2011 Wallaby And Australia A Teams

[pugger]

What would everyones Wallaby team be and Australia A team be for 2011. Id be going with:

Wallaby Team:
1. Benn Robinson
2. Tatafu Polota-Nau
3. James Slipper
4. James Horwill (vc)
5. Nathan Sharpe
6. Rocky Elsom (c)
7. David Pocock
8. Wycliff Palu
9. Will Genia
10. Quade Cooper
11. Drew Mitchell
12. James O'Connor
13. Adam Ashley-Cooper
14. Digby Ioane
15. Kurtley Beale

16. Stephen Moore
17. Ben Alexander
18. Rob Simmons
19. Scott Higginbotham
20. Luke Burgess
21. Berrick Barnes
22. Pat McCabe


Australia A Team:
1. Sekope Kepu
2. Saia Fainga'a
3. Dan Palmer
4. Dean Mumm
5. Dan Vickerman
6. Jarrod Saffy
7. Matt Hodgson
8. Ben McCalman
9. Nick Phipps
10. Matt Giteau (c)
11. Rod Davies
12. Anthony Fainga'a
13. Rob Horne
14. Lachie Turner
15. Mark Gerrard (vc)

16. Adam Freier
17. Ben Daley
18. Van Humphries
19. Radike Samo
20. Richard Kingi
21. Matt To'omua
22. Peter Hynes

 

[Jets]

I am taking it that no one is injured? I don't mind the Wallaby team you have picked. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13 is the only spot I have a problem with but there are few options. Fainga'a might come into the picture if Link keeps him there or Gerrard.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

That Wallaby team suits me.

 

[Slim 293]

I'd prefer to see (roughly)...

Wallaby Team:
1. Benn Robinson
2. Stephen Moore (I understand the man-love for TPN but there's really nothing separating these guys and we all know Deans will stick to the consist and less injury-free Moore)
3. James Slipper
4. James Horwill
5. Nathan Sharpe
6. Rocky Elsom (c)
7. David Pocock
8. Wycliff Palu
9. Will Genia
10. Quade Cooper
11. Drew Mitchell
12. James O'Connor
13. Adam Ashley-Cooper
14. Digby Ioane
15. Kurtley Beale

16. Tatafu Polota-Nau
17. Sekope Kepu
18. Rob Simmons
19. Ben McCalman/Ben Mowen
20. Luke Burgess
21. Matt Giteau
22. Pat McCabe

Australia A Team:
1. Ben Alexander
2. James Hanson
3. Dan Palmer
4. Dean Mumm
5. Dan Vickerman
6. Ben Mowen
7. Matt Hodgson
8. Ita Vaea
9. Nick Phipps
10. Berrick Barnes
11. Rod Davies
12. Anthony Fainga'a
13. Rob Horne
14. Lachie Turner
15. Luke Morahan

16. Saiaa Fainga'a
17. Ben Daley
18. Mark Chisholm
19. Beau Robinson
20. Richard Kingi
21. Matt To'omua (or rather Christian Lealiifano on form)
22. Cooper Vuna

 

[Gnostic]

No Injuries and on recent form:-

Oz 22:-

1. Robinson
2. TPN
3. Slipper
4. Sharpe (C)
5. Horwill
6. Mowen
7. Pocock
8. Palu/vaea
9. Genia
10. Cooper
12. Harris
13. Morahan
11. Mitchell
14. Ioane
15. Beale

16. Moore
17. Kepu
18. Simmons
19. Dennis
20. McCalman
21. Phipps
22. JOC (James O'Connor)


Oz A:-

1. Daley
2. S. Finger
3. Palmer
4. Pyle
5. Douglas
6. Saffy
7. Robinson
8. Vaea/Palu
9. Burgess
10. Lucas/Giteau
12. Giteau/Barnes
13. Horne
11. Davies
14. Cummins
15. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)

16. Hanson/Charles/Whitaker
17. Alexander
18. Wykes
19. Hodgeson
20. Burgess
21. Giteau/Barnes
22. Turner

You will note that untill Elsom and Vickerman play this year to be compared with those in competition to their spots they do not deserve a place. To use a Deansism 'There are no Wallabies yet in 2012' and past incumabancy shouldn't get somebody picked, espcecially Vickerman who was ordinary in his last games in Oz.

 

[qwerty51]

Then why have you picked Pocock who's played 1 game and 5 mins?

Vickerman ordinary in his last games in Oz? Talking about the Wallaby ones or the Tahs..? Because he was outstanding.

 

[Slim 293]

Has Morahan played outside centre?

I forgot about Dennis... he'd certainly be in the mix for Aus A...

I don't think being pushed out to the wings is doing AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) or McCabe any favours right now...

Would prefer to see them in the positions they were originally playing this year... or at least directly swapped around...

That means either one of Giteau, Lilo or To'omua needs to be benched...

 

[Ruggo]

Swap Kepu and Alexander. Swap Hynes and McCabe and I would take Mortlock over AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) if Morty was firing on all cylinders. I would piss Mumm off out of the A team and replace him with Hugh Pyle. Ant Fainga'a may prove a worthy option at 13 also.

 

[Slim 293]

Hynes doesn't look like making the RWC at this stage...

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Yeah, especially if he doesn't play much footy in the S15. It's a shame actually, I rate him a bit.

 

[Slim 293]

He's going to find it hard enough to crack the Reds XV with Morahan finally making the most of his break...

 

[Tank]

Your Wallaby 1-15 is strong Pugger and has my vote.

 

[liquor box]

Those teams look about right to me, I would probably have A Fainga'a in there at OC and I dont think I could fit Rocky into my team either

 

[tranquility]

What about Kimlin? he has to be ahead of Mumm for a locking spot? Has to be atleast in the A squad somewhere.

 

[Slim 293]

Kimlin is another name I completely forgot about...

Elsom and Chapman return for the Brumbies soon so it'll be interesting where they place everyone...

Kimlin at least deserves to shift to the second row with Hand bowing out of the 22 and Chapman on the bench...

 

[Groucho]

Wallaby Team:
1. Benn Robinson
2. Stephen Moore
3. James Slipper
4. James Horwill
5. Nathan Sharpe
6. Rocky Elsom (c)
7. David Pocock
8. Wycliff Palu
9. Will Genia
10. Quade Cooper
11. Drew Mitchell
12. James O'Connor (seems obvious - but...)
13. Adam Ashley-Cooper
14. Digby Ioane
15. Kurtley Beale

16. Tatafu Polota-Nau (the better player but ideal for impact)
17. Sekope Kepu (the form prop in S15 imo)
18. Rob Simmons
19. Dave Dennis
20. Ben McCalman
21. Luke Burgess
22. Matt Giteau

Australia A Team:
1. Ben Alexander
2. James Hanson
3. Dan Palmer
4. Dean Mumm
5. Dan Vickerman
6. Hugh Pyle
7. Beau Robinson
8. Ita Vaea
9. Nick Phipps
10. Berrick Barnes
11. Rod Davies
12. A Fainga'a
13. Rob Horne
14. Lachie Turner
15. Luke Morahan

16. S Fainga'a
17. Ben Daley
18. Ben Mowen
19. Matt Hodgson
20. Richard Kingi
21. Pat McCabe
22. Cooper Vuna

 

[Gnostic]

Swap Kepu and Alexander. Swap Hynes and McCabe and I would take Mortlock over AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) if Morty was firing on all cylinders. I would piss Mumm off out of the A team and replace him with Hugh Pyle. Ant Fainga'a may prove a worthy option at 13 also.

Alexander is a scrum liability. Kepu is not and is just as good elsewhere

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

There seems to be a considerable amount of agreement for the 1st XV. I personally think that Deans is probably pretty close to knowing what his best match day 22 is, which is a good thing in my view. This year is not the time to be further experimenting with the line up. It ought to be pretty settled by now.

 

[Joe Mac]

With no injuries this is where I am at:

Wallaby Team:
1. Benn Robinson
2. Tatafu Polota-Nau
3. James Slipper
4. James Horwill (vc)
5. Nathan Sharpe
6. Rocky Elsom (c)
7. David Pocock
8. Wycliff Palu
9. Will Genia
10. Quade Cooper
11. Drew Mitchell
12. Matt Giteau
13. Stirling Mortlock
14. James O'Connor
15. Kurtley Beale

16. Stephen Moore
17. Ben Alexander
18. Rob Simmons
19. Scott Higginbotham
20. Luke Burgess
21. Berrick Barnes
22. Digby Ioane

 

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Alexander is a scrum liability. Kepu is not and is just as good elsewhere

Kepu was a scrum liability against the crusaders. He's had a pretty easy run of opponents recently, it was a shame Woodcock was ruled out of the weekend we would have learnt something one way or the other.