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    Australian Rugby / RA

    I did not know the following [the bold bit is interesting, and I wonder who pays] but leaving aside the question of who pays. This is if nothing else brave, I guess the reason is so they have control over who they sell to at what price. Could or should rugby do the same. The NFL [gridiron] in...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Interesting times ahead, a lot of what I call level two codes have moved and are in play across newer platforms. Will be interesting to see how we stack up against the Super Cars to 7 & the A-L to 10. To hard to compare level 1 to say level 3 as an example as the sheer amount of media and hype...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Dave I respect your passion, and believe you believe you are correct in your analysis. You’re, analysis, I suspect is reflective of many within the Rugby family. My simple reply is I think you’re, interpretation of base data is flawed due to a lack of context and nuance pertaining to that...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Dave Where to start, yes three teams in the A-L failed, Auckland was taken over and moved. Gold Coast & North QLD both Lowy WCB teams and both failed. Today the A-L is talking of expanding. Rugby folk need to be a tad more careful when analysing the A-L, because the A-L has gone threw...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Dave Everything depends on how these things are measured. The Giants and Suns, have increased the value of the AFL media deal, have helped the AFL gain government and business influence in NSW & QLD, and generally rate reasonably well. They lack similar crowds to other AFL matches but are...
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    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    Fairfax reporting on the weekend that APL (new body in charge of the aleague). AnyWho Fairfax report that APL is close to selling a 30% stake in APL for 130 million. The group being sold to specialise in under valued assets and building content. Fairfax reported almost all the 130 m wold go...
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    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    Has anyone done an analysis of FTA ratings, and does anyone know how many rugby subscribers there are on Stan.
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    The relevance is we are not doing anything or discussing new systems / structures. Your previous post said people wanted change so my comment about history repeating itself was wrong. Discussing new structures / systems should be happening now and be well advanced. We have agreed to maintain...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Adam No doubt you were a fan of the No Body Really Cares competitions. Both failed badly. IMO they failed because of a lack of support from all rugby stakeholders. What happen the guys in charge from start to finish developed it in six months or less. That's why it failed huge assumptions...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Let me hark back to my offerings in the past. * We need a NDC. * We need time to determine the nature of the NDC, i.e. teams, model, consensus among rugby stakeholders,, model structure i.e. my idea use USA franchise licence systems. *We need time to both develop the above into an acceptable...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    ^^^^^^^ There is a hard head school of thinking thats says the more you spend if you spend wisely the better you will be. Its actually hard to argue with as evidence world over says that's right and when some team breaks that mold then they become famous almost because they won with less money...
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    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    Interesting info from Fairfax today on a blind auction for the EPL rights. Fairfax provided a break down of the reach of the various streaming services...
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    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    Solid figures...
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    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    Its way way way better than most give credit for especially for our broadcasters. Consider, the AFL & NRL media deals . The AFL has 198 competition games + finals so lets say 210 games, The AFL gets 480 million or 2.25 million per game League has 192 competition games, plus finals, say 202...
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    Broadcast options for Australian Rugby

    The 263K is an OK figure. Sorta depends on what you expect. For the most part the 263K was withing 50% of the AFL & NRL final series. We are in a rebuilding phase. From last week, all in metro only Midweek Socceroos V Vietnam [10:30 start] == 140K Friday AFL == 644K League == 519 K...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Dan What I said and have repeatedly said, is the decision to effectively let a media company design our competition to be shown & hidden away on pay TV, and to turn our state teams into club teams, was insane. The SR structure, did not suit player development. What SR via News did was keep...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    So so so true mate. I have been arguing this before 2000. The undeliverable naive foolish or whatever words can be used to describe of how we trusted a company like News to develop the future of rugby was insane. Yet akin to Trump voters in the US today rugby folk could not see the bleeding...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Quick, This has always been my argument, and why my beloved Woodies and there treatment along with other Shute teams is so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so misunderstood. Many over the years have a go at me because I class rugby as a challenger code to the more dominate...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    20 years of decline, across all areas, crowds, ratings, player numbers, player quality numbers, We sign a new three-year media deal, gives us time to start the growth. Question then is how do we grow, and how do we measure growth success. Is it increased ratings, increased juniors, increased...
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    Where to for Super Rugby?

    OK OK OK Like where you’re going with that post. However, lets look beyond the current media deal, to the next media deal and where our revenues will come from. Basketball & Football & Netball are all in various stages of developing models away from traditional models for gathering revenue...
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