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League Targets

PhilClinton

Mark Ella (57)
All I’m saying is when R360 season 2027 rolls around and Tindall announces there will be a new Saudi leg on the tour, no one should act surprised.

TBH the funding situation is probably irrelevant to this forum and the conversation around who is signing etc. so I apologise for bringing it up.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
All I’m saying is when R360 season 2027 rolls around and Tindall announces there will be a new Saudi leg on the tour, no one should act surprised.

TBH the funding situation is probably irrelevant to this forum and the conversation around who is signing etc. so I apologise for bringing it up.

No. It's related. Most people want to figure out where the money is coming from to pay the players.
 

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
It's a travelling league right? So twice a year they will get 4 mens and 2 women's matches played over a weekend at the same location.

You'd need a lot of locals keen on rugby as a sport (or at least an event); supporting one of the 12 teams isn't really going to work
Particularly hard when you consider that almost all the rest of the games will be played in a fairly unfriendly timezone to suit the UK/Euro market they appear to be focused on. The best any Australian/NZ fan base can hope for is maybe 3 events - Australia, Singapore/Hong Kong and Tokyo, but even then that'll be pushing it.
 

Omar Comin'

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Particularly hard when you consider that almost all the rest of the games will be played in a fairly unfriendly timezone to suit the UK/Euro market they appear to be focused on. The best any Australian/NZ fan base can hope for is maybe 3 events - Australia, Singapore/Hong Kong and Tokyo, but even then that'll be pushing it.

American legs wouldn't be so bad either. If rugby is destined to become a big global sport then this is likely the best possible scenario from an Aus/NZ timezone perspective. The likely alternative would be the Top 14/European club rugby becoming the NBA of rugby.
 

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
American legs wouldn't be so bad either. If rugby is destined to become a big global sport then this is likely the best possible scenario from an Aus/NZ timezone perspective. The likely alternative would be the Top 14/European club rugby becoming the NBA of rugby.
Maybe if they're played at prime time in the US, but I fear the more likely outcome is that they'll be played daytime/afternoon to better serve that European market, and keep the kick off timing as consistent as possible across the legs.
 

Sword of Justice

Dick Tooth (41)
R360 delayed for likely a year.

This doesn’t sound great re being unable to answer WR (World Rugby) questions. Interesting points raised about starting the comp in a World Cup year if delayed possibly hindering selection of top talent, though probably not marquee league players. Also interesting that the Women’s organisation in R360 is specifically called out as being unprepared.

I would think that the memorandums are not in perpetuity so this could really harm the player pool quality.
 

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
Going to be hard for them to come back from this I think. Not sure any of their initial agreements would remain valid with the delay and with the increased scepticism this will bring they might have a much harder time getting players to sign on again.
 

PhilClinton

Mark Ella (57)
Makes sense now why there seemed to be a rush on the women’s contracts to be finalised, wanting to review the viability of the player pool.

Several of the players I know who had been offered contracts are still currently what you’d classify as amateur.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
Going to be hard for them to come back from this I think. Not sure any of their initial agreements would remain valid with the delay and with the increased scepticism this will bring they might have a much harder time getting players to sign on again.
Is it? R360 has been referred to as a rebel/breakaway league fairly consistently since it was announced. They might take this time to continue building the competition while looking to address the broader issues brought up by WR (World Rugby) in preparation for another run at it next June.

Or they could lean into the rebel theme and do it anyway.
 

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
Is it? R360 has been referred to as a rebel/breakaway league fairly consistently since it was announced. They might take this time to continue building the competition while looking to address the broader issues brought up by WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby) in preparation for another run at it next June.

Or they could lean into the rebel theme and do it anyway.
Whether or not they can do it as a proper rebel league might depend on the contracts they've been signing - I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of the higher value players had a clause contingent on world rugby approval, or whatever else they needed to ensure ongoing eligibility for their nation. If they lose a decent chunk of them it's unlikely they'll be able to make up for it in time for their end of September deadline.

If they try again next year which seems more likely they may still get up, but with a lot of spent momentum this time around they will probably have a harder go of it even without the world cup. Players/agents will be skeptical, and other pro teams and competitions will likely be much better prepared to face the threat. That article also suggests that player transfer fees my end up being enforced here ("compensation for clubs") which would probably see costs balloon pretty quickly. Some of these questions might be hard for them to answer too - how do they fit with the two different test schedules for men and women for example?

I wouldn't be surprised to see them come back with a less ambitious model to try and get it started, but I can't see how this is anything but a major setback for the competition. Maybe not lethal, but it'll be a monumental effort to keep both investors and prospective players on the hook for a years time.
 

Omar Comin'

Peter Fenwicke (45)
I wouldn't be surprised to see them come back with a less ambitious model to try and get it started, but I can't see how this is anything but a major setback for the competition. Maybe not lethal, but it'll be a monumental effort to keep both investors and prospective players on the hook for a years time.

If the bigger issue is the women's tournament you wonder if they'll opt to go men's only to begin with.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
Whether or not they can do it as a proper rebel league might depend on the contracts they've been signing - I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of the higher value players had a clause contingent on world rugby approval, or whatever else they needed to ensure ongoing eligibility for their nation. If they lose a decent chunk of them it's unlikely they'll be able to make up for it in time for their end of September deadline.

If they try again next year which seems more likely they may still get up, but with a lot of spent momentum this time around they will probably have a harder go of it even without the world cup. Players/agents will be skeptical, and other pro teams and competitions will likely be much better prepared to face the threat. That article also suggests that player transfer fees my end up being enforced here ("compensation for clubs") which would probably see costs balloon pretty quickly. Some of these questions might be hard for them to answer too - how do they fit with the two different test schedules for men and women for example?

I wouldn't be surprised to see them come back with a less ambitious model to try and get it started, but I can't see how this is anything but a major setback for the competition. Maybe not lethal, but it'll be a monumental effort to keep both investors and prospective players on the hook for a years time.

I read in a Telegraph article that in order to achieve sanctioning they need a 75% majority in the WR (World Rugby) vote. That is never going to happen. And I suspect they know this and talk of seeking sanctioning is about justifying launching without sanctioning.

Might also explain the premiums they are offering to players. They may be paying them overs to essentially forego pkaying Test Rugby for a period.

But I also wouldn't be surprised if we see a scaled dowb version for the launch. There were suggestions that they'd look to base it in Dubai. So I could see them running it out of Dubai entirely the first season.
 

Omar Comin'

Peter Fenwicke (45)
But I also wouldn't be surprised if we see a scaled dowb version for the launch. There were suggestions that they'd look to base it in Dubai. So I could see them running it out of Dubai entirely the first season.

I think it'd be dead in the water if they did this. If it starts as a joke it'll never recover. I could imagine a scaled back 4-6 round tournament in cities where they can hype it enough to draw an 'event crowd.'
 
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