Wilson
Tim Horan (67)
Sounds like Faessler was set to play ahead of Pollard until a calf twinge ruled him out, and Porecki is a late scratching with BPA called up:
Not exactly idea prep...
Not exactly idea prep...
Wallabies v Lions - 3rd Test, Accor Stadium, Saturday 2 August
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Wow, I wasn't thinking about that gulf in caps. Makes me even more indignant at how much the home nations are carrying on like pork chops at how much they beat us by
Comical how this shit keeps happening.
Honestly, we are either really unlucky or don’t know how to prepare these lads for games.
All year it’s “rest these players here”, “rest these players there”. Does fuck all when we can’t get Valetini right for the most important series in years.
Super rugby au can’t come quick enough the players need more games in the legs.
Compare this to the lions squad. Bugger all
injuries and they’ve played how many games!? Only a couple of soft tissue ones.
Super rugby au can’t come quick enough the players need more games in the legs.
Compare this to the lions squad. Bugger all
injuries and they’ve played how many games!? Only a couple of soft tissue ones.
With the amount of significant training injuries we have had over the past few years, it certainly begs that question. It is too high a number to just be bad luck.
rugbyAU
Chilla Wilson (44)
Fuck why does this shit always happen to us
molman
John Thornett (49)
It's not like the Lions haven't had their share of injuries.
How does it compare to others would point to if it's unusual or not. All Blacks have had their share of injuries too.
Lots of possible context to what players might be carrying already and upcoming games which mean calls might be made with that in mind. Better to get players back when truly fit than to break some now and have them sidelined for a long period. We also need to move for this mentality that only our best 15 can win. Need depth if we're going to make much of a showing at the next RWC.
Yeah, I'm firing off an opinion without all the facts. Lions have had their injuries but in the tour, it feels like they haven't been as significant (Perhaps the depth negating that feeling). Tuipulotu feels like the only one that's occurred on the training paddock? But if anyone has some examples/incidents then quite happy to hear them. Pollock maybe (but he's green).
It would be very difficult to attain but our number of late scratching's would surely compare strongly to other teams.
I get context, I'm not wanting players playing when they're at risk of doing more serious harm. It probably just highlights the depth we don't have in our squad. The 3rd tier should help with this.
I actually really like BPA. Always have. He'll help Nonngoor in the scrum 2nd half. And Pollard has enough experience now see how he goes starting. He'll have more time to settle into the game. But man, I just loath the disruption.
PhilClinton
Mark Ella (57)
We don’t know the actual severity of some of these injuries.
But things being reported as not playing due to tightness or a twinge gives the impression that we keep putting blokes on ice for future games and we lose momentum. You wonder how many of these blokes are happy to lace up the boots but the medical staff are too cautious.
But things being reported as not playing due to tightness or a twinge gives the impression that we keep putting blokes on ice for future games and we lose momentum. You wonder how many of these blokes are happy to lace up the boots but the medical staff are too cautious.
Strewthcobber
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
This caution might be the result of the review into all of those Achilles ruptures where they kept playing people with minor injuries
PhilClinton
Mark Ella (57)
Yes true - and it does seem to be the 100kg+ blokes they’re sitting out in these instances. I’m not sure there is direct science proving this but the bigger the body, the higher the risk of the rupture.
We are seeing it happen more and more in the NBA.
molman
John Thornett (49)
I think we can acknowledge what is reported might not always be the complete story.
At some point you have to trust that Joe and his team know what they're doing. You don't think a detail orientated person like Joe would have reviewed everything, looking at the S&C programs, asking questions. He's been in multiple international setups now.
Can there sometimes still be issues like when the Tahs broke every forward available to them. Sure. But I'm sure Joe would be all over issues like a hard training pitch
molman
John Thornett (49)
There does seem to be some potential link.
There are some population etc. studies which point to the fact though more in the high BMI/obesity side of things rather than professional athletes, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Wilson
Tim Horan (67)
While we have definitely had injury management issues in the past and we may still have them now, but I'm not sure the hooker issue here is that deep - Porecki is made of glass and Faessler is coming off an injury interrupted season, only just back to match fitness. We probably should've had a 4th hooker with the squad from the start.
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Strewthcobber
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
My theory - based on the inevitable and universal comments from our international coaches that players aren't fit enough from Super Rugby - is that the players get worked harder in Australian training sessions in an attempt to get fitter than our opposition do.
The NH international coaches can't flog their players, they never get enough time to get the benefit of the training. South African and NZ teams don't need to, because we just have to work harder than them to stay even on talent
The NH international coaches can't flog their players, they never get enough time to get the benefit of the training. South African and NZ teams don't need to, because we just have to work harder than them to stay even on talent
Strewthcobber
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Gained 3, but lost 1, and gave up 2 penalties.
rugbyAU
Chilla Wilson (44)
True - I thought he should have been the starting hooker coming in to the series