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Wednesday’s Rugby News

Wednesday’s Rugby News looks at the surprise date and time for the Bledisloe, James O’Connor looking to repay the Reds, Force coach Tim Sampson’s well deserved re-signing and Lachlan McCaffrey’s uncertain future ahead of the Super Rugby Australia final.


Afternoon Bledisloes

Photo Courtesy of Keith McInnes

Photo Courtesy of Keith McInnes

As Australian rugby heads into a new era so will the Bledisloe Cup after New Zealand Rugby announced that the opening two tests will be held on Sunday October 11 and 18.

This was confirmed on Tuesday as the New Zealand Government formally announced that they will allow the Wallabies to train and leave isolation before the mandatory 14-day period.

“We’re delighted to lock in the dates and venues for the two home matches against Australia and look forward to seeing the Bledisloe Cup go on the line next month,” NZR CEO Mark Robinson said.

“We acknowledge that this has been a complex and challenging puzzle to solve and we’re grateful that both rugby organisations, together with our Government, have come together to get these matches across the line.

“We’re also pleased that the All Blacks team and management now have certainty and can plan accordingly, and we wish them all the very best for the Bledisloe Cup campaign.”

The first match will be held at Wellington’s Sky Stadium on Sunday 11 October, followed up a week later at Eden Park in Auckland on Sunday 18 October.

In a surprise twist, both games are set to be played at 3:30 NZ time, which would mean a 1:30 pm start for the East Coast Mafia (Ok, I can deal with that).

And a 12:30 pm start for those Queenslanders who still fear refuse to adapt to daylight savings time (Well, that’s a bit early but manageable.)

And a 10:30 am start for those in WA (Wait, what!)

Regardless of the time and date, it shapes to be a great series after the NZ PM granted the Wallabies special exemption after Dave Rennie shirt fronted the AB’s and the Government.

It has been confirmed that they will be allowed to train together six days into their mandatory 14-day quarantine period, ensuring that they have over a week to acclimatise and bond as a group.

O’Connor repaying the faith

James O'Connor

James O’Connor

Reformed bad boy James O’Connor is looking to pay back the faith shown by Queensland coach Brad Thorn as the Reds sit on the verge of the Super Rugby Australia title.

After his wayward stint in France, O’Connor saw the signs and opened up his eyes, coming back home to Queensland in 2019.

Whilst Thorn has had a notorious hard stance with players that have questionable pasts such as Karmichael Hunt and James Slipper, he pardoned the 30-year-old who he has paid him back ten-fold, leading them into the final.

“All I asked for was an opportunity and I was very thankful I was given it, and I hope I’ve repaid that,” O’Connor said.

“With Thorny, what you see is what you get. He likes it if you’re upfront…and you’re just accountable for your actions,

“That’s the way I live my life now, so we’ve got along pretty well.”

Whilst pundits and fans are praising his influence over the side, O’Connor concedes that he is a soldier of fortune, believing that it has been a case of being in the right place at the right time.

“I came (back) at a pretty good time. They’d laid the foundations down, recruited really well, there’s a Queensland base within the team, so for me to just come in it’s been pretty seamless,” he said.

“It’s just to add a few little tweaks here and there, and getting to know the guys and how each of them play, and just trying to unlock that talent that was already here.

“The guys knew what they wanted to do, what they wanted to achieve…there was belief building already.

“There was quite a bit of unfinished business before I came back this year, so it means a lot to us, and to me in particular.

“I’m my harshest critic. Anybody’s who’s played with me and anybody who’s coached me understands that, and if I feel I’m doing the correct job for the team, that’s all I need.”

Samp’s(on) for the long haul

Tim Sampson NRC 2019 Force v Rising (Credit Delphy)

Western Force coach Tim Sampson has recommitted to the club for the next two years with the Force announced his re-signing until the end of 2022.

Sampson joined the club in 2018, finding immediate success as he led them to the 2019 National Rugby Championship title along with navigating their return to Super Rugby this season.

With their future seemingly secured as the Western Australians remains in hot demand between the two domestic competitions, Sampson was optimistic that they could build off their tough 2020 campaign.

“These are very special and exciting times to be involved with the club,” Sampson said.

“There is a lot of momentum not only within the Western Force, but also generally throughout Western Australian rugby, and I am delighted to be involved in witnessing it first-hand grow from strength to strength.

“We currently have a wonderful team throughout the entire organisation who are all motivated and passionate about what we do and who we represent. The club has been fantastic to me and my family, which I am so grateful for.”

Head of rugby Matt Hodgson praised Sampson for the impact that he has had upon the Force in his short stint.

“Tim has done an excellent job and we are thrilled to keep him here at the Western Force,” Hodgson said.

“He has helped establish a strong family-oriented culture within the organisation and I believe he is creating a long-lasting legacy for the club and the players.

“His ability to not only develop great players, but great people, is a testament to the way he goes about his business.”

Not Loched in

Lachlan McCaffrey

Lachlan McCaffrey

Brumbies back-rower Lachlan McCaffrey is looking to put his uncertain future behind him as he prepares for his side’s final against the Reds.

McCaffrey is preparing to return to Japan for a domestic campaign with Kyuden Voltex at the end of Super Rugby Australia, however, there are still uncertainties surrounding border closures and visa applications.

Considering he has essentially played rugby for 12 months straight (asides for the COVID break), McCaffrey told reporters that he is looking to finish this chaotic period on a high.

“I went from Super to Japan and straight back into Super, and it has been an unusually long season due to COVID,” he said.

“It will be nice to just reflect on that last period after a good win on the weekend and lucky enough to get back to Kyuden Voltex in Japan as soon as all the visas go through. I’ll get over there with my family and try to do well for next season.

“To be honest I just told managers can they just worry about that stuff. All my effort and energy goes into making sure we finish well for the Brumbies.”

With the ACT Government allowing up to 6,000 fans to return to GIO Stadium, McCaffrey was hoping that they could lift them to the inaugural Super Rugby Australia title.

“They’re people, when we run out, we can look around and know they’ve got our back for the next 80 minutes,” McCaffrey said.

“We said it after the last game when we went to 3000, everyone was saying it felt like there was 6000 or 10,000 there…Everyone is really excited to play in front of 6000, hopefully it will feel like 25,000.

“Most importantly, we get to play at home in front of friends, family, and loved ones. That’s what rugby is about. That 16th man is going to make a big difference.”

The Brumbies could be boosted by the return of fly-half Noah Lolesio, who is reportedly an outside chance of playing in Saturday’s final.

  • Hannes En Brianda Barnard

    Great for the Force to lock in Sampson for another two years. He has done a wonderful job in difficult circumstances this year. As the investment in local rugby starts to pay off in the next couple of years it will be exciting times at the Force.

    • Mica

      Seriously hope so. I’d love to see WA become a real force in any future competition (love a good pun :) ). The better the Aus clubs get, the better it is for rugby as a whole. I really respect what Twiggy has done too. He seems to have struck the right balance of input, support and letting the team have the lattitude they need. I think they have a pretty strong base going forward.

      • Fully agree. Listen to us Mr. Forrest. Please.

    • I agree. Be great to see the Force get a few big guns and playing their home games in Perth. Hoping that the news of their potentially quitting Perth for Kiwiland is rubbish.

      • Thomas Murray

        It ain’t

        • Max Graham

          It is

        • onlinesideline

          lol

      • Hannes En Brianda Barnard

        Wonder why RA keeps dragging their feet. It there was a good offer on the table for the Force to play in Australia they would not even consider to join NZ. The ball is in RA’s court. I guess they will make the offer after the players that are off contract signed up with the other franchises…

        • Reds Revival

          Considering there has been deafening silence on the broadcast deal, I would suspect that RA is unable to make a commitment about next year’s comp, rather than they are dragging their feet.

        • Dally M

          Agreed.

          So many moving parts for 2021, and COVID still throwing a spanner in the works all over the globe, makes it hard to get anyone to commit to anything.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Bang on mate. The lack of a deal could be an issue with the players pay as well seeing as the deal to reduce wages was until the end of this month. Things are certainly up in the air

  • Dally M

    Thanks Nathan.

    Great to see NZ finally come around and have some flexibility in their quarantine to allow the tests to go ahead.

    Clearly faced with only 1 test at home, a potential Christmas in NZ quarantine or a host of player withdrawals for the Rugby Championship, they finally found some common sense.

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      Absolutely mate. The government is taking a few hits with their stance but I’m glad there’s resolution on this. I still think we may see some players stay at home for the RC but great that the Bledisloe is going ahead. I’m certainly less confident of a NZ win than I have been over the last 6 years

      • Dally M

        I just think NZ have too much established continuity in their team to be knocked off by Australia, at least in the first 2 tests.

        Hopefully we give it a good shake though and show we are on the upward swing.

        • Reds Revival

          I agree Dally. I’m not expecting a win straight away, but hoping to surprise them with our competitiveness and improvement. While Moses is saying he wants to win from the outset, he has to say that. Unfortunately, it sets up a massive expectation on him early, and they will be braying for his head if the results don’t happen immediately.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          I’m hoping that after the way they continued to back Cheika despite his crap results they’ll have learned to pull their heads in a bit. Hoping but not expecting

        • Reds Revival

          A leopard doesn’t change its spots.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          True

        • whatwouldberniedo

          I don’t see how any reasonable fan can expect a win against the AB’s. aside from Tupou, they are man for man better in every position.
          all I hope for is that we play in a way that demonstrates an understanding of how to apply the maximum amount of pressure.
          the “do what your opposition least wants you to do” is what the saders are masters of and what the Rennie chiefs were very good at.
          if we can manage to do that, we’ll be in the hunt, and in that one match each year where the AB’s play shit, we’re good enough to take the chocolates. thats what’s been missing for most of the last 15 years and what Link was getting tantalisingly close to before the cheika era.

        • UTG

          I think you’ll be surprised at some of the starters for NZ and how far they’ve fallen away since 2015.

        • whatwouldberniedo

          I guess I’m assuming a team something like

          1?
          2 Taylor
          3 ?
          4 blues capt
          5 whitelock
          6 frizel
          7 cane
          8 the freak from the blues
          9 smith
          10 Beuden
          11 reece
          12 goodhue
          13 reiko
          14 will jordan
          15 jordy

          its an absolute freak show. and the bench is more of the same

          im not saying that will be the team, I’m just saying whatever team that is better than that is ridiculously talented.

        • UTG

          I would argue we’re at least as good at 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12, 13, 11, 14. Savea will be in the backrow though.

        • whatwouldberniedo

          I guess I just really want Rennie to be given time to build something before toxic expectations derail him. we should be prepared for a tough season where a lot doesn’t go our way against the world champs and a next gen AB’s determined to write some history of their own.

          I hated cheika as a coach and wanted Rennie from the moment he left the chiefs. its been a long wait for me and I’d really like the public and the administrators to keep the faith this year regardless of the win /loss column.

        • UTG

          I understand that and I’m not calling us to win 4/4 but I’m fairly certain if we flipped the sides and players like Wilson, Petaia, Tupou, Koroibete, Daugunu etc. were in line for AB spots your comments about them being better than us man for man would be exactly the same.

          Treat them with respect but not reverence. There is more than enough talent in the Wallaby squad to get it done.

        • Tomthusiasm

          I reckon Goodhue will be in the mix, but Rieko Ioane should probably get the nod ahead of him

        • Reds Revival

          It shows the quality of the team if Goodhue is being talked about as a bench option!

        • Mica

          Goodhue will be the first centre picked.

        • Reds Revival

          I would have thought so too.

        • UTG

          Yep, they’ve certainly got some great depth but Toomua and Petaia are pretty damn good. Petaia, imo, is the most talented of both squads in both attack and defence. I was astounded when he dropped Naisarani on Saturday allowing Daugunu to make a turnover and no one made anything of it.

        • Mica

          ALB more of a 12 too although I know he’s played a bit of 13

        • Thomas Murray

          Nice joke,Where are these players you say are at least as good?You curse your players.Your rugby isn’t on par with the SRA

        • UTG

          Oh, here we go, the bait was set and we have a biter.

          Sorry but I’m just not that worried about coming up against Fossie’s RWC semi finalists.

        • Reds Revival

          TM, I think you’re on the wrong site. Perhaps you mis-typed Roar rugby.

        • Dally M

          Ha ha, it’s quite often hard to make sense of what he’s trying to say, but mostly i’m getting the he thinks the Aussies are shite vibe.

        • Reds Revival

          Which is fine if he thinks that, but I would have thought voicing that on a website called “Green and Gold Rugby” is probably not the ideal place to share that, unless he is just trying to get a response. Don’t the All Blacks have their own supporter websites?

        • Alister Smith

          Black and Black Rugby?

        • Reds Revival

          Black and Blacker?

        • Hoss

          #allblacklivesmattertoo

        • Yowie
        • Dally M

          He’s probably get run off Stuff.co.nz as well

        • Yowie
        • whatwouldberniedo

          they can have my wife…….

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Hahahahahaha

        • Perth girl

          Caleb Clark?

        • whatwouldberniedo

          maybe over reece. Jordans height /ability in the air against filipo and Koro, even Kolbe for the boks makes him the first winger picked IMO. I’m expecting a lot of attacking kicks

        • Reds Revival

          As much as it would be a life long dream to have been selected in the Wallabies, if I then found out that I was marking Caleb Clark, I think that I would hand the jersey back!

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          I think he’ll be in the mix. Maybe as a reserve

        • You may be right. In fact you probably are. However, let’s remember that this year, BEFORE the Coronavirus restrictions, Australian teams were doing well against their Kiwi counterparts. Rebels and Brumbies both won in New Zealand, and the Reds outscored the Crusaders 4 tries to 3 in Christchurch.

        • Thomas Murray

          But NZ teams beat Aussie teams in Aussie and Reds LOST to the Crusaders,NZ teams needed the SRA to wake up,You to forget your teams were getting beaten

        • Who?

          I agree, but…….

          Of our last three coaches, we had one who didn’t beat NZ (so close in that last game, a draw, and no Pocock either year…).

          The first game for Deans was a win. I’d argue it was the players using Muggles’ defensive system and much of the Connolly/Johnson framework in attack, given the defence would be dismantled in time for an 8-53 loss in SA that season before being rebuilt in Deans’ system, and our attack would consistent retreat over the next 2 years, until Deans found enough X factor players to make his ‘system’ work (i.e. pick heaps of X factor players and put them in the jerseys from the kit that happen to physically fit).

          And Cheika’s first game was Sydney 2015 – a win. A rectification of the draw from the previous year, where our halves were terrible, even though again, our halves were terrible. Foley was so deep behind a dominant pack that Phipps had issues reaching him on the full with passes from the ruck!

          So, over the past 12 years, when we’ve had a new coach, we’re 2 from 3. That’s NOT what I’d have expected…
          So, who knows how it goes? All I can say is that I’m glad that Jacinda finally realized that being quarantined in Australia for 3 months – largely in a state which has a greater population than NZ (Qld), yet has had fewer cases, has fewer active cases, and has less than 30% of the death toll of NZ – isn’t an inferior situation requiring the same harsh quarantine you’d get if you were coming from the US or Brazil. To have even proposed we needed that sort of quarantine should be considered insulting.

        • Hambone

          That’s all in hoping for. 1 week full squad prep, new coaches, new structures add the darkness. going to be a tough day at the office that’s for sure. The fair-weather wallaby fox sports supporters already out in force. I must remind myself not to scroll through the comments sections.

      • Hoss

        And so you should be nervous my friend.

        One side has an internationally renowned, respected and successful Kiwi coach, heralded and admired by all, the other has Ian Foster.

        Its game on.

        • Thomas Murray

          Too right but your coach ain’t got Smith to help him.New year,Same old

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Hahahahaha I wouldn’t knock him too early. Most of the hate came from people wanting Scott Robertson and there was a well orchestrated campaign against Foster but he wouldn’t have got the job if he didn’t have the goods

        • Hoss

          I’m gettin in early while it’s 0-0. Might go a bit quiet later though.

      • Brumby Runner

        KARL, I have a lot of belief in the young talent coming through, the likes of McReight, Wilson, Lolesio, Harrison and Ramm to name some, and confidence in the new national coaching team, but I do not expect the see the Cup coming this side of the ditch this year. I think the next couple of years should put a dent in the NZ confidence levels.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          I certainly hope it doesn’t change hands but I think with the new coach and hopefully some actual good players coming through the Wallabies are going to be tougher than they have been for years

        • Dally M

          Yep, 2020 may not be our year but with another season under their belts i would expect them to be taking to the AB’s in 2021.

    • I agree. Special cases make for all kinds of headaches, where simple, clear (and well thought through) rules are easier to handle. However, NZ as a country is one where an exception for a visiting rugby side will really fly – just about everyone understands how it’s an exception, and giving them a full-strength AB for TRC is going to be a politically savvy move too.

      Glad they could find a way to make it work.

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Thanks Nathan. Good to see resolution of the Bledisloe matches and really looking forward to these games. Still not 100% convinced the full RC will go ahead with additional news from Argentina on the covid issue there, but hoping.
    I like JOC 2.0 and it’s great to see him reflect on this and help others coming through. Even better he is playing very well too.
    I just hope there’s a long term future for the Force and they don’t get shafted by RA again. They do need to build their depth and great to see some of their signings. Hopefully they continue in SAU Mark 2 next year and beyond.
    Epic final coming up and so good to see that while the Brumbies are likely favourites there’s enough there that no one actually can be too comfortable in the result. I was chatting to a mate in NZ and while we were sad there wasn’t a final series we both acknowledged that it probably wouldn’t have changed anything as the Crusaders are just too strong. Also on NZ it’s interesting to see how well Waikato play when Garland isn’t the coach. Maybe he’s not the Mesiah people are thinking he is because the Chiefs were crap under his coaching

  • Yowie

    Great work with the Ace of Base reference Nathan.

    • donktec

      Had to look twice, but eventually i found it!

  • Alister Smith

    JOC – “I’m my harshest critic” I am not sure he has read some of the forums I have read in the past but if he has I hope its not true – anyway good to see him playing well and enjoying his team mates company and his rugby.

    • laurence king

      It would be complete redemption if he wad made skipper of the Wallabies

      • Alister Smith

        We could choose worse but he isn’t the Qld Captain so I suspect they won’t pick him as the Wallabies Captain. still he will be a leader on the field and off now. With the redemption thing – i wonder if that is something he is searching for anyway. The head space he seems to be in suggests that it isn’t a focus – he isn’t trying to prove anything to anyone outside, he is just trying to sharpen his skills, improve his game, improve himself as a person – and that doesn’t require outside acknowledgement that you have reached a place where everyhone forgives you or you are redeemed. It will sound a bit wanky but I think he has moved beyond that requirement of outside acceptance.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Not wanky at all mate and I agree. He seems in a really good head space

  • Hambone

    Love good news rugby Wednesdays. International tests locking in. Reinvigorated lads and their penance. The force looking to build our west coast army. Our new messiah drawing lines in the sand. Looking forward to the final and the coming months of footy watching our boys rebuild into a new cohesive elite unit.. Hahahaha. Go wallabies

  • Hoss

    Here’s a COVID / Bledisloe stumper. With no OS travel allowed how will they apply neutral refs ?

    See COVID’s not all bad – no Nigel Owens.

    • Yowie

      KARL is a referee who seems to manage dual loyalties pretty well. Perhaps he’ll get all the Bledisloe reffing gigs?

      • Hoss

        Dont think he likes flying with his guide dog mate, so probably not.

        • Yowie

          We’ll know if KARL has accepted the “pass the hat around” GaGR bribe if he boards the plane with his golden labrador rather than his black labrador.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          As some players have told me

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Nah mate. Too old and too slow

    • Tah Tragic

      or Romain Poite.

    • UTG

      I’m more than happy to crowdfund Wayne Barnes’ expenses. Also, that Garces bloke who red carded ScoBar last year.

      • Hoss

        Put me in for $25 for Barnsey – just for shits and giggles and PTSD of 2007 for the Kiwis.

    • idiot savant

      No but we will get Williams and O’Keefe. They’re a long way from neutral. Kiwi refs love penalising Australians. The only time you see Williams and Pickeriil smile is when they give yellow cards to Australians. Australian refs on the other hand also love penalising Australians to try and prove they are not biased. Kiwi refs have no such concerns.

      • Hoss

        Sorry IS, usually agree 100% with you, but youve missed the mark here and i refute your claims

        Exhibit ‘A’

        – Beale deliberately ‘cocks his throat’
        – He then targets Moody off the ball
        – The deliberate contact with Moody’s elbow by Gilbert is sickening and Gilbert should have been marched immediately.

        More evidence of an overarching bias to Australians from the Kiwi officials – we should be thankful.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE0EJEp05UI

        • laurence king

          Yeh, Beale is a cheap shot merchant

        • UTG

          Beale lost me as a supporter after that grubbery.

        • idiot savant

          Outrageous. I dont know how Ben Skeen missed that. And O’Keefe needs to write himself a new prescription. Should’ve been a red card to Beale. The kiwis lost precious minutes with Moody off for an EIA (elbow injury assessment).

        • onlinesideline

          As elbow is being replayed – Justin Marshall – “And that’s just the New Zealanders gettin back in to the game”.

          Must admit that was impressive, knock out KB and then go over for the try. He can play in my side any day.

        • Hoss

          ‘Getting back in the game’ or ‘crushing someone’s larynx’ – 6 of one, half dozen the other really.

        • onlinesideline

          just a little lovetap from the south Island where men are men and sheep are sheep and and the sheep love the men and the men love the sheep and the sheep love the sheep and …

      • UTG

        Could not agree more. Gardner would flog us.

    • Ads

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        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Gold

      • Perth girl

        “That chick” I guess you are over 50

        • Ads

          Nup – sub 50. And that’s more polite than what I call most referees. She was really good in the limited games I’ve seen her ref. For many in modern parlance, “chick” or “bloke” (or dare i say “girl” – I assume you are over 18 and not in fact a “girl”) has no connotation other than gender. As there is only a single Super level female WA referee (and I’m inherently too lazy to bother googling her name), I thought it was kinda self-explanatory to whom I referred. Are we about to have a discussion about pronouns?

  • Not impressed at all with the schedule of the two Bledisloe Tests in NZ. Better option for mine was just one test on 17th or 18th as suggested by RA.
    Separately, does anyone have any further news on TV broadcasters (Fox Sports or others) in 2021? Seems to have gone totally off the radar. Furthermore on any Trans Tasman competition, which for mine remains a three way win. IE For the Kiwis, for us, and for the broadcasters. In the right hands with the right promoters this option could really be a hit.

    • Yowie

      Furthermore on any Trans Tasman competition

      Wow, first women’s rugby goes professional and now this.

    • Hoss

      Growing rumours that Optus are in box seat plus a FTA provider.

      • Yowie

        That would be excellent. I might even fork out for a subscription if Rupert isn’t getting the money.

        • Hoss

          ‘Yes’

      • Reds Revival

        The GAGR podcast boys were saying that they had heard Optus had walked away, and that is why there is still silence about the deal from RA.

        • Hoss

          No mate, back in – up to the tonsils
          I believe. My sources are impeccable.

        • Reds Revival

          Great news! I’m already an Optus customer, so bring it on!

  • Hoss

    Just for clarities sake, this is Quade Cooper we are talking about right?

    • Reds Revival

      He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.

    • Neil Pocock

      It’s easy to joke about it now…… but when the Wallabies get FLOGGED by everyone because the coaches abuse their privledged with personal vendettas, then……what am I talking about……. that allready happened at the last WC with Cheikas teachers pet, Bernard the distributor Foley…….
      I GARUNTEE you if you sat in some truth honour circlea and asked who should be the main Wallaby 10….. JOC would say….. “Yep dam right I’ll step aside for Quade. I’m not even a 10……even tho it looks like I’m about to be the Wallabies 10…….and therefore the mentor of the next generation”!

      • Hoss

        No doubt mistakes were made all round with KC and the Sunshine Band. An exceptional talent and probably as much his fault as others (coaches). No doubt he has matured into a considered and decent young man and i guess none will ever know ‘what could’ve been’. Bit harsh on Moses though to start off by hanging years-old dirty laundry off his clothes line though and presuming him guilty before any type of trial.

        No doubt Kiwis start favourites. they are perpetually strong and worthy favourites. But the ink is dry on the whole QC chapters, the new Chapters are yet to be written and that’s frigging exciting for mine.

        • Yowie

          Although I could work with “Thorn is a deep-state Kiwi agent sent to deprive Australia of the best No 10″

        • Hoss

          Either / or.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Damn! We’ve been found out again. I told them it was too close to Deans

        • Neil Pocock

          Who’s Moses?

        • Hoss

          Rennie – he will deliver us to the promised lands……….

        • long as he doesn’t take 40yrs…

        • Hoss

          Where about half way there anyway aint we? What is it 17-18 years since we held the mug?

        • Too true..
          He released 10 commandments yet?

        • Hoss
        • Neil Pocock

          AHH. Of course. And I put all that dirty laundry on Thorns side. Rennie can make his own future….. which I too am excited about! It’s today’s media pronouncing Thorn as some sort of Meds Coach for dumping Quade and now the Reds have all this “success”….

        • Alister Smith

          Meds Coach???

    • Geoffro

      Is it just me or does this time last year feel more like this time five years ago.2020 is just a mindfuck.to put it (not so) politely

      • Hoss

        I’ve spent 9 minutes reading this Geoffro and i buggered if i understand what is is your saying

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CVbku6nxhU

        • Geoffro

          Yeah,probably just me then.Has much to do with the amount of shit and upheaval in the last nine months or so and the rapid change of our circumstances in a short amount of time (at large as well as rugby scene).

        • Hoss

          It’s been a doozy ain’t it

      • onlinesideline
    • onlinesideline

      lol – you’re a funny bugger, got me again, cracked up in cafe

  • onlinesideline

    tell ya what, even tho its dead in water, QC would fire under Rennie IMO.

    Stranger things have happened. Look at the whitebait king Steven Donald. He was “fusshhhing in Kuckeeepoookooo river” when Ted gave him a call. We are not exactly overstocked with 10s.

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Loved rugby since the day I could remember, got the nickname Footy to show that, I watch Matt Dunning's dropkick every night before going to bed

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