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2012 Rugby Championship Game 1 Australia vs New Zealand - 18 August

Who will win 2012 Rugby Championship Game 1 between NZ and Australia?

  • The Men in Gold - The Wallabies

    Votes: 50 45.9%
  • The Darkness - The New Zealand Rugby Team

    Votes: 59 54.1%

  • Total voters
    109
  • Poll closed .
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No4918

John Hipwell (52)
Why would I read something that is clearly biased against? As I already stated, this joker's article has no weight imho. Case dismissed!

Yet you are happy to take Henry's heavily biased word as gospel. See the hypocrisy?
 

BDA

Peter Johnson (47)
Why do Channel 9 refuse to show this game live on GEM outside of Brisbane and Sydney? Potentially the biggest game of the Australian rugby calendar this year and it can't even make its way on to the secondary channel. Our code has problems.

Well said. The ARU need to sort this out. I dont know why they simply can just make it a prerequisite for the telecast rights (i.e. whichever channel buys the rights to things like the Bledisloe or the RWC agrees that the games will go out live nationally, save for certain circumstances... Even if it means they have to reduce their take, surely Aus rugby comes out ahead. Our code needs exposure. it's not getting it on free to air tv, nor in our public school. Until they fix that it wil only ever be a sport for people wealthy enough to own foxtel or go to a GSP school. Change that and we'll have the talent to beat the All Blacks...something tells me we wont be able to achieve that before 7:40pm though haha
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Rubbish. As Tordah clearly pointed out, its obvious that this joker went in with the clear goal of trying to discredit Graham Henry's opinions. And sorry.but I think a world cup winning coach's opinion has a little more weight than some nobody on a web forum. Anyway, as soon as I started reading the report, I knew what his "conclusion's" were going to be (and jumping straight to the end, I certainly wasn't disappointed).

Good luck to the Wallabies tonight. All Blacks by 15.
It's actually not rubbish. Henry, by his own admission, stated he looked at the French offences that were not penalised, rather than all the offences. His opinion, therefore, is heavily biased. Perhaps look in depth at what Scott produced, rather than rubbishing it out of hand and formulating an opinion without really looking at the evidence, simply because he had the temerity to disagree with Lord Ted, based on an analytical approach.
 

vismyr

Peter Burge (5)
Yet you are happy to take Henry's heavily biased word as gospel. See the hypocrisy?

Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?

I didn't offer my viewpoint on Graham Henry's comments. I simply said that I don't recognise the validity of this joker's report, regardless of how fancy he's pasted it into a spread sheet.
 

The Red Baron

Chilla Wilson (44)
Why are you referring to Scott as a 'joker'? A bit below the belt there if you ask me. He stated an opinion, his opinion was in contrast to Graham Henry's. If you don't accept the conclusion, that's fine, but don't go calling Scott a joker.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
Staff member
Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?

I didn't offer my viewpoint on Graham Henry's comments. I simply said that I don't recognise the validity of this joker's report, regardless of how fancy he's pasted it into a spread sheet.
I'm not sure, it could have been just after that.
Perhaps tone down the overly aggressive nature of your posts a little next time you go away and come back too?
 

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
Why do Channel 9 refuse to show this game live on GEM outside of Brisbane and Sydney? Potentially the biggest game of the Australian rugby calendar this year and it can't even make its way on to the secondary channel. Our code has problems.

The Nein network strikes again.
 

matty_k

Peter Johnson (47)
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Why would I read something that is clearly biased against? As I already stated, this joker's article has no weight imho. Case dismissed!

But from you own bias, which you are clearly showing, and your statement that bias invalidates any argument you are invalidating your own statement.
The case is still open.



I love circular arguments!
 

Bullrush

John Hipwell (52)
Lior, Cliffy Palu is one of the most overrated players in International Rugby. Sure he's not bad at provincial level, but when it comes to an international game as soon as he's put on his backside you won't see him for the rest of the game. His selection in the team would just add to the already poor 'Waretards'.

I would say that he's excellent against the NH teamsbut less effective against the SH
 
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Waylon

Guest
I'm a huge fan of Fainga'a at 12

That kid is one of the best defenders I've ever seen in either code. his speed and co ordination is exceptional. He goes in low and hard with deadly accuracy and drops much bigger men in their tracks. he gets to his feet quickly to contest the ball or make himself available for the next tackle. His acceleration, speed, fitness and timing is exceptional. Fainga'a has been given an opportunity and he'll aim up. I also feel he is much underrated in attack. His acceleration onto the ball takes us over the advantage line despite his small stature. He reacts quickly and explodes onto the ball.

The good news is that Maybelline Nonu is perhaps the most over rated allblack in the history of rugby. There would be amazing opportunity down the 13 channel if we played AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13. Rob Horne is one of Deans' "protected species" and is ineffective in attack and his defence in 2012 has been soft. I just don't get Deans infatuation with Horne. he fails time and time again.

mcCabe is a plodder. I think we're a huge chance without him clogging up our backline

I like our frontrow. Big, 'ard, aggressive

Our second row is a worry for me. I feel Sharpe's best days are behind him. He just doesn't have the mongrel to belt kiwis into submission. Sitaleki has the mongrel and size but not the talent.

I'm liking Higgers at 8. He has a bit of aggro, and go forward. I like his combination with Genia at 9.

Pocock is well hyped. He always finishes second to Mccaw......even when we have double teamed Mccaw with two open sides playing 6 and 7. McCaw is still king........even with a crippling foot injury, concussion etc etc. Mccaw shows the remarkable resilience and tenacity that wallabies can only look on with curiosity and admiration. That bloke has a special motor and it's spelt DESIRE.

If we are to win this match, the wallaby backrow has to aim up and win the collisions at the breakdown. Dennis has a massive role to play. I'm prepared to give him a chance after his stellar season for the Tahs. This is a Bledisloe test in a series we haven't won for ten years though. No time to "learn test rugby". Deliver. The kiwis need to be belted backwards and this is your task. Deliver!

The bench. Deans gets it wrong again.

Phipps? dead set! What does Deans see in this half tracker?

Mitchell? has had less rugby than Cooper who is out "because he he hasn't had enough rugby"

Samo? had one good game last year. Consistency in gold has been poor

It's Link time. I'm sick of wallaby mediocrity
 

Joe Blow

Peter Sullivan (51)
12 is Fainga'as best position no doubt. Needs to have a huge game to keep SBW quiet and needs to be careful about rushing out of the line. They will be expecting it.
If he can nail Sonny B a few times early on it will help to get the Wobs going in the right direction.
If there was ever a test where Timani could repay Robbies faith, this is the one!
 

Bon

Ward Prentice (10)
Well I am looking forward to the game this evening. The two top teams in the world going hard at it. On any given day either one can topple the other.I can tell you there is just as much nervousness on this side of the ditch as some of you blokes are displaying. Let's all hope for a great game. Cheers.
 
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vudu

Guest
Frustrated that Mark Gerrard was overlooked so many times over the last couple of years. He played some of the most incredible rugby at the Rebels! Always able to conjure up some magic with ball-in-hand, and very solid in defence, with one of the best kicks in the game. Has been in far better form than some of the usual backs that Deans persists with! Such a versatile player and always a great inclusion against the all blacks, especially with his size, toughness and experience. Sadly, we'll probably never see him playing on Aus soil again.

Also hope to see Hugh Pyle and Cadeyrn Neville play for the wallabies real soon. Huge talent!
 
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