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Wallabies 2023

Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
Completely off topic I know, but that outfit is the absolute pits! That green in the shorts is truly vomitous.

PS: Its a new word that I just made up but if we see much more of this they'll have to include it in the New Australian Dictionary as word of the year!
 

Sir Arthur Higgins

Alan Cameron (40)
Will Skelton and tom banks have never left a great impression other than one filled with “ifs”
With Arnold, rodda, Phillip, swain and neville plus now luke Jones coming back I’m not sure we need big will anyways?

I thought he was poor in his two tests. How many tests do you give the guy o/s to perform?

fullback - I have almost no answers. Can we bring folau from 5 years ago back?

ten is a looming problem in need of a solution. Hopefully donaldson, edmed, passitoa and Gordon all get plenty of game time next year and we see growth.
Noah is serviceable but he’s not the 10 you want, the one you need right now.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
Will Skelton and tom banks have never left a great impression other than one filled with “ifs”
With Arnold, rodda, Phillip, swain and neville plus now luke Jones coming back I’m not sure we need big will anyways?

I thought he was poor in his two tests. How many tests do you give the guy o/s to perform?

fullback - I have almost no answers. Can we bring folau from 5 years ago back?

ten is a looming problem in need of a solution. Hopefully donaldson, edmed, passitoa and Gordon all get plenty of game time next year and we see growth.
Noah is serviceable but he’s not the 10 you want, the one you need right now.
Oh yeah who could possibly need double European champion Skelton when we've got Luke Jones..
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
unless we can get a serious injection of money and keep players at home for longer.
There can—and should—be such. When you're losing blood, replace it.

Not all patients accept injections, though. Some refuse transfusions.
 
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The Ghost of Raelene

Andrew Slack (58)
Completely off topic I know, but that outfit is the absolute pits! That green in the shorts is truly vomitous.

PS: Its a new word that I just made up but if we see much more of this they'll have to include it in the New Australian Dictionary as word of the year!
Always looks average when they go to these events.

Victim of uniforms being produced for the entire Australian Comm Games team. Some designer did a solid 5 mins on the Rugby Kit before moving onto the Race Walk.
 

Froggy

John Solomon (38)
Might have been me! Green is green, yellow is yellow, put the fucking thing on and get out there.
Anyone who's seen me would be aware fashion isn't my strength!!
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Andrew Slack (58)
Watching Mack Hansen for Ireland really drove this home. The bloke would probably be a Wallaby if Aus had more playing spots available.
I don't mind him and I'm happy to see him doing well.

Don't think he had much of a future here. Got a bit of Drew Mitchell about him in terms of not being the fastest or biggest but is always in the right place at the right time with a good footy brain. Seems he's landed in the right spot and fits the style Ireland play.
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
Players should least be able to play for NZ team's in super rugby and vice versa. I think this would potentially be an answer to make Aus teams stronger, and also watching non-domestic games more interesting.

If Hooper played for the Highlanders and Barrett for the Tahs, would make it more interesting. It just nicer currently watching derby games because we are more familiar with the Australian players.

The downside of coarse is, NZ just dominate the Aus teams will all there players in key positions and reduces the game time of developing players. Hopefully, this can be reduced by simply having teams favor home-grown players in their own development academies.
 

stillmissit

Chilla Wilson (44)
Good article by Brett McKay


Back row needs something. Holloway worth a look but we also need more productivity from our tight 5 in the carry.
We need a big ball runner at 6, I would put Valentini back there and tell him to get his bloody head down and aim at the shoulders, his running into contact with his head back like the Scottish sprinter from 'chariots or fire' takes you nowhere in rugby.

Have a look at 2:30 for 20 secs and tell me if Valentini is doing an Eric Liddell impersonation?
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
We need a big ball runner at 6, I would put Valentini back there and tell him to get his bloody head down and aim at the shoulders, his running into contact with his head back like the Scottish sprinter from 'chariots or fire' takes you nowhere in rugby.

Have a look at 2:30 for 20 secs and tell me if Valentini is doing an Eric Liddell impersonation?

His running game is fine, same with Leota's. Even with the 'chariots of fire' style, it's effective. I think it's the breakdown accuracy and work that's lacking from our 6's.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Andrew Slack (58)
That’s my problem with the article…

It reads as if McKay didn’t actually watch the series and then has written an analysis based on one source of statistics, which may not be accurate.

For instance, Valetini had a number of strong carries throughout the series and according to rugbypass averaged 2.2m.

It's also strange that he's fixated on the attacking stats of the Wallabies backrow, while making comparisons to Ellis Genge... a prop.
Yeah he's cherry picked the forward in the English team that made the most meters across all 3 matches. He had a great series tbf but we've all used specific numbers to shape an argument in our favour.

Anyone can go to Rugby Pass and create a narrative out of the player match stats. Owen Farrell only had 8 Running meters on Rugby Pass for the entire series... Don't think they win without him
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Unfortunately Rae Rae you quoted me before I could rewrite my post, but all good...

Overall it's a strange article from McKay - some lazy analysis that doesn't really go to the heart of the Wallabies problems, making odd excuses for some players (Leota and Valetini made Hooper look bad / Wilson on a hiding for nothing) and using some random stats to try and confirm his own pre-conceived feelings.

And while the counterpoint to those rugbypass stats is that they might be generally inflated, it only has Harry Wilson making averaging 1.7m in that test.
 
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Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
The outcome from the series certainly seems to be that we have a hole to fill at 6. Hooper and Valetini certainly seem pretty locked in at 7 and 8 and Samu as the bench backrower.

Leota had two tests and didn't really shine then Wilson struggled in the third.

Feels like there's a good chance Holloway gets a crack at 6.
 
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