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Allen Oxlade (6)
#22 Vic surely the best "do" of the tournament
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Both of them. In fact Qld 2 beat Qld1 in the play off for 5th or was it 7th? And they got 11 in the 2 Schoolboys teams.
Both of them. In fact Qld 2 beat Qld1 in the play off for 5th or was it 7th? And they got 11 in the 2 Schoolboys teams.
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Larry Dwyer (12)
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I wasnt taking anything away from GPS 16s last year but the CAS mob weren't happy the selectors dicked them around with positional changes but it obviously happens.
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Vay Wilson (31)
It was close. 25-16 or thereabouts. Pres A deserved the win, but CAS were not helped by mid match selection changes at request of selectors.
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The 16's is also about man management.
They play 4 intense games over a Saturday and Sunday with a squad of 23 players with sometimes injured on the day.
I remember 2015 CAS lost two kids early in the first game then had to try work with the rest of the players for four games.
They play 4 intense games over a Saturday and Sunday with a squad of 23 players with sometimes injured on the day.
I remember 2015 CAS lost two kids early in the first game then had to try work with the rest of the players for four games.
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Vay Wilson (31)
16s is 3 games, but agree man management is important through judicious use of the bench. But man management wasn't the reason for the changes - it was selectors. As it happened, the 2 players moved on instruction were both selected for NSW in the 'new' positions, so it worked for them, but not so much for the team.
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Bob Davidson (42)
Score update on Qld2 v Vic??
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Arch Winning (36)
BM,
Certainly appreciate your openness and honesty.
I was there today and there are a number of Waverley boys,parents,and supporters who are understandable very upset.
But have said nothing, just hope tomorrow that fairness and sanity return, in tomorrows matches, but suspect it maybe too late.
Regardless of school, how can boys be selected in a team, based on a large number of school games, believe they are the NSW1 no 10 and 12, and have that taken away from them, by what, on the surface, appears to be favouritism elsewhere.
I believe coaches should be bound to coach the team, by number, that has been handed to them, not be able to talk to an associate or mate, after the fact,and then disregard what you would have thought was a robust selection process.
Yes this is a serious comp, no doubt about that, but we need to remember that these are still boys, and do not deserve this type of deflating treatment.
They have trained so hard and then this happens.
If anyone can shed any light on this there are a lot of people who would like a logical explanation.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
and the year before (maybe it was the year before that) they had McGregor at 15 ahead of his school mate Freeman who from memory was 15 in GPS 1s when McGregor was GPS1's at 10.
Despite that McGregor, who was already carrying a knee injury, made it through to Oz Schools at 10.
These anomalies appear every year.
Presumably they have a depth chart and if they don't they should so that the Barker coach doesn't just ring up the Knox coach and make a deal. Would also overcome the need to name shadows.
Anyone know whats going on North of the Tweed for 2 years now?
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Jim Lenehan (48)
I think the QLD boys on the whole all worthy of selection last year.
I think the problem last year and probably this year as well is that Rugby didn't start till term 3, and selectors would have taken that into consideration. The boys had played very little rugby and not match fit at that stage.
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Arch Winning (36)
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Chilla Wilson (44)
We've also got to remember we assign values to the numbers players wear that the coaches might not.
Currently, most coaching systems have some variation of 10s defending deep and 15s play making. Sometimes they play right/left playmaker for example. Based on what a team is doing, 10/15 can be interchangeable.
It's best to think of players as having been selected for traits and skills, not positions.
It's the same debate we had last year with Chieka playing Folau at 15 not 13 and Chieks basically said "they attack in the same channels anyway". Unless you're in champ, it's hard to tell what's up.
Currently, most coaching systems have some variation of 10s defending deep and 15s play making. Sometimes they play right/left playmaker for example. Based on what a team is doing, 10/15 can be interchangeable.
It's best to think of players as having been selected for traits and skills, not positions.
It's the same debate we had last year with Chieka playing Folau at 15 not 13 and Chieks basically said "they attack in the same channels anyway". Unless you're in champ, it's hard to tell what's up.
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Allen Oxlade (6)
It would appear the coaches of NSW 1 have pretty big egos - or maybe they were just giving the best players a rest before QLD 2 game tomorrow
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Arch Winning (36)
amirite,
I understand your knowledge here and sensitivity to this but I am pretty sure the boys etc don't know this, they believe they are chosen as informed, and so does everyone else.
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Arch Winning (36)
FP,
Hope you are right but so far over 2 days no sign of normality, or what is right.
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Arch Winning (36)
amirite,
I know you are trying to be nice but I was in the thick of it today, and the disappointment was most obvious, and so some of the fathers had provide pep talks so they would keep their heads high.
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