Sydney Subbies 2024

[Pfitzy]

Last year they played Jeffrey Cup as the top 4 of Div 5 ladder, and Meldrum as the 5-8 playoff. Whether than happens again will depend on structure.

In terms of "regular" competitions - I imagine most clubs in First Div still have a 5th Grade, so Sutherland isn't dead yet. Similarly Richardson and 4th Grade in Div 2.

Some cups have lain idle previously so it isn't necessarily the end of the road. Need an upward trajectory from here of course...

 

[Pfitzy]

Div 1: https://rugbyresults.fusesport.com/page/Division-One-x-603-132-601.html

Div 2: https://rugbyresults.fusesport.com/page/Division-Two-x-604-132-602.html

Div 3: https://rugbyresults.fusesport.com/page/Division-Three-x-605-132-603.html

Div 4: https://rugbyresults.fusesport.com/page/Division-Four-x-606-132-604.html

Div 5: https://rugbyresults.fusesport.com/page/Division-Five-x-607-132-605.html

Div 6: https://rugbyresults.fusesport.com/page/Division-Six-x-608-132-606.html

 

[TheBigArvo]

Other clubs do it as well where the size warrants it. I'd like to pay a canteen manager, but then other volunteers start to wonder why their hard work doesn't get rewarded, financially. Balancing act.

This is the big question for me. Paying coaches and people to work in the canteen but then someone on your committee is meant go above and beyond and get nothing back for there role. I’d rather pay you Pfitzy for your hard work and have the guys put in the effort in the canteen

 

[Pfitzy]

I’d rather pay you Pfitzy for your hard work and have the guys put in the effort in the canteen

Mate, if Powerball comes off for me on Thursday I'll set up a trust for the club and reward myself appropriately

 

[Heavyd]

This is the big question for me. Paying coaches and people to work in the canteen but then someone on your committee is meant go above and beyond and get nothing back for there role. I’d rather pay you Pfitzy for your hard work and have the guys put in the effort in the canteen

This is the big question for me. Paying coaches and people to work in the canteen but then someone on your committee is meant go above and beyond and get nothing back for there role. I’d rather pay you Pfitzy for your hard work and have the guys put in the effort in the canteen

Problem is the players give away to many freebies to mates! Also when the bar gets 10 deep they go missing as its too stressful and they want to watch the footy. Better just to have the whole thing outsourced.

 

[Heure]

So any cups to be added to the 'not contested' list for 2024?
Sutherland and Richardson all bar gone in 2023, Nicholson used to be Div 3 4ths (I think), now colts, Campbell gone, Radford relegated to Halligan style colts, Walker gone, Noice gone.

Competition	Division	Grade	Prize	Kick-Off
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 01	1st Grade	Kentwell Cup	15:15​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 01	2nd Grade	Burke Cup	14:00​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 01	1st Colts	Barbour Cup	12:45​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 01	3rd Grade	Whiddon Cup	11:40​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 01	4th Grade	Judd Cup	10:45​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 01	5th Grade	Sutherland Cup	09:30​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 02	1st Grade	Barraclough Cup	15:15​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 02	2nd Grade	Stockdale Cup	14:00​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 02	1st Colts	Robertson Cup	12:45​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 02	3rd Grade	Blunt Cup	11:40​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 02	4th Grade	Richardson Cup	10:45​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 03	1st Grade	Clark Cup	15:15​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 03	2nd Grade	Farrant Cup	14:00​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 03	1st Colts	Radford Cup	12:45​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 03	3rd Grade	Campbell Cup	11:40​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 03	4th Grade	Nicholson Cup	10:45​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 04	1st Grade	McLean Cup	15:15​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 04	2nd Grade	Grose Cup	14:00​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 04	3rd Grade	Walker Cup	12:55​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 05	1st Grade	Jeffrey Cup	15:15​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 05	2nd Grade	Noice Cup	14:00​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Division 06	1st Grade	Meldrum Cup	15:15​
NSW Suburban Rugby	Other	1st Grade	Halligan Cup	15:15​

Subbies championship is not contested as the limp wristed board decide on relegation and promotions.

Will Waverley field a colts this year? Mosman finish 2nd last? More chance winning the thunder ball than understanding the rationale on what gets discussed at the trough.

 

[Filipo Daugunu]

Anyone got championship or ladder predictions for Jeffrey Cup?

 

[Wee Jimmy McGee]

Hello lol

 

[Prodigy]

Anyone got championship or ladder predictions for Jeffrey Cup?

I reckon it's hard to tell because clubs are so influx at the moment.

 

[Peter Parkerr]

Hearing Drummoyne is ready for a big season, but the big rumours are coming from across the bridge at Boronia.

HH struggling with numbers at this point in time and a few are very concerned.

Have they missed their window ? And will we see another team come and go in and out of kentwell so quickly!

I think the top 4 could look very different this year, only time will tell.

 

[The Waverley Walrus]

I think Forest will be contenders for kentwell this year

 

[Heavyd]

Hearing Drummoyne is ready for a big season, but the big rumours are coming from across the bridge at Boronia.

HH struggling with numbers at this point in time and a few are very concerned.

Have they missed their window ? And will we see another team come and go in and out of kentwell so quickly!

I think the top 4 could look very different this year, only time will tell.

Is this smoke and mirrors? Pre Season hasn't even started yet for most.

 

[Pfitzy]

Is this smoke and mirrors?

In a Subbies thread? On GAGR?!!

 

[Filipo Daugunu]

Got another Jeffrey Cup question.... is there any talk of changes with teams in Jeffrey this year or has a draw come out yet?, I cant find one anywhere.

 

[The Ghost of Bernie]

Got another Jeffrey Cup question.... is there any talk of changes with teams in Jeffrey this year or has a draw come out yet?, I cant find one anywhere.

No draw as of yet but season will start on 13th April. Reckon it will be mid to late March before there is an official draw as Clubs get an idea of player numbers as preseason gets underway.
Going on last years Jeffery Cup plus adding Clubs that may drop down and subtracting Clubs that may not have numbers, I think there could be somewhere between 10-14 sides which potentially means a single Jeffery Cup with the above estimated numbers or splitting into two conferences based on location. Time will tell.

 

[Pfitzy]

Need to do the following:

1) Sort out who is in Third Division (questions around 2 Grades + how Colts work in with that)
2) Work out who is going to have the 2 Grades for Fourth Division
3) From whoever is left, figure out the Fifth Division situation, including finals structure. The splitting of top 4/next 4 seems very popular.

 

[Pfitzy]

Last year:

Div 3 - 7 clubs
Div 4 - 10 clubs
Div 5 - 11 clubs
Total = 28 + Hornsby = 29 for this year, pending other club status'

Not that far away from 4 Divisions of 8 if Brothers and Terrey Hills can get going. We'd be back to 6 Divisions that way.

You could also look at having a couple of Divisions at 7 clubs. Not ideal, but IMHO it is good to have full Home & Away rounds.

 

[Denistone_Dennis]

Any communication from Penrith Emus?

 

[Pfitzy]

Any communication from Penrith Emus?

I saw their womens team is playing Jack Scott Cup via the Pirates' insta

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[KentwellCup>ShuteShield]

Hearing Drummoyne is ready for a big season, but the big rumours are coming from across the bridge at Boronia.

HH struggling with numbers at this point in time and a few are very concerned.

Have they missed their window ? And will we see another team come and go in and out of kentwell so quickly!

I think the top 4 could look very different this year, only time will tell.

Surely not about HH.

Top 4 will be interesting. For CC top 4, even though its early days ill predict in no particular order who will make it -

Colleagues - Always strong, never seem faulter - always strong numbers with high quality players.

Waverley - Strong expat core, combined with good club culture seems to keep the numbers strong. Good quality players. If they can actually secure a colties side they will be a shoe in for CC.

Lindfield - The newcomers will eager to prove themselves and have lots of depth and cohesion in their club.

Drummoyne - Have building throughout the past years and will continue to climb back into the ranks of the div 1 elite.