LeCheese
Peter Johnson (47)
This is the first step towards that; can't run before you can walk.
Australian Rugby / RA
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Strewthcobber
Mark Ella (57)
Is this suggesting the team captain should have a role in team selection?
That seems.....unwise
LeCheese
Peter Johnson (47)
Could go both ways - to me it reads like captains have previously been able to provide input, which could have either been completely ignored or followed in its entirety. Sounds like they're putting some boundaries around it.
Putting my conspiracy cap on, maybe that's a reason Hooper and Eddie didn't see eye-to-eye.
The Ghost of Raelene
Andrew Slack (58)
Eddie had an ego and I think didn't like senior guys. Poor guy felt threatened. I like Skelton but he would have been a polite quite Captain under Eddies thumb. Next pick, Porecki is arguably a lucky Wallaby and also isn't going threaten him.
Sword of Justice
Vay Wilson (31)
I think perhaps rather than starting again the recommendations seem to be that RA should just start.
Things like an integrated model, systemic and standardised metrics, leadership model, transparency in selections, training principles, cultural inclusiveness, high performance development - this is surely square 1 for any public organisation. It must be even more of a joke organisation than one would have thought.
Ignoto
John Thornett (49)
I mean, Eddie is on camera where he instructs his supporting coaching staff not to tell the players Will Skelton is out because the players "would run to their agents".
You can see why the players felt bugger all trust or transparency with the coaching team.
Dctarget
John Eales (66)
What does running to their agents imply?
Strewthcobber
Mark Ella (57)
No doubt about this. I just don't see what bringing the captain into the selection tent achieves, especially if their own position is under threat.
The Australian cricket team used to occasionally tear itself apart on overseas tours because of this
And which captain? Eddie had 6 of them
Joe Schmidt was pretty good on Rugby Heaven this week. It's worth a watch.
I think it was refreshing after Eddie that he didn't really make promises beyond that he'd work hard.
An interesting point when asked about senior players was saying that a coach only does so much of the coaching and a lot of it will always come from players coaching and learning from each other. It certainly seems like he'll be less quick to discard experienced players from his squad compared with Jones.
I think it was refreshing after Eddie that he didn't really make promises beyond that he'd work hard.
An interesting point when asked about senior players was saying that a coach only does so much of the coaching and a lot of it will always come from players coaching and learning from each other. It certainly seems like he'll be less quick to discard experienced players from his squad compared with Jones.
Ignoto
John Thornett (49)
That the players aren't trust worthy and they'll tell their agents Will is out of the upcoming match and the Fijians could alter their preparations as the agents would blab to the press.
Wilson
David Codey (61)
Apparently the world cup overspend was $2.6 million:
Edit: seems it was considered "unapproved spending" and was the reason for some staff sackings:
Edit: seems it was considered "unapproved spending" and was the reason for some staff sackings:
It would be interesting to get a full breakdown of it.
Was the $2.6m over budget based on a budget done before Eddie Jones took over?
How much was payouts to assistant coaches who were sacked and potentially Dave Rennie?
How much was on player payments vs what was budgeted for? Wallaby contracted players such as Hooper, Ala'alatoa, Hodge missing the RWC squad certainly adds to overall costs because you're then making additional match payments.
Was the $2.6m over budget based on a budget done before Eddie Jones took over?
How much was payouts to assistant coaches who were sacked and potentially Dave Rennie?
How much was on player payments vs what was budgeted for? Wallaby contracted players such as Hooper, Ala'alatoa, Hodge missing the RWC squad certainly adds to overall costs because you're then making additional match payments.
Wilson
David Codey (61)
Given this is being described as unapproved overspend I can't see how it could be things like player payments or payout for sacked assistants. More likely it's for bringing in extra consultants, travel and accommodation spending, cattle prods and possibly things like flying the players partners in for the going away.
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LeCheese
Peter Johnson (47)
I mean, the assumption is that someone would have to approve those sorts of purchases though right? They're a bit different to putting a boozy 'networking' lunch on the corporate Amex
I assume it's a bit of an all of the above.
If it is purely from managers and above committing to expenditure that wasn't approved and effectively "going rogue" then it's way worse. Particularly as we know there had to have been a heap of extra cash spent from sacking Rennie and co.
Wilson
David Codey (61)
I don't see how player payments (as agreed to by RUPA in the CBA) could be part of it, otherwise you've got a situation where a head coach needs approval to pick guys from outside the wallaby top up group or where injuries could just easily create "unapproved overspending". Similarly I would've thought payouts for sacked coaches would need proper sign off from on high, otherwise I'm not sure who could've ticked off on it that has subsequently been sacked for it.
I'm guessing the approvals process itself was pretty lax, possibly you have someone like Eddie bulldozing his way through it as well. Alongside everything else that went down last you had both Andy Marinos and Peter Conde leaving RA early in the year, with Conde not replaced, that transition period can't have helped the process. But there's definitely room for it - this is from the reporting over the Wallaroos anger about partners getting flown in at the time:
Whether or not that investigation was legit or someone covering there arse, that's exactly the sort of "unapproved spending" that someone's eventually getting fired over.
Strewthcobber
Mark Ella (57)
Previous reporting on it, although it must have been pretty nice accommodation to get to $2.6m
www.planetrugby.com
RA boss would ‘make same call again’ despite Eddie Jones disaster
Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan has discussed the decision to bring Eddie Jones in as Wallabies head coach after removing Dave Rennie.
www.planetrugby.com
Wilson
David Codey (61)
Very bloody nice, given they would've budgeted for the main team to be there at least until the semi's if not the final.Previous reporting on it, although it must have been pretty nice accommodation to get to $2.6m
RA boss would ‘make same call again’ despite Eddie Jones disaster
Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan has discussed the decision to bring Eddie Jones in as Wallabies head coach after removing Dave Rennie.
I'm not saying that these items would be unapproved spending. I am assuming that the entirety of the $2.6m isn't unapproved spending that resulted in people getting fired. A chunk of it is just going over budget for various reasons.
Tomikin
Simon Poidevin (60)
To be honest, I thought most of the staff in that should already be in place. I would have suspected we probably just have these charters/process in place but like the Australian Constitution, no one knows what they say or follows them...
Just a bunch of wankers gathered in a room to say here's our mission statement with no substance.