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Wednesday’s Rugby News looks at Dave Rennie’s break from coaching tradition, the ominous warning from the Brumbies, Liam Wright’s surprise reaction to last week’s narrow loss and the bold message that the Waratahs will look to send against the Reds.


North of the border

dave rennie

Not contempt with being a Kiwi, Dave Rennie is set to break further tradition as he becomes just the 2nd Wallabies coach in almost four decades to make his base in Queensland.

Rennie will look to distance himself from the Mosman mafia and head for the sunshine state once his two week hotel quarantine period ends.

He told the Sydney Morning Herald that the decision was made in order to link up with wife’s family along with the rest of the coaching staff, who are based in southeast Queensland and northern NSW.

“I want to make sure Steph has plenty of support around her. I’ve got a couple of sisters in Queensland, we’ve got lots of family, a lot of our coaching group is up there as well so their partners as well, and it made sense,” Rennie said.

“No doubt I’ll still spend a bit of time in Sydney but ensuring that Steph was going to have plenty of support around her when I’m not around was important.

“We’re going to rent for a little while and then buy, so somewhere between Brisbane and Gold Coast.”

The former Glasgow boss isn’t concerned about the so-called ‘history’ behind turning down a Sydney stay, suggesting that it won’t matter when you consider the intense domestic and international travel that the role requires.

“I’m going to spend a lot of time away from home,” Rennie said.

“For half the year you’re playing international footy and travelling and then for the other half of the year my plan is to get around and have a presence in Super Rugby, so a lot of time away from home.”

Interestingly, the only coach that is set to based outside of Queensland is the expected forwards coach Dan McKellar.

Whilst he hasn’t been confirmed yet, it is expected that the Brumbies boss will be confirmed in the position throughout the coming weeks, staying in the nation’s capital as he performs double duties.

Bank on it

Tom Banks, hit and spin.

Tom Banks, hit and spin.

Brumbies fullback Tom Banks has sent an ominous warning to the rest of the competition, suggesting that the comp leaders are yet to hit full stride.

As we enter the reverse legs of the Super Rugby Australian competition, the boys from ACT are the only team that remains undefeated, with a late Mack Hansen penalty goal last week maintaining their perfect run so far.

Whilst the Australian fullback suggests that the side will take confidence out of their record, he still believes that they are yet to play their best football.

“Obviously a lot of confidence,” Banks told media when asked about their perfect record.

“We probably haven’t played our best footy yet so looking at the second round of this competition and again this week, we’re going to try to find some more attacking shape and really try to put some good phases together so we can build towards that finals competition.

“You’re not going to play you best footy every game but those tough games in cold nights, you need to just grind out a victory and we did that really well.”

With the Brumbies preparing for a trip to Leichhardt Oval to face the Rebels, Banks is preparing for an 80+ minute performance against a side that is all too familiar with ‘Super Time’.

“Every time we play them it’s a really, really physical game and we know they’re going to bring that so it’s about stepping up and aiming up physically to stop their go-forward,” he said.

“It starts with their forward pack – they’ve got some really strong ball carriers so we need to nullify that and then in the backs, Matt Toomua is playing some really good footy testing out the opposition backline so we’re going to have our hands full.”

Wright reaction

Liam Wright goes for the try QLD Reds v NSW Waratahs 2020 Photo Credit QRU Brendan Hertel

After their narrow loss to the Brumbies, many would expect the Reds to be gutted as the ACT side jubilantly celebrated the last-gasp victory.

However, Reds captain Liam Wright believes that the ‘grand-final like’ celebration from the Brumbies after the match shows that they are on the right track and serious contenders.

“It shows for us the respect they have for us that we’re a good team and it takes a lot to beat us,” Wright said.

“It’s a bit of a token that we can us that teams are pretty stoked to beat us and we’re not just easy beats anymore. It takes a long hard 80-minute battle to get that result.

“For us, it’s still round four, we’ll save that celebration until the end of the season.

“We’ve got to put together more consistent performances, and have a few more games to rectify that…for us, it’s not crunch time just yet.”

As they prepare for a trip south of the (Tweed) border against their natural rivals in the Waratahs, Wright admits that they need to work on their discipline and line-out if they wish to secure the double over the Tahs.

“Our defence held really strong, which was a positive for us, but we didn’t restrict their (the Brumbies’) game plan,” he said.

“We had a must-win (lineout) ball at the end which we lost, and just gave them another opportunity to win the game.”

With the fly in, fly out nature of the competition, it made for a ‘weird’ trip home after they were forced to share a flight and bus with referee Nic Berry, with Wright playing down any animosity.

“It is a bit weird flying in and out with the refs, and that’s just part and parcel of this fly in-fly out stuff,” Wright said.

“We have a little joke with them afterwards but it was fine. Everyone’s got a job to do, and they did theirs.

“Bez is a good fella. I thought his interaction with me was really respectful.”

Forget mate against mate

Jake Gordon box kicks from scrum Waratahs v Rebels 2019 (Credit Keith McInnes)

That’s the message being floated out of the NSW camp as they look to turn around their season heading into the final five rounds of the competition.

After a hot and fiery opening round clash, NSW halfback Jake Gordon is expecting a similar slugfest when they host the Reds on Saturday at the SCG.

Whilst Gordon was still on the mend for the 32-26 loss five weeks ago, it allowed him to have a front-row seat to the intense contest, with a series of flare-ups and scuffles setting the tone for an electric Super Rugby Australia competition.

Couple that with a public and private spray after their last game loss to the Rebels, and Gordon is expecting a fired-up Tahs outfit to take it to their northern rivals.

“It’s not a great relationship between the Waratahs and the Reds and this week we’ve really ramped up the contact,” he said.

I definitely think after that first game, the fire’s in the belly,

“We’ve seen at training this week the boys are really ready to go and excited to put on a really good performance.

“There was a lot of feeling in that game. They’d lost 10 in a row so I guess it was time they got their win under the belt but for us we probably, after reviewing that game, was probably a little bit of heat in that game and we’re looking to bring in this match definitely this time we play them.”

The main priority for the Waratahs across the break has been their effort in defence, with their impressing running numbers not stacking up on the scoreboard.

“We’re obviously talking about not working hard enough,” Gordon said.

“Our running numbers, from what I’ve been told, are superior to other Super Rugby teams.

“It’s almost like a mental lapse where we’re waiting for something to happen rather than focusing more on yourself and doing your best role in the team, whether that be getting back on side or making that tackle, making a conscious effort to get out of the way.”

  • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

    Well, I for one am happy to hear that the Stahs trained well this week, music to my ears and nothing inspires confidence in their performance more.

    • Keith Butler

      Yeah. Heard the same from the Rabbles camp. They gave the tackle bags hell.

    • Crescent

      I was kind of heartened to hear that Penney is giving them a spray about their performances, and took something away from the statement that they are aware they are not working hard enough and they need to do their jobs first. Now fellas, time to stop talking about it and start doing something about it…..

      • Reds Revival

        Exactly. Enough talking!! It’s time to call an immediate meeting to document all of the things that need doing, to then be ratified by the Coaching Staff and then voted on by the Board.

    • Isn’t it interesting how the same phrase from a different mouth inspires such different reactions?

      Just about every time the former Wallabies head coach said it, it was met with cries of derision. Possibly not from you in fairness, but from the greater proportion of commenters here. Now you hear it from the coach of the Tahs and it fills you with hope!

      I’m not suggesting that’s misplaced at all btw, it just struck me how things have changed.

  • ATrain

    Rennie really rocks the beanie. I think he has just chosen Qld because, after four years in Glasgow, he just wants to thaw out.

    From Banksy

    “You’re not going to play you best footy every game but those tough games in cold nights, you need to just grind out a victory and we did that really well.”

    I know that TV money pays all the bills but, in an ideal situation, one of our

    if we move to a 6 team comp it would be good if we had 1 Friday night, 1 Saturday night and a Sunday arvo game with the Brums getting that when they play at home

    • Yowie

      Roy & HG have been banging-on most weeks about their 6th Aussie Super Rugby team – the Rural & Regional Australia Anzacs (with players wearing their home-made jerseys and everything) – and chastising Rugby Australia for not returning their calls about including the team.

      • Nutta

        I regularly still play in an old cotton club jersey, cotton shorts and I even have a pair of woolen weave socks.

        • Keith Butler

          And jockstraps as well. Those were the days.

        • Nutta

          Never worn the jockey. They look bloody uncomfortable.

        • Keith Butler

          They were but mind you I played back in the day when the only alternative was woollen budgie smugglers which tended to sag a bit when wet.

        • Nutta

          Damn. There’s an image I could have done without.

        • Keith Butler

          Fear not Nutta. As you may have guessed this was a slight fib. Woollen bathers went out of fashion in the late 50s. Still didn’t prevent my mother, god bless her, kitting me out in a pair when I was a young kid. Embarrassingly saggy when wet.

        • Nutta

          Still got them?

  • Jason

    From everyone I’ve spoken to who is involved with the top level of Rugby in Australia have said their are two camps ‘the Sydney Old Boyz Club’ and anyone else. Hopefully this move can put a bit of distance between the aptly named ‘Mosman mafia’ and Rennie. Plus depending onif the fabled Ballymore redevelopment if ever done that would be a pretty ideal place to base your Wallabies training camps out of etc. So setting the precedent is a good move if only for the next coach.

    It’s not as if the Wallabies have anything in Sydney that couldn’t be replicated elsewhere anyway. So it’s only really been that Sydney-centric ARU/Rugby Australia that’s keep the Wallabies Coaches based in Sydney.

    • Nutta

      Regarding Renster not living in Mosman or east of Anzac Pde, I reckon it’s great. He’s going somewhere where it supports his family best. Given the time spent away from home that is sensible stuff. It sends the right message about doing what is right as opposed to what is expected. Plus inclusivity over exclusivity can only help our game in this country.

      • Yowie

        ….inclusivity over exclusivity can only help our game in this country.

        Well, to a point. I propose a “Spoken Grammar Entry Exam” for any League players wanting to play Union. Eg.

        Q1. Select the correct method of attracting the attention of a group:

        (a) “Can I have your attention please chaps”

        (b) “Hey youse!”

        Q2. Which is the appropriate way to describe something as comparatively superior:

        (a) “That’s the better one” (if a choice between two, otherwise “That’s the best one”)

        (b) “Yeah-nah that one’s more better”

        • ATrain

          I think, as a fluent speaker of Loig, you will find that it’s “more betterer” not “more better”

        • Yowie

          Good point. Better leave a space on the multi-choice test for the applicant to write their own option (c).

        • ATrain

          you are presuming that most of us can write – I only when I starting playing Rah Rah obviously. Could you have some sort of voice to text facility in the online form that allows for translation and different accents based on how many teeth are remaining

        • Yowie

          I never realised how complicated sports administration really was. I take back any criticism of the ARU, IRB (under whatever names) I’ve made over the years.

        • Who?

          Where’s the ‘NFOS’ after this post? That’s extremely logical, Yowie. :-)

        • Nutta

          You left out “He done good”, “He run hard” and “For d Boiz”

    • ATrain

      I think there are probably a few more camps than just Mossman versus the rest honestly

      • Jason

        I’d say they are more factions of the same cams than separate camps.

  • Yowie

    Dave Rennie … becomes just the 2nd Wallabies coach in almost four decades to make his base in Queensland.

    Is Bob Dwyer the other one?

    • ATrain

      I imagine it was that relatively short stint from Mr Connolly

      • Yowie

        If John Connolly was 2006-2007, it seems unnecessarily cryptic to talk about “almost four decades” as the time period.

        Bob Templeton (last stint 1982) was a Qld boy, so perhaps that’s the answer?

        • ATrain

          I think he says 2nd in almost for decades – Connolly being the first and then back to Bob – which does seem a long time between drinks for the area that provides 30-40% of all players. however, they had McKenzie who came from Qld to the Wallabies job but moved to Sydney (but is a Victorian) and before that was Robbie who moved from NZ to Sydney

        • Yowie

          Nathan – any clues mate?

        • Nathan Williamson

          According to SMH, Connolly was the last to be based in QLD, with every other coach before Templeton based in NSW.

        • Yowie

          So it’s Templeton, then Connolly then Rennie?

        • ATrain

          I found a handy list on Wiki with each coach and their winning percentage

          Bob Templeton 1971–1973; 1976; 1979–1982 (44.8%)
          David Brockhoff 1974–1975; 1979 (46.6%)
          Daryl Haberecht 1978 60.0%
          Bob Dwyer 1982–1983; 1988–1995 (63.0%)
          Alan Jones 1984–1987 (70.0%)
          Greg Smith 1996–1997 (63.2%)
          Rod Macqueen 1997–200 (79.1%)
          Eddie Jones 2001–2005 (57.9%)
          John Connolly 2006–2007 (64.0%)
          Robbie Deans 2008–2013 (58.6%)
          Ewen McKenzie 2013–2014 (50.0%)
          Voldermort 2014–2019 (50.0%)
          Dave Rennie 2019–present (100% or 0%)

          With the exception of Templeton (Q), Connolly (Q), McKenzie (V) and Deans (NZ) they are all NSWelshman – well all really Sydney people with the possible exception of Daryl Haberecht who coached NSW Country and unfortunately had a heart attack after just one year in the job. The reports I have read say he was the most successful NSW Country coach and that they were our best provincial coach at the time but I can’t find anywhere saying where he was from (but my guess would be Newcastle).

        • ATrain

          Although Alan Jones is technically a Queenslander or Queensland born at least

        • Yowie

          Can we swap him for Rod Macqueen?

        • ATrain

          sure I swapped the Waratahs for the Reds as a supporter

        • Who?

          Given (as he regularly proclaimed) the town he was born in no longer exists (it’s now a coal mine), it’s debatable. :-P
          Though he was a Toowoomba Grammar boy (like Jason Little), and I think he may have briefly taught there, too?

        • Andy

          Lucky boys…..

        • Hoss

          I saw Mr Jones ‘hanging out’ in an English bathroom once………….

        • Yowie

          Are you sure it was him? It’s usually hard to tell who it is through those holes that get cut in the stall divider walls….

        • Hoss

          There are so many poor taste jokes that go with that I am using every bit of restraint I have not to use them. My brain is aching. I feel like a fat kid in the candy store but with no money…….

        • Yowie

          Agreed. We’ll leave that one there.
          Ironically, if such restraint didn’t exist, there would be no frisson about skirting close to the limits of good taste.
          With a similar irony, the last thing a drug dealer wants/needs is for his product to be legalised.

        • Hoss

          Yep, stolen cookies always taste better.

        • formerflanker

          How do I say this to a bunch of rugby aficionados whose rugby thoughts I respect, laugh at, and have read for quite a long time? With care.
          Your anti-Jones posts remind me of the physical bashings of homosexuals in the 1970s.
          Poor taste, innuendo and nudge-nudge-wink-wink throwaway lines are used to attack Jones in a society which has accepted the lifestyle you hint at. We accept gay marriage yet you disparage his alleged sexuality.
          His politics are acceptable targets to support criticism of him yet we are all here to talk rugby. Israel Folau was booted out of Australian rugby for apparent disparagement of homosexuals yet the same vibe is present amongst the anti-Jones brigade here.

          Banter on this site is terrific but the one-way traffic against Jones, especially when homosexual slurs are used, is (as you may have guessed) irritating me.

        • Yowie

          It’s a fair issue to raise in my opinion and I thought about it before your comment appeared. However to my mind there is space for fair criticism where the person or institution maintains a fire & brimstone conservative public position on a bully pulpit yet, allegedly, engages in hypocritical conduct privately.

          It’s a common enough phenomenon – take your pick of current and historical international examples, I’ll start with the abundance of demonstrable homosexually-inclined child abusers in the Catholic church.

          Opinions will differ on this, but I’m comfortable that today’s chatter hasn’t crossed the line from “loudmouth bully is allegedly a hypocrite according to an award-winning book” into “gay people are bad” or even “gay people are worthy of ridicule”.

        • formerflanker

          Hoss, Yowie: Thanks for your considered replies.

        • Yowie

          Thanks mate. It was a fair issue to raise and it’s caused me to think about the issue a fair bit before and after my reply.
          I really appreciate how respectful people are on this forum, even if they don’t agree on things.

        • Hoss

          No harm, no foul mate. Thank you for rightly bringing up your concerns, We are all the better on here for honest, open and respectful debate.

        • Hoss

          G’day FF,

          Thank you for taking the time to put your point of view across, it is welcomed, understood and respected.

          For the record, I couldn’t care less about a persons sexual orientation, gender or lack thereof – it’s there business and I have no feelings one way or tother about it. I am more interested in their quality as an individual and as human. My criticisms and shots at Jones have zero to do with his personal choices relating to relationships and predilections will always be because of the hypocrisy he displayed over many many years. In my post you reference I use the line relating to his behaviour and subsequent charges in England against the backdrop of incessant moral outrage and indignity he regularly wielded as a vast, blunt weapon.

          Those who want to hold themselves as figures, bastions of decency should approach said virtue from a base position of personal integrity.

          Everyone is entitled to personal choice for their lives and also allowed to make mistakes. But when you continue to portray a righteous public persona yet with a tangible moral ambiguity (cash for comments, misogyny, defamation, slander and bullying) you leave yourself rife for piss-taking and into this void step I.

          I freely accept this may or may not answer your post however I assure you that I stand by the fact I have never attacked anyone based on race, gender or sexuality but will continue to extract litres of urine for those that possess ‘moral flexibility’ based on ratings and cash or in some cases just plain spite.

        • Nutta

          Boom-tish

        • ATrain

          Yes perhaps – he taught at Brisbane Grammar and Kings in Sydney …Chris Masters biography seems to suggest he left under a cloud apparently but I haven’t read it

        • formerflanker

          You’d think that with all the criticism flowing Alan Jone’s way, he be much worse placed than 2nd out of 12.

        • ATrain

          For all his many faults, real or imagined his record suggests he could coach. He was successful at schools, Sydney Club and Wallabies level – still our only Grand Slam winning coach I think?

        • Who?

          Link had been in Qld, but he’d coached the Tahs, he’d been an assistant at the Brums… And, when he moved to Sydney, he picked Brumbies over Reds most of the time, not Tahs. He wasn’t around long enough to know for sure that he wouldn’t have fallen into the Tah-trap, though. Whereas Deans, definitely no provincial bias there, but it was known for a while that if you wanted to be a Wallaby, it was a good idea to get a paddleboard and visit certain areas of Sydney Harbour. You’d get one on one time with the national coach, and that helped curry favour. I don’t blame Deans for that, I think it’s an unconscious bias, and we’ve all got those.

        • Nutta

          Hold on – Tony Daly moved from Manly to Randwick to make a Daly/Kearns/McKenzie front row at Wicks/NSW/Wobblies well before the ’91 World Cup. Link was a Tart long before he was a Donkey or even a Pinko (before the Donkeys even existed to be fair)

        • Who?

          Absolutely. I didn’t go back that far, but that’s where I was heading. That the Reds thing was rather late in his career (post Stade Francais). Though, I could also have pointed out he was born in Melbourne. And his Donkey allegiance was really following his favourite Tahs coach (Macqueen, who coached the Tahs 91/92).

        • Nutta

          Ha! I was going to mention the whole Victorian & Weary Dunlop connection bit as well but we’re starting to sound like Monty Python Four Yorkshiremen…

    • onlinesideline

      i like how Rennie said because his wife wants to be close to family. No hiding, corporate BS. Just some simple homey truth.

      • Yowie

        It’s not a bad side benefit to supporting his wife if he also wanted to get away from a bunch of Sydney BS.

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Thanks Nathan, That’ll just be something else Jones and his Mosman home boys will use as a leverage against him if they don’t immediately beat the AB’s and SA. Of course if he only listened to them they’d immediately tell him who to pick and what needs changing. I’m with him and it’s good to see he’s showing he won’t be bullied from day one.
    Wright is sounding more and more like a Captain every time he gets interviewed. Sensible responses to questions without all the PR guff and platitudes. His play is pretty good as well.

    Banks is 100% correct, the Brumbies haven’t been playing that well, however it’s still been good enough to beat the opposition so that’s probably ok.
    So the Waratahs running numbers are better than everyone else’s and yet they’re still losing. Just maybe the issue is that they are focussing on the wrong stats then.

    • Yowie

      It would crack me up if anyone being criticised by Alan Jones responds (via whatever media) by quoting a juicy/scandalous section from “Jonestown: The Power and the Myth of Alan Jones”

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        I’m sure there are people out there who have replaced their copy of the bible with that font of all knowledge

        • Yowie

          I haven’t read it, but according to wikipedia it’s heavy on closet-case scandal (with anecdotes of alleged incidents).

          Jonestown might be similar (boom boom)

        • Nutta

          I have read it. And Yowie – yes it is so laden. I still have a copy somewhere. I keep it for the same reason I have US right-wing conservative news feeds on my FB – to keep me abreast of what the other side is thinking and not becoming lost in my own vortex of self-fulfilling feeds. Balance is good – to a point.

        • Yowie

          Any Wallaby-era scandal in the book? Anecdotally it wasn’t incident-free.

          Speaking of conservative news feeds, for some reason the Youtube mathemagicians have decided very recently that I need a load of American nutbar-fringe videos suggested to me. Perhaps it’s in my own interest for the reasons you’ve just given.

          For example, who knew that Trump was actually doing great at loads of things and a load of protesting people on a public road deserve the vehicle impact that is due to them?

        • Nutta

          Plenty of jabs (pun) about London and public toilet blocks etc…

          Re the conservative feeds, look, if you are going to run your skull into my fist repeatedly then you deserve all the injury you get yeh? Same logic.

          Whilst watching YT last night (wedding brawls – funny funny funny stuff) I got a push-clip of why AR-15’s really do need a 50-round clip and that any attempt to deny such was a fundamental die-in-the-ditch betrayal of ‘my’ 2nd amendment right and a power-play by the leftist deep-state snow-flakes… Wow.

        • Yowie

          So carrying lots of 30-round magazines on one’s mass-murder spree has become a lefty-snowflake position?
          How far society has drifted to the right lately….

        • Nutta

          Look it’s a trade-off between mobility and capability alright? I can go lighter, but if I really need to lay down the shite at some dumb-ass Donkey Free-Speech protestor infringing my goddamn right-of-way on the way to dropping off little 6yr old Claire at Daycare, then it’s my goddamn fundamentalist right to either whack in a x50 clip or go for the mini-gun in my boot yeh? What’s so fkn unreasonable about that you Commie Pinko Pro-Choice Nose-bagger!?!?!?

        • Hoss

          From about 3.40 minutes in – Chaser gold.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ3RrqBqk14

        • Nutta

          “…big fkn glass crater…” Outstanding.

        • onlinesideline

          ‘Tony Blair was Linda Blairs brother” – lololol
          “The fella with the Turban thing – I call it a diaper head really” – LOL
          ” Israel and the Plaestinians – which one is throwing the rocks” lol
          ” Who should the USA invade next in war on terror- answer FRANCE ” – lolololol.
          what is hiroshima and Nagasaki famous for -answer SUMO

          OMG just no words

        • Who?

          I just love the fact that the bloke who dressed as bin Laden in a Canadian embassy car in 2007 to go see Bush in Sydney is one of the two hosts of the best US Political show of the last decade. Insightful, fairly non-partisan, always happy to praise both sides as they earn it.

        • Who?

          That algorithm’s pretty smart… I watch stuff from a bloke who has two streams on his channel. I get links to all the guitar stuff, and none of the guns. I’m not opposed to guns (think Howard’s laws were great); they’re just not an interest. But to decide upload by upload whether or not the bloke’s video’s would be interesting to me? That’s pretty good.

          Which means you must’ve watched some pretty scary stuff. :-P Or perhaps the standard reaction to a fight at a wedding (in the US) is to go grab a 50 round clip to ‘win’? :-

        • Yowie

          NFOS – I am interested in guns from a military, technical and “fun to shoot” point of view, I just agree that society is better off without every crackpot being able to easily obtain them.

          It seems likely that my limited interest is causing the crazy videos to get pushed my way.

        • Nutta

          I’ve always liked watching rugby clips esp around scrum and heavy tackles. And I don’t mind a bit of NFL. About 3mths ago I started getting these “Watch an American react to rugby” clips. I watched a couple but they got boring pretty quick (seriously, how insular those folk are is amazing – “I’ve never seen rugby before…”). But then not long after that I started to get these deranged gun clips. Now I even get these fkd up clips about mercenaries in the middle east. Car-crash viewing stuff.

        • Who?

          I’ve watched a couple of those “American reacts to Rugby” clips – you’re right, snooze fest really quickly. My NFL fandom’s increasing… So, Rich Eisen, Pat McAfee… Still, no crazy gun clips for me. What are the kids watching..?

        • Yowie

          Do they pick very expressive people for those “…reacts to…” videos? Or do Americans not have any unspoken thoughts?

          FFS, I clicked on that “Watch an American react to rugby” video once and now I have video suggestions of every type of person reacting to every possible thing.

        • Who?

          The couple I watched, the bloke wasn’t that impressive… Taught me not to watch any ‘reacts to’ type videos.

        • Yowie

          For the sake of balance, the exception is a video of Gale Banks (accomplished engine tuner & hot-rodder) reacting to one of those flat-brim-cap-wearing Hoonigan videos where they try to tune a diesel engine on a dyno.

          Gale is nearly 78 years old but still quick as a whip and very funny. Eg. he compares the amount of smoke in the engine dyno room (getting ingested by the engine) to one of his dogs eating its own sh!t.

        • Nutta

          That could be interesting. All daughters. Cost-Centre No3 watches Stranger Things stuff, Cost-Centre No2 watches gymnastic girls stuff but 16yr old Cost-Centre No1… could be onto something there… but it wouldn’t be guns & ammo… WAIT… WHAT ABOUT THE WIFE!?!?!? fK. mENTAL NOTE, CHECK LIFE INSURANCE STATUS…

        • laurence king

          As someone who has a Bible and has read it, I can definately say I wouldn’t swap it for anything that comes out of Jones’ mouth. And just to be clear Trump is a dill

        • Nutta

          I’m with you Laurie. Take it from someone who grew up hard-core pro-Republican bog-Irish Catholic; I still have a few bibles (gifts mostly), I haven’t read anything in any of them (although I can still quote random swathes), and I STILL wouldn’t swap them for anything that’s been-in or come-out of Jones mouth. And just to be clear, Trump is a whole lot more than just a dill.

      • GeorgiaSatellite

        Unless they’ve been drinking the Kool Aid.

    • Who?

      Isn’t it weird? We’ve got a news day where pretty well everyone involved who was interviewed managed to avoid most stereotypes, yet they were positive. It’d be great to have more days like this!
      I too thought Wright’s reaction was very mature and intelligent, though, in person, it was also delivered with an exuberance that showed youth and buy in.

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        I know. I’m loving it

      • ATrain

        p!ss off with all your optimism

    • The way the Brumbies play reminds me strongly of England in the 80’s (maybe the 90’s) when they played 10 man rugby. Get the ball back to Andrew, who kicked for territory, squeeze the heck out of the opposition, force penalties, take the points. The only difference is, back then they took the points in threes, the modern Brumbies take the points by mauling and scoring tries. But, in essence, if you’re wearing a number higher than 10 on your back, you’re there as a defender.

      Ok, that’s an over-simplification, but they’re not looking at their backs to score the points, they’re quite happy to take the penalty, kick to the corner, rumble over with the driving maul. Exciting? Not hugely. Effective? Certainly.

      Do they need to get more expansive? In SR Australia, I doubt it. In a wider competition, history would suggest yes. Teams that don’t give away enough penalties in their own half are hard to score against like this, teams that are big enough to handle the mauls are hard to score against like this, teams that can just play down your end of the park are hard to score against like this, teams that can absorb 21 or so points and just score more points against you are hard to beat like this. The Brumbies have come undone against all of them in wider SR contests.

      • UTG

        I think last week’s game is clouding your view of their style. The Brumbies have scored 6/16 tries from mauls, three of which were last week.

        Tom Wright and Irae Simone are both in the top 5 for line breaks while Mack Hansen tops the defenders beaten count. So the Brumbies are certainly getting a lot of attacking opportunities from their backs. Indeed, against the Waratahs and the Force they scored tries through their backs coming out of their own half.

        If anything, the Rebels better fit your description of playing 10 man rugby, although they occasionally pass to Koroibete.

  • UTG

    Why is everyone so surprised that a Kiwi wants to live with the rest of NZ somewhere between Brisbane and the Gold Coast?

    • Yowie

      Do the “QueeNZlander” car stickers get made/used because of this?
      Or do other State or Territory names not lend themselves to that sort of play-on-words and cause sticker availability to drive migration trends?

    • Geoffro

      Just hope he doesn’t get influenced from the general malaise that affects every professional organisation associated with the sporting wasteland that is the area between the border and Brissy

      • UTG

        Yep, the Gold Coast is an absolute graveyard for sporting sides. I hope we don’t add a team there in an expanded domestic comp.

        • Geoffro

          Fortunately (or maybe unfortunately for us rugby followers who live here) the local fanbase is pretty pissweak so such endeavors would get little support , though didnt stop the football,basketball (deceased) or AFL and league (on life support).Lucky there is still the Magic Millions and surf events and such entertaining pastimes as spot the local.

    • Who?

      For a while, with all Channel 10’s ‘Bondi’ properties (Bondi Rescue, Bondi Vet, etc), I thought they should do the stereotypical ‘Bondi Kiwi’. Could even have found people like Bret, Jemaine, Rhys and Taika to do it with some humour and let them say what they want. But then I realized…
      The true location for such a show these days is the GC.
      But good on Rennie for finding a way to support his immediate family, and for distancing himself from what can be a very toxic location, RA HQ. It’ll be interesting to see if it’s reflected in selection of more Reds over time, the way that most Sydney-based coaches inevitably pick more Waratahs (because they see them regularly, not necessarily because they’re biased!).

      • Yowie

        Correction: When more Waratahs get picked it’s because of bias. If/when more Reds get picked, it’s on merit.

      • UTG

        I think Hamish ‘The Hammer’ McLennan is cleaning up RA but, you’re right, probably good to have a separation of powers.

  • Tomthusiasm

    I just saw the Phil Kearns has been put in charge of Australia’s 2027 world cup bid, so I’d like to formally congratulate Russia now on obtaining the RWC 2027 hosting rights.

    • Nutta

      I’m going back to last Thursdays new-boy contributor (KBX I think was his handle) and congratulating him on a well-played maneuver. Getting Kearnsy shanghai’d in is a masterstroke of double-deception mind-buggery by our Lemon Russkie Comrades. Gold standard work.

      • Tomthusiasm

        The Yanks are apparently keen on hosting too so we could be in for a rugby cold war

    • Reds Revival

      The best news of the year is that it means Kearnsy will not be applying for the CEO role. Sure, we will probably miss out on the World Cup now, but at least we will still have a game to support.

    • Keith Butler

      I thought this was a joke and then I read an article in the Age that confirmed it. Why not John Eales?

      • Yowie

        It was a miscommunication error.
        Someone at Rugby Australia said “We can’t just have nobody running the world cup bid”

      • Tomthusiasm

        Nobody knows

  • Hoss

    It’s proving a tad hard not to like Mr Rennie and the crop of good young gents coming through the ranks. The more i hear from them all the more I think the future of Oz Rugby is exciting and in good hands.

    • Nutta

      I call bullshit. That’s not you is it? You’ve been hacked.

      • Hoss

        ДА ЭТО ХОСС. DANKYOU FOR DA CONCERN COMRADE NUTTA, I NOTE YOU ARE ON DE LIST FOR VISIT LATER TODAY ALSO

        • Nutta

          Thought so. Way way way too balanced. It was the complete lack of sarcasm that first tipped me off. That made me think you wee being uber sarcastic…

        • Hoss

          So therefore i hypothesise the complete lack of sarcasm is actually an indicative marker for a higher level of sarcasm, as yet undetectable to the human ear?

          What are you doing in November and how do you feel about a tilt at the soon to be vacant ‘POTUS’ position?

        • Nutta

          I couldn’t keep a straight face.

          Dead set I often look at the guy and think “Fair-dinkum, this has GOT to be a gee-up…”. Seriously I sometimes wonder if the reason he just walks off mid press-conference sometimes is because he can’t stop himself from laughing. Dead-set NO ONE can be that myopic and be serious about it. It’s like watching old episodes of the Late Show and Shit-Scared with Mick Malloy and Rob Stitch!

        • Hoss

          He’s either taking the piss on an industrial scale and just winding people up or he genuinely has left the lights on and nobody is home. Scary thing is i can’t tell.

        • Yowie

          Back around 2016 (?) I heard some podcast or something with comedians speculating on whether the Orange One was an elaborate character performance piece leading up to a big reveal at the end of his term.


          I’ve met people in real life where it’s taken me a while to figure out if they are “putting it on” all the time (with deliberate hypocrisy for comic effect) or if that’s actually how they are.

        • Mica

          No wonder my dog was going mental

        • onlinesideline

          Silence comrade or it’s Nuttsoffsky

    • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

      Agreed. Rennie is looking like a good choice by Castle, which means the Good O’l boys will be out to get him. All I will add is, Rennie is getting there, but is still short of NZ standards.

      • Hoss

        Gold mate. Me thinks we RC got this call spot on, hence the delay in axing Mr Segall at end of 2018 and installing a ‘you’ll do for now coach’ and thus missing Mr Rennie.

        I would prefer a Rennie over a Foster anyday. Bring it home boys, bring it home

  • onlinesideline

    whens KO for Bled 1 – I gots a good feeling.

    Balance back row – no Pooper
    Fit
    In form selections
    Strategical clarity
    Strategic adaptiveness
    No baggage
    Coach communication – to players – good
    Coach communication – to public – good
    New combos
    new talented players
    80 minute footy
    no tahs

    • Hoss

      You almost had me till the end. You didnt write season 8 Game of Thrones did you OLSL ?? Great lead-up, shit house ending.

      • onlinesideline

        name your Tahs then for higher honours. Just remember this is recorded, the internet is forever – just like Crystal’s one porn flick, despite being out of character, will still be on the internet when she is a Nana and little Billy may just stumble across it in 2053.

        • Hoss

          Be quicker to do a Tah’s list of who should miss out……..

          Ok, crystal ball till seasons end…..

          – Lee Magors

          Possibles

          – Gene if he hasn’t buggered of to London Irish by then
          – Harrison (i reckon Toomua will be considered at 12 with JOC at 10 and they will want to blood Lolesio / Harrison – at least indoctrinate them in whats involved at the next step)
          – Mad Dog (Swinton)

          Roughies,

          – Maddock’s – needs head extracted from arse from this round onward’s though
          – Ramm – he has been consistent-ish and looks for work.

        • onlinesideline

          Think you are in for a few suprises mate TBH and I cant wait – we shall see.
          I think 2 cows will be 10 and JOC will be 12

        • Hoss

          Its a real nice problem to have. I think 6-7 & 8 are the hardest to pick in a decade

          Hooper, Samu, Wright, Isi, Valentini, Wright, McWright, Harry Wilson, Scott-Young, FKA,

          And dont get me started on the Piggies – Sio, 7A’s, Eric Clapton, the Abattoir, HJH and a crop of newish faces Pone, Zander, Hoopert, Robertson back from injury, Angus Bell

          We are spoiled for choice mate and put Rennie at the helm and i feels good, good i tells ya.

        • Nutta

          It’s Hooker that worries me a bit. Fingers clearly has the wood but who is the 2of2’s? And Lock isn’t exactly flush either.

        • Hoss

          Yep, i reckon Uleses is my starting 2, dependent on who 1 & 3 are. If its a Ponies 1&3 then is Palestine for mine. If its a mixed 1&3 then Uleses gets the gig – he’s coming back to form nicely, good on the ball and plays like a 6 in the loose. But largely agree, 2 is open for the taking. Simmons is the form lock in Oz, but wouldnt surprise me if special dispensation arranged for Rodda, Arnold or Coleman (none of that trio blow my skirt up though)

        • onlinesideline

          as long as they dont blow up your skirt , all good
          You really think Rennie will get Skelton back ?
          BTW – what is Rennie’s GGR name – Ive been absent lately

        • Hoss

          Not sure mate – we kicked around some a few weeks back and i cant remember if we landed on one that stuck.

          Edit *** Maybe ‘Moses’ – lead us to the promised lands

        • onlinesideline

          sidelnote – these Fingers truck and trailer tries are ridiclous though. Its NFL.

        • onlinesideline

          Samu needs a run on and a fair crack. With 4 matches against kiwis we will learn alot. He could absolutely shine under Rennie, my guess he will.

        • onlinesideline

          Locks if trio dont come back ?

        • Hoss

          FKA is playing well as a lock. Improved his work rate, big body. But we need a lineout general as well. So its gotta be Simmo and maybe FKA with Skelton & TBA on the pine.

        • Ads

          I think you need to blood a new 10 or a new 12. So JOC at 10 with Irae Simone at 12 (for e.g.) or Harrison at 10 with JOC at 12 (for example). I think I like Option A starting with JOC moving to 12 with Harrison/Lolesio coming off the bench for the last 20 for this year.

          My Backrow of choice is Valetini, Hooper, Isi. With LSL and probably Simmo as locks.

        • ATrain

          That makes some sense to me

        • onlinesideline

          yeah good points mate…although Im a fan of Samu espcially udner Rennie

          Whats Quade doing ? bhaha
          In fact what IS he doing, what happened to his NRL debut ?

        • Ads

          I would love to see Cooper at 12 for my Tahs to mentor Harrison

        • onlinesideline

          Id love to see him back. Him a the Tahs would be absoluetly fascinating

        • Hoss

          Looking back is great for a sore neck and telling you were you’ve been, but not for seeing where your going.

        • onlinesideline

          not fully serious on that one I must admit

        • Hoss

          Good call re Simone – he is THE form 12 of the comp by some distance too.

        • Ads

          Yeah I’m just not excited by Toomua and JOC at 10/12. We know it’s bog average already.

        • Hoss

          Id be happy with JOC at 10 but I am with you Matty T doesnt do it for me. He should, he’s fairly sound all round game, good off the tee, strong in D – it’s all there. But i am reminded of the several French kisses with my late Nan, the ingredients were all there, but it just didn’t move me and it should have as she was a great kisser, but.

    • laurence king

      I think that the players are really going to enjoy playing for Rennie and he is going to get the best out of them. And that was a major problem of the Chieka years, they played with heart but didn’t enjoy it.

  • onlinesideline

    is it my imagination – the players in both comps dont look buggered. All matches feel homish to all players because they are all in OZ / NZ – even though they may not be home ground. I think this is just physically and thus mentally fricken exuberatin’

    They look fresh and this is how it should be. The pre Covid super matches had this hangoverish / jetlagged look to them as it bloody well should. Even if travelling to NZ, while flight is small, its still another country, its not home.

    Secondly, Im not seeing supporters get bored. Tribalism sustains the compa because its LOCAL, FAMILIAR and ROUTINE.

    Waiiting for Hansen to make one more backhander too many, totally piss off RA and for an announcement to be made for a Australian only 8-10 team comp, with 2 x sydmey based Pacifika teams. Dream come true. In one year my last years rant could be a reality.

  • RedAnt

    That’s a bit harsh isn’t it Nathan?
    “Not contempt with being a Kiwi…”
    It’s OK to be OK with where you were born.

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      I took that as the spelling mistake it was intended to be but did laugh at it

      • RedAnt

        Yeah, hard to tell if it was deliberate or not!

  • onlinesideline

    Rando thought. I like how Rennie is a Moari and not a white kiwi. Non PC way to say it but who cares. I think this will make the Moari / Islander / Fiji (have I left anyone out) Wallaby contigent feel very comfortable. They could really flourish under him.Look at the chiefs in 2014. They were absolutely buzzing, had that x factor, scary good at the time, took on Crusaders head on and had grit. Thats what we are missing, GRIT.

    Also he is going to bring back al lof of respect internationally to the Wallaby brand, re how he holds himself at press time and on game day. Gonna say it…Im desparate for this. The Wallaby brand was always respected and that moment when Cheika got booed by pommy crowd walking down Twickenham stairs – my heart sunk – that was baddd and sadddd.

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