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Let's give the bloke some space. I'm with you on where my prejudice suspects it's going. But for now some space.

So the issue here is holding Waratahs to account for something outside of their control, on a player they were encouraged to take on by Rugby Australia (as I understand it) that is not expressly covered in the rules - at the disadvantage of an Australian franchise over their Kiwi competition. Wasn't there...

All of this pre-supposes a view that what has been seen in last years games is reflected in preseason training. Personally I hope he's training the house down.

Are these rules for Australian franchises or Super P franchises?

No-one is worried about the discussion being on a public forum. It's about diverting the thread. Again. And some of the stuff being said is offensive - unsubstantiated and uncorroborated claims about impact on key players etc. And this myopic compulsion to bring Deans into anything and...

I'm fine if "Thorn will be gone" EXCEPT if that was because of rumour.

Not exactly, but without doubt on the back of Thorn up to 2023 I'd be making sure there were strong options on the table. If I had no choice but to make a decision right now, against a known strong option and Thorn as he has proven himself - yes Thorn doesn't make the cut. If the options were...

Reg, is this the case? I would have thought that Thorn has had his chances, been offered huge latitude, and it is time for a change. I have respect for the guy, but I'd think it would be good for him as well to try different pastures. I wouldn't want to lose our investment in the bloke to...

Back to the same earlier discussion and "the thread that shall not be named".

rodha, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you have said here. But can you give it a break, mate? This is the Wallabies thread and we are in 2023. If you want to talk Quade, try these themes. 1. Can Quade recover to match fitness in time for RWC? 2. Would that justify his selection as...

Seems like there can be plenty of sensitivity to "that" thread. My earlier post had exactly nil intent or consideration around that set of discussions. Tell you what seems odd to me - An Aussie based rugby fan backing off with rugby watching habits but focusing on Kiwi games. For teams that I...

We moved recently. Fortunately I don't yet have a baked on club alignment so will let Easts go. I'll be joining Brothers this year. Not sure how often I'll get there but it's in my thinking.

OK let me start the season the same.

It was a pity. A real 'what could have been'.

Yep. Did not last anywhere near long enough. Wasn't it ended by Quade injury?

Awesome connection at 12 with, err, Quade. Thought it was going to be the way for a while there.

I've been the same. In the past I would avidly watch all Super Rugby games every week. Then it was just the Australian games, no Kiwi derbies. Then it was All Reds games, and all Aussie derbies. Last year, mostly just the Reds. I have been watching more club though.

That chart you posted - balance looks pretty much ideal.

So true. He’d learn quickly the quality of his step. If it’s good, no amount of snorting and pawing is going to help the flanker looking silly. Edit: I speak as a ex lower grade schoolboy flanker with more enthusiasm than class.

Interesting I was about to follow this thread to a post from rodha - the first of his I agree with. Winning against Italy would have completely changed Rennie's reputation and he would have been much more solid. BUT, I suspect what drove that call was Eddie Jones becoming available. I'm not...