing outside the capital city, having played games at Newcastle, Brookvale and the SCG.

Having played their majority of home games at the cricket ground, the shift out to Parramatta is a welcome change for fans, as the rectangular complexion of the stadium ensuring that the fans will no longer have to bring binoculars to see the action.

Waratahs captain Michael Hooper hopes that the move would hopefully be beneficial for fans and players alike, with all reports suggesting that a strong crowd is expected for the clash with the Sharks on Saturday.

“I’ve only seen photos (of the stadium) and looks amazing,” he said. “It looks amazing, looks fantastic, the field and the venue and just for the fans – they’ve had to be a bit wider on an oval field this year so good to get them a bit closer and get out to the west as well, be very good.”

The return to Parramatta marks a homecoming of some sorts for lock Jed Holloway, who played on the old stadium during his tenure for the Greater Sydney Rams in the NRC.

“I’m really excited, it looks unreal the stadium,” he said. “I’m a bit sad because I was a Greater Sydney Ram, we played at the old Parramatta Stadium, but I’m looking forward to getting out there and give it a go.”

Saturday will be the first of three matches that the Waratahs will take out to the stadium, ultimately acting as a litmus test for the Wallabies ahead of their World Cup farewell clash against Samoa in September.

Brumbies face road trip from hell

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After their grinding victory over the Stormers, the Brumbies are confident that they can continue the revival of their Super Rugby season, despite facing Super Rugby’s road trip from hell.

The Brumbies are looking to extend their two-game winning streak, however, they must overcome Super Rugby’s hardest road trip when they travel from South Africa to Argentina to face to Jaguares on Sunday morning.

Brumbies forward Murray Douglas was confident that the side could continue riding the wave of momentum, noting the confidence that the side had gained from their performance in Cape Town.

“We had confidence in the group and we had confidence in the team we put out. We knew if we put the performance together then we would get the result,” Douglas said.

“To come up to Cape Town and play the Stormers, we knew it was never easy. We’ll take a lot of confidence off the back of a huge defensive effort. We approached this game really well.”

The Brumbies will look to take a similar attitude and tactics into their clash with the Jaguares, who will desperate for a victory, as they sit just one point outside of the top 8.

“We go into Argentina with the exact same approach, we concentrate on ourselves and we put that effort on effort. If guys put everything out there, leaving everything on the field, then that is going to put us in a good place to get another win next week.”

“We prepared for it really well, so we will be using the same sort of tactics heading into Argentina against the Jaguares. We go into the game knowing we can put in another good performance.”

The Brumbies will be without a host of experience, with David Pocock (calf), Lachlan McCaffrey (knee) and Josh Mann-Rea (knee) already back in Canberra for treatment.

Reds winging it

Jack Hardy  Reds v Chiefs trial 2019 (photo credit: QRU Media/Brendan Hertel)

The Reds are facing a wing crisis, with scans set to confirm the end of the season for flyer Jack Hardy.

Hardy suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament during the side’s victory over the Sharks, which was his last game before he was set to star for Junior Wallabies in the Oceania Under-20s Championship.

The absence of Hardy will be a huge blow to the Junior Wallabies, who are set to face Japan in their first match on Friday on the Gold Coast, with coach Jason Gilmore and the side looking to go one step further than they did last year.

The injury could not have come at the worst time for the Reds, who are already missing Jordan Petaia (knee), Filipo Daugunu (broken forearm) and rookie squad member Will Eadie (knee).

This leaves Sefa Naivalu as the club’s only recognised winger, with the Reds expected to choose between Aidan Toua and Jock Campbell as his partner before the return of Daugunu in a month.

The injury to Hardy had an eerie sense of deja vu for the Reds physio, Cameron Lillicrap, who witnessed similar injuries at the same venue to Tim Horan and Jason Little during his own playing days in the 1994 Super 10 final.

“To be there in ‘94 and see Jack go down no more than 20m from where Tim and Jason did their knees was a strange feeling,” Lillicrap said.

The Reds arrived home from their South African adventure on Sunday, with the majority of the squad set to take their first bye week since the start of the comp as the perfect opportunity to rest up.

However, prop Taniela Tupou is set to ignore any suggestions of resting by the Reds and the Wallabies, indicating that he would prefer to play club rugby on the weekend in order to keep the rhythm of playing matches.

  • Adrian

    Thanks Nathan

    Yes, Hunt drew the short straw and did ok.

    Hard for Brums alright, especially as they are inconsistent despite their clear ability.

    Tahs will love this ground, and hopefully aren’t emotionally drained.

    I think Reds can cover the wing with Campbell, but I can’t wait for Petaia and Duaganu to return.

    They are great line breakers, and chances for the WC in my opinion, despite Duaganu not being the best tackler in the land!

    CFS might have to battle for a spot, but together they give Qld backline depth.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      I feel like the injuries are one of the main reasons that the team is inconsistent.

      We have been without our best player for the greater part of the season. I doubt any of the other teams would be consistent if Hooper, Kerevi or Genia were injured for most of the season.

      It is going to be a very tough match this weekend, and we are unlikely to win. But if we do, then we have a very good draw until the end of the season. The season could turn on this weekend.

      • AllyOz

        I was going to question your comment until I read the names on the list. I wonder if the Reds would have won any games without Kerevi, NSW are a completely different side without Hooper and a Rebels side without Genia haven’t performed well (even when he is off for part of a game). So yes, the Brumbies with Pocock playing every game may well have performed substantially better. The Brumbies board better send the invoice for losses and lower crowds to Cheika – he will have to sell his boombox to pay for it.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          What is controversial about saying a team will be less consistent without their best player?

        • Geoffro

          Not controversia but a bit of a confidence etdown for the payers covering for him. Sorry for missing etters my keyboard is packing it in

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I’ve been ecstatic by how the rest of the back row have raised to the challenge when our first choice 6, 7 and 8 have been injured. But as good as they are, none of them are Pocock.

        • AllyOz

          Nothing really controversial about it. But it is a 15 man game and when i first read your comment I thought teams should be able to cover for a single players absence but when you look at the key players in each of the other teams they are very pivotal to overall team performance. I think that might be a little revealing about our lack of depth though.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Hmm, I’m not convinced. The Crusaders looked pretty shit when Mo’unga was our (obviously, a lot of other things had been going on), and the Lions have looked a shadow of their former selves since Mostert left, and the Highlanders haven’t looked that great since Sopoaga left.

          The best player in a team just makes a huge difference I think.

    • idiot savant

      I think Daugunu is way back in the queue for Wallaby winger. Although I agree with you he is a reason to go to the rugby as he he is great to watch. I think Cheik will take Hodge, Korobete, Maddocks and Naivalu to Japan with Pulu on standby as injury cover. If CFS could pass he would be a bolter for Japan but he appears to have caught AAC’s disease.

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        I don’t think Daugunu is eligible. But he’s a genius attacking winger.

      • Adrian

        Your right about Duaganu idiot, he probably isn’t on the radar.

        Nonetheless, just for now I have the view that the selection process will be opened up a bit because of Johnson and O’Connor.

        In any case, the wingers mentioned are ok by me,…so long as the tactics match the players,….and I’m a bit optimistic about that too

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Nathan,
    Gee the Brumbies and Reds are being hit hard with injuries. Pity there wasn’t a competition around that could provide a backup to Super rugby.

    I still think that the NRC could do this and it makes more sense to grow this than it does to play a bastardised version of the game with teams no one has heard of. I think Perth would get more out of a good NRC competition than they ever will out of the current plans. I also think that if NSW doesn’t want to play then set it up without them but target Sydney West as the current competition there ignores that area.

    Feel for Hardy, he must be gutted on missing out on the U20’s.
    Regardless of how I feel on Folau, it’s good to hear someone supporting him as a person regardless of his beliefs. I think as time goes on he’ll need support and it seems everyone else is jumping on the hate bandwagon so we’ll done Hunt

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s. Ahhhhhh I love extended holiday weeks. Staying back up in God’s country whilst I prepare for ANZAC day tmw. A couple of days of non-drinking to clean my liver and kidneys before I try to kill them in one day! Salute to all of the other veterans out there! RESPECT! Speaking of respect:
    – Credit goes to K Hunt for standing up for a friend and colleague. All of the others have piled on due to either selfish positions or fear of contract negotiations. Etc etc Yet the pariah of the league has come out and shown sympathy, friendship and loyalty. He knows what it is like to be disowned. Yet is standing by Israel regardless of whether he has done the wrong thing or the right thing. I think a lot of the other players out there could learn something from KHUNT! Tip of the hat! Friends stand by you, thick and thin. They may kick you in the ass and get you back on track, but they stand by you.
    – My office over looks the new Parramatta stadium. I got taken for a tour of it by the Project Manager, who I know from a former life. Whilst it is a smaller stadium than a Suncorp, it is a really good set up, modern facilities. Easy to get to from public transport, and really doesn’t have a bad seat in it. Well done to all involved. I think RA should play more games there. You might get bigger crowds, then at the other stadiums where public transport is a night mare!
    – Shout at to KRL for his point about NRC. I reckon NRC should be our Mitre 10 cup / curry Cup. If farking NSWRU would get on board it would be complete. It is almost like anything they don’t suggest cant be good! There for they will not participate. Shute shield is not the answer.
    – Brumbies do have a hard road home. And if the injury curse hadn’t hit them so hard they might be in a better position.
    – Speaking of hard injury tolls, the Reds look like the run home for them this year is going to be hard, with the toll of injury. Especially with their baby squad.
    Over to you GAGRs

    • IIPA

      In fairness it’s really only Phipps and Cheika who have given him the full heave-ho. Foley and Genia mixed both criticism, empathy and some fair points I thought whilst you could tell Hooper was talking through gritted teeth at that presser and didn’t want to say too much.

      Looking forward to hit BankWest this Sat night but alas only over-priced mid strength commercial swill in the beer taps apparently.

      • Brisneyland Local

        To be honest I think it is the way it was done. You dont hear KHunt hooking into him. Then saying positive things or faint praise. He just is open and honest. The others and I include Genia in this, have said some pretty horrible things. Nothing about Izzy is my friend, or we are here for Izzy. Christ in Hoopers case, he is the Captain of the team. He should have been and seen Izzy in person. That is what a leader does! Yes they may have said what they said through gritted teeth. but they said it. The response to NSWRU should have been you want someone else to dance to yur tune, buy another monkey!
        Dont get me worng, I tihk what Izzy said was stupid, and the results predictable. But there have been members of the Wallabies and the Tahs that have done worse things, and everybody stood by them.

        • Bernie Chan

          Yeh…Hunt did a lot better in the way he spoke about the Izzy intrigue…we all have mates who have effed up occasionally, and one doesn’t have to agree with a mate on everything. The rest seem to be dancing to the RA music box…too keen to please their paymaster?
          The NSWRU must start taking the NRC seriously…the Shute Shield is amateur club rugby, and there’s a need for another step up in quality and intensity ( must have galled the NSWRU powerbrokers when GPS beat Sydney Uni in the Club Championship game…) for players aspiring to play Super Rugby.

        • Brisneyland Local

          BC, 100% agree.
          NRC has to be the understudy / underpinning competition to SR going forward.

          Re Hunt. I think through his life’s journey, he has learnt a few more life skills and some EQ!

        • AllyOz

          I have stood up for Cheika on this website – i still don’t really like him being referred to as an ass clown – as much because it disrespects the position as much as the man but his comments in particular around the Israel Folau case really irked me – fine, disagree with him, disagree with his point of view. However, this is a young man you have been responsible for coaching and mentoring for four years, who you claim being a big part of the responsibility from securing him when he was headed back to league (Parra virtually had him signed although within an extremely elastic salary cap). So don’t disrespect him or have an expression on your face when you are talking about him like you are picking up a piece of dog sh&t. Hooper looked as if he was forced into saying something (though may not have had the decency to sit down with him as you suggest) but Cheika – to me – looked as if he was taking it as an opportunity to virtue signalling – so he’s an ass clown.

        • Brisneyland Local

          AllyOz, I have always at the beggining of any new coach, or new leader of any organisation given them the benefit of the doubt. The position earns a degree of respect, the individual then has to earn it from the masses.
          Cheika disrespected his own position and himself by behaving appalling as our national coach. Swearing, carrying on, blaming referumps, smashing things in the coaches box. The way he talks in interviews and the way he addresses players during those interview.
          I think I label him fairly, and I think now you as well see him through a different lens. we just got there via different routes.

        • AllyOz

          Well tbh I always got the disrespectful behaviour bit, that always irked me but i did think he had a good coaching record and that couldn’t be a complete accident. I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt for a lot longer than many others and used the example of a Craig Bellamy who is equally loose in the box (though certainly very contained and calm and respectful in the media so probably not a good comparison). I never like culling coaches so close to an event like the next RWC. I don’t think we would gain anything by it and we would potentially sacrifice a new coach by doing it – or even worse if they have a lucky run like Cheika lock ourselves into another four years with a bloke who has yet to demonstrate that this commitment is deserved. But there is a very large part of me who is just looking forward to watching the RWC for the rugby in general and isn’t particularly concerned how we go just waiting for it to all be over so we can get back to doing things properly again.

        • Brisneyland Local

          AllyOz I think I am with you. I am looking forward to the post-Cheika era!

        • Patrick

          Craig Bellamy. My God what I would give to have him as head coach!

        • Parker

          Once again I will say it is never too late to start improving, which is exactly what would happen the moment Cheika stops being coach/selector. The Wallabies are bleeding out under his rule. The flow has to be staunched sooner than later otherwise an anemic team will enter the RWC. And if the worst case scenario that you envisage happens where the new coach stumbles, I’d rather sacrifice a single coach than the entire team and the hopes of a nation. Stop with this ‘it’s too close to the WC to change’. It’s not as if they’re practising the withdrawal method and it’s too late to pull out.

        • AllyOz

          Fair enough Parker – I just don’t think any coach – certainly not anyone who is available a few months out from the RWC – will be able to substantially improve anything. I also think RA needs this loss. We need to be bundled out in the quarter finals or the pool stage for the game to finally face up to the challenges that are confronting it. Cheika is a problem but he is certainly not the only problem with what is happening in the game. There were major issues during both Robbie Deans and Ewen McKenzie’s coaching period with how the game is being coached (at the levels below), developed and administered. I happen to be in the Alan Jones camp on some of this (ironic to be using Alan Jones and camp in the one sentence perhaps) and I think there is a need for a root and branch renewal at RA and a move away from the current administration, a breakdown of some of the entrenched positions that restrict rugby’s growth potential and a fresh look at coaching development so that we are, once again, producing some of the best coaches in the world and not in a situation again where we have 3 of 4 coaching positions in Super Rugby filled by foreign coaches and no clear pathway to the Wallabies job.

          Cheika’s finals appearance in 2015 allow him breathing space he, with the value of retrospect, clearly didn’t earn but it also allowed an extremely poor administration to coast for a couple more years. I have personally had enough of the virtue signalling and corporate speak.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Cheika was pretty qualified in his comments. Said that as things stood now, he couldn’t pick him. Didn’t say anything about Folau being a bad personality or permanently out of the picture.

        • AllyOz

          I thought his comments in the Leigh Sales interview were less supportive. He talked about Folaus comments being a distraction from the team and from Cheika doing his work and painted Folau as anti team for that reason. Now I would agree that Folau was perhaps naive if he didn’t expect a reaction after the first reaction however I think he felt by broadening things out beyond specifically gay comments he was ding that. Anyway I don’t think any post he makes is intended to damage the Wallabies. Also if Cheika can’t focus on what he is supposed to be doing a few months out from the RWC then he shouldn’t be doing the job. All he needed to say was we will wait until the process is completed but that he didn’t publicly endorse his comments. Interview over move on.

          I do think RA would have been better just suspending him immediately from all forms, launching the review and the code of conduct hearing and THEN looking at termination of the contract. It’s not a huge point but they moved to the nuclear option immediately when I think following a process that gave Folau the opportunity to response might have been a better option even though the end result may be exactly the same

        • GO THE Q REDS

          100% agree. . and it may turn out to be a 4mill mistake on their part and a huge jump of the gun judgement call by Cheika! They should all have been impartial till the fact…

        • Parker

          Good on you for expanding your view. I must say that it is Cheika’s incumbency that disrespects the position more than any term of contempt applied to him.

    • idiot savant

      I heard a rumour that the Shute Shield honchos are talking to the Brisbane Premier League honchos about an interstate club competition to replace the NRC.

      • Brisneyland Local

        IS I have heard the same rumour, and that is what concerns me. They would rather see the NRC fail then participate in it. Ignoramousess

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Wasn’t it RA that decided not to support the clubs and then started the NRC instead?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Not sure. BUt I would rather see a national feeder comp into the SR , with club rugby feeding that.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Without knowing all the details I would have thought both the SA Curry cup and NZ mitre 10 cup or whatever they’re called at the moment would be ideal setups to follow. That would mean use the natural architecture of the existing clubs, boost them, fund them and use theyre loyal fan base to grow those clubs. Too me there’s allready too much sport saturation in Aus as it is too squeeze in a fresh new championship that is and was always going to struggle a tad.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I agree. That model works. But NSWRU wont sign up to it. They wont sign up to anything that they dont have power of veto over.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Really? How fucked up can these people be?

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Mate 100% behind you on Hunt. Loyalty is something to be valued and there’s not a lot out there

      • Brisneyland Local

        Mate as we always used to do. Critiscise in private, praise in public.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          How about just try and be a nice person and do the right thing?

          I think it’s perfectly fair to disagree with Folau and even condemn his words if one disagrees that strongly with them, but he’s still a person who deserves as much compassion and empathy as the next one.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I agree with that. But some of the things said by his team mates were a bit further! I just think surprisingly Hunt showed a lot of maturity in his approach!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          absolutely mate. I think he is completely wrong and actually feel sorry that he is so insular. I also think in the years to come he’s going to regret how he expressed himself. But regardless of that he is still a human who deserves to be treated better than he has been by some.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Exactly and I’m the opposite…. I believe he is completely right and feel sorry for those without strong hope and values to follow! But agree he’ll regret his means of expression.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Yeah the biggest thing that’s missing is the respect of his own opinion and beliefs! I’m half surprised people like Thorn and the Islander players aren’t banned because their Christian beliefs don’t line up with Atheists, Board members and Daffodils.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Have they sent out that reference yet?

      • Brisneyland Local

        Not yet. Will shoot him an email. Lazy public servants!

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I honestly would be surprised if you get a ‘discrimination is wrong and potentially against the law’ email, rather than any really specific points of law, as for all the research I did online I couldn’t find anything that indicated it was actually illegal in NSW, although I stand to be corrected. It’ll be interesting to see.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I work with AG’s a lot. They are actually one of the better NSW govt dept’s. The rest of them are utter shite. And I know that have worked with a fair few of them. scary.

  • AllyOz

    Good on Taniela Tupou for taking some responsibility for his own preparation and condition and recognising that a game of club rugby was better than a full rest (and also Brothers aren’t playing my club, GPS, this week so I am happy for him to play just as long as he stays injury free).

    I wonder if these resting for games is really the best way to manage players workloads. For the front rowers, most are playing 30-50 minutes a game anyway. The travel probably needs to be managed. I would rather see, for instance, rather than Cooper (actually not sure he is on the “resting” list or Foley sat on the bench for a week with a Mack Mason starting the game or taken off at half time rather than given the full week away. Perhaps they could look at overall minutes, resting for four halves and travel rather than saying rest for two games.

    • idiot savant

      Its a good sign from Thor as his form has been lukewarm this season. His workrate is poor, tackle count low, and I cant remember too many strong carries. Scrum work mostly good. He is behind AAA and Kepu atm and will struggle to make the plane to Japan unless his workrate improves so good on him for keeping his conditioning up.

      • Nutta

        I think that’s a tad harsh on the yungfella. But I well agree with the central idea of keep working and not sitting on a bench eating pies.

        • idiot savant

          Cruel but fair, as one of my mentors used to tell me. Thor could be the best tight head in the land but work rate has always been his challenge. He made half as many tackles as Hoopert last week and as the kiwis have shown us for many years, if you can get a high tackle count out of your front row, you can afford the luxury of a wide running loose forward (like Read).

        • Nutta

          Yeh but… it’s also the thin edge of the wedge towards winding up back in Dunning-esque country. Meat & potato’s first Boy; scrum, lineout and kick-off. All else is gravy.

        • Singapore Sling

          TT’s problem is he tries to involve himself in every ruck and movement for the first 10-20 minutes he’s on the field. He burns too hot early then fizzles out fast. He needs to manage his bulk to suit the game and maximise his contribution.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I don’t. I think he needs to stop trying to be the You Tube sensation and apply himself to be a good prop. Stop all the showy stuff and just knuckle down, get fit and prove he’s as good as he and others think he may be.

        • Nutta

          It’s starting to sound like I have a man-crush on the guy but I reckon he has been TOLD to focus and fix his scrumming so that has been his clear focus this year. I reckon his ‘gravy’ will pick up once he has ‘ticked the box’ of establishing himself as a fair-dinkum No3 as it is where he is naturally strong. After years of seeing fat-back-rowers in No1&3 jerseys it is a situation I take comfort in. But anyway, time will tell.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          To be fair I think if he gets his shit together he will be a very very good player. Just needs to grow up I think

      • AllyOz

        He has been a bit up and down and the Smith brothers have deservedly got ahead of him a Super level which doesn’t make it easy for him to compete for a Wallabies spot but at least he has the self-discipline and fortitude to recognise that and to do his best to play his way back into some form.

  • Yowie

    Missed opportunity to re-surface Parramatta stadium in Reflex A4

    (because the Waratahs lineup is usually better on paper)

    • Brisneyland Local

      Pure gold Yowie

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Bahahawahaha that’s brilliant

  • Brisneyland Local

    Ladies and gnets dont often plug another sites articles, but in view of last weekends dreadful kickfest I thought I would share this article with you!

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/04/24/why-the-wallabies-will-be-kicking-themselves-in-2019/

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Not a bad article. I don’t agree with all his technical stuff but he did do a lot of work brining it together and has some good points. I think we need to simplify it. Short kicks need to be contested, Long kicks need to go to space and/or be for field gain – they also need to have a chaser applying pressure to the receiver, high kicks need to be contested. If you can’t kick accurately then don’t. If you can’t kick long enough to gain ground then don’t. If you’re in a position where you should be able to kick but can’t then bloody well get help and practice until you can, or change position.

      • Bernie Chan

        Hang on mate…that means Spanners shouldn’t kick…
        Even in league, the old adage is similar. A kick is only as good as the chase…clearly Oz sides have a lot of work to do in this sphere. Our kick-offs don’t create much pressure either.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Your paragraph is about the most common sense approach to kicking I have heard. You have summarised it perfectly..

      • GO THE Q REDS

        So ban Foley from kicking is what your saying…. …50% kick success rate is not great!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Or maybe he should get some lessons and do some practice. I refuse to believe he can’t get better if he practices

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Oh I agree, when you have a game kicking at 50% success rate….. there’s not really much chance he can do worse!
          Do the Tahs not have a kicking coach? I would have thought they allready did. Not that I think I Wallaby veteran should need a kicking coach for mostly basic kicking duties!

    • Bernie Chan

      After watching some of David Alred’s explanations, it becomes very obvious that some of our pro rugby players have serious mechanical flaws. He explains it so well, and it is a surprise that his expertise isn’t more widely accessed by our senior coaches.

      • Brisneyland Local

        You see I completely agree. We have serious flaws in our skills. From what I am hearing, like Bernie Larkham, Mick the Kick is on the outside in Club Cheika! It is all about traing harder and be more agressive. Nothing to do with skills development. Infact he was told to leave Foley’s kicking alone!
        I think the Wallabies should be bringing Alred on as a consultant. But I am sure Cheika wont.

        • Bernie Chan

          Foley’s technique should be analysed and used as THE example of what not to do….

        • Brisneyland Local

          Concur.

    • From NooZealand

      Excellent article (though too technical for me). Thank you for sharing this.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yeah I dont usually read the ROAR because it is full of vitiolic shit. But Nicholas Bishop’s articles are definitely worth reading. He is a fantatstic analyst who has worked with numerous international teams. He knows his shit.

        • Parker
        • Brisneyland Local

          Pure gold.

        • Who?

          Hey – I was going to PM you through the forum, but you don’t seem to be listed in there..? I don’t post there, but do have capacity to PM/DM there (as ‘Who?’). I’m writing in this old thread now to reduce visibility…….

        • Brisneyland Local

          Who, I wouldn’t have a clue how to DM. Let me know and I will. Or put up an email address I will contact u and then you can delete it from the post

        • Who?

          Ah, but you replied to this, so I’m guessing that means you received an email from Disqus. So I can just post an email here, and immediately edit the post to remove it, and you should have the email… I’m hoping.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep that works

  • onlinesideline

    definitely one of your better ones baa baa

  • Hoss

    Morning all.

    Back in the bosom of the Hunter Valley and loving it.

    Would like to say to Briz, KRL, OLSL, Custard Taht and all service men and women – thank you for your service and dedication to our countries. I am feee to esport copious amounts of drivel and shite because of the service and sacrifices of you and all the brave men and women who came before, who serve now and will serve long after.

    The things that will always unite us will always be stronger than those that divide us (one cheating rugby nation to the East of us)

    From my family, past, present and future generations, thank you, it’s a sacrifice I can’t thank you for enough.

    Lest we forget.

    • Damo19

      Ditto to all that Hoss.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Thanks old chap. I cant speak for the others, but I served to ensure that we could dribble shit like this! ;-)

      • Timbo

        its a fine tradition particularly as we that do serve, are the best at dribbling shit.

        • Brisneyland Local

          We can verbally tap dance like Fred Astaire!

        • Timbo

          particularly when cold, wet, hungry and tired, out in some shithole field or bushland in clothes that haven’t been changed in weeks. its amazing really.

        • Brisneyland Local

          And havnt poo’ed in 6 days cause you are bunged up on rat packs!

        • Parker

          The fact that we can dribble shit up a steep incline in the face of enemy fire is what distinguishes our mettle and grit.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Thanks Hoss. appreciate the comments

    • From NooZealand

      Thank you Hoss and totally embrace your sentiments. As for the cheating rugby nation to the East, yeah the Uruguay rugby team is really bad.

      • Hoss

        Masters in the dark arts those Uruguayans. Don’t even get me started on that 7 of theirs Ricardo De La Cruze De Santos Martinez St McCaw……..

        • From NooZealand

          We have loved this Ricardo de la Cruz ….at home. Gold.

    • Happyman

      Well said

  • sambo6

    Quite a few comments below praising hunt for sticking up for his mate. And suggesting some others (phipps, genia etc) didnt stand up for their mate.

    I totally agree. You should support your mate publically, even if he’s been a complete bell-end.

    But…..not everyone that you work with is your mate….you might get on okay with someone and have respect for them professionally, doesnt make them your mate….in that context, (and if thats the case), then I think some of the other comments are fine….

    • sambo6

      just to add, I played in many teams which were great teams and we all got on – had some great times and great games. But wouldn’t call everyone in those teams a good mate – usually anyone with a number 9 or above on their back…bunch of fucken’ pretty boys……but I digress:)

    • Brisneyland Local

      I agree but in previous videos when Izzy is playing well, they are calling him a great mate. So hard to know what the truth is. But the reality is you really find out who your mates are, when the going gets tough.

      • sambo6

        totally agree. I use myself as an example. Few years ago, was flying high professionally, and many ‘mates’ in my industry said that we ‘need to find a way to work together’ blah blah blah. Then Sambo6 took time off to be a stay at home dad and teach his boys the building blocks to be furture wallabies. Then when I wanted to re-enter the working world (after 2 years out) you can imagine how many of those ‘mates’ (including some ‘mates’ I actually gave a ‘leg-up’ to myself when they were starting out) could actually be fucked to lift a finger/make a call/put in a good word…..

        not fucking many.

        In anycase, Im back in business now, but with a few former ‘mates’ on my sh!tlist:)

        • Greg

          Good luck with the job hunting.

          Your time at home with your boys is something you will treasure.

        • sambo6

          thanks. Got a decent job back doing what I used to do, so thats all in the past. Just my grudge remains:)

          but yep, time with boys was more than worth a tough job hunt!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Absolutely. Good on you for taking that time off. Yep you know the ones that stick are the ones worth keeping.
          I had a similar experience, and the guys i thought would stand by me didnt. A couple of the ones that did surprised me, but I still mates with them. The others? Not just on my shit list, I cried havoc and let slip the dogs! revenge best served cold.

      • joy

        I doubt that Izzy regards this as tough going. Tossing the baby out with the bath water comes to mind.

    • joy

      Unless you live west of Sydney CBD in which case everybody is mate including women, with the exception of those women raised west of eastern Broken Hill

  • Greg

    Someone posted a tweet re Mr Horwill submitting a thesis a while back.

    For info… he has graduated https://twitter.com/jhorwill/status/1103359875042734080

    Congrats to him.

  • Halle Powell

    Great article

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