Bakies Banned for 3 Weeks

[mark_s]

For striking Waugh. I still haven't seen the incident myself but this could be quite significant given the Bulls run of games over the next 3 weeks.

Bulls lock Bakkies Botha handed three-match ban for striking Phil Waugh

April 14, 2009 Bulls lock Bakkies Botha will miss Friday's crucial Super 14 clash against the Brumbies after receiving a three-week ban for striking.

Botha appeared before a SANZAR judicial hearing for striking New South Wales Waratahs skipper Phil Waugh during the Bulls' 20-6 win over their hosts at Sydney Football Stadium on Saturday night.

Judicial officer Dennis Wheelahan QC (Quade Cooper) categorised the offence as mid-range where the applicable entry point is a five-week penalty.

The period of suspension was reduced to three weeks, precluding Botha from playing up to and including May 2.

Botha will miss the Bulls matches against the Brumbies in Canberra, the Chiefs in Pretoria and the Western Force in another home fixture in South Africa.

A right to appeal is available to Botha and the Bulls.



AAP

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2 Chiefs 8 5 0 3 65 3 4 27
3 Bulls 8 6 0 2 49 1 2 27
4 Waratahs 9 6 0 3 13 1 2 27
5 Hurricanes 8 5 0 3 10 2 2 24
6 Blues 8 4 0 4 -1 2 5 23
7 Highlanders 8 4 0 4 30 3 3 22
8 Crusaders 8 4 1 3 3 3 1 22
9 Brumbies 8 5 0 3 -4 0 2 22
10 Western Force 8 3 1 4 10 2 3 19
11 Stormers 8 2 0 6 9 6 1 15
12 Lions 8 2 0 6 -83 3 3 14
13 Reds 8 2 0 6 -50 3 2 13
14 Cheetahs 8 1 0 7 -94 2 1 7
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* B>4t = Bonus Points awarded if a team scores four or more tries
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[Blue]

Well

I keep waiting to see if there is additional footage, but I think whats being shown on Fox is it. He pushes Waugh on the side of his face. Grant it, an aggressive push but hardly a strike. If that's a strike, Is suggest that if you ever need representation, get Dennis Wheelahan QC (Quade Cooper). He'll believe anything you say or show him.

If there is no more footage this decision was based on it will be a total farce.

 

[fatprop]

It was as bad a strike as Dunning's in SA of a few years ago.

What goes around, comes around

 

[Scarfman]

I haven't seen it, but Bakkies is always due for some cooling-off time in my opinion.

Guilty!

 

[PaarlBok]

This is a joke, banning Bakkies for blowing a flippen kiss to Waugh. Well the Brutes will just have to move on without him and Matfield. Pretty sure they may miss a bit in the lineouts but Pakslae will give something extra with Stegman back in the team. Wilhelm Steenkamp sure is one of our best young lock talents and will be itching to get a change after he fulled in last year when Matfield was in France. This bit of a break for Bakkies may help the Springbok course in a month time.

 

[disco]

Good Bakkies is a cockhead complete tosser, Bulls without Matfield this weekend also.

Good news for the Bumboys.

 

[Blue]

It was as bad a strike as Dunning's in SA of a few years ago.

What goes around, comes around

That was a punch if I recall correctly. This was a push.

It's a total fucking joke.

This isn't tiddly winks. The game is being sanitised to a ridiculous level.

Please produce evidence of the "punch" if you are goign to draw parallels to what was a punch. Else you're talkign through your arse and you know it.

Alas, his reputation has cost him. He is a hot headed bloody idiot.

 

[cyclopath]

I haven't seen any footage of the incident beyond what you guys have.
To get 3 weeks there must have been some other "evidence" in play I would think. Then again, this is the SANZAR judicial system, so don't try too hard to find logic, consistency and common sense in there.
All that said, it was a matter of time for Bakkies. As Disco states, he is always there or thereabouts with the argy-bargy and niggle (not that he's the only player guilty of that) and I suspect he probably tries a bit more on than some others.
The blowing of a kiss was just the aftermath, PB! That action alone says to me he's at least a smart-arse, given the ref had just warned him he was very lucky (based on the AR report), so a bit of contrition might be more in order. But that isn't bannable.

By the way, good to see Victor has the titanium arm on still. Geez, that's taking a long time to heal!

 

[PaarlBok]

By the way, good to see Victor has the titanium arm on still. Geez, that's taking a long time to heal!

Superman Phil Waugh not far behind. He sure have a few rolls of pleister wrap around his shoulders. :lmao:

 

[Blue]

I haven't seen any footage of the incident beyond what you guys have.
To get 3 weeks there must have been some other "evidence" in play I would think. Then again, this is the SANZAR judicial system, so don't try too hard to find logic, consistency and common sense in there.
All that said, it was a matter of time for Bakkies. As Disco states, he is always there or thereabouts with the argy-bargy and niggle (not that he's the only player guilty of that) and I suspect he probably tries a bit more on than some others.
The blowing of a kiss was just the aftermath, PB! That action alone says to me he's at least a smart-arse, given the ref had just warned him he was very lucky (based on the AR report), so a bit of contrition might be more in order. But that isn't bannable.

By the way, good to see Victor has the titanium arm on still. Geez, that's taking a long time to heal!

He has broken the arm three times.

Btw I agree with what you say about Bakkies. I love him when he's on and hate his guts when he loses it. I kind of understand the psyche behind the man which admittedly makes me more tolerant (plus he plays for my team lol), but you make yourself a marked man and he has. Stupid bloody Dutchman. I guess my outburst is more because if that footage on Fox news is all they went on, the penalty is way over the top. Ranger's round arm clothesline special was way worse.

He has cost the Boks tests and now he might cost the Bulls a homne semi or worse.

 

[cyclopath]

Blue, I know, just having a little fish - don't mind me! It's not TSF. ;D
PB, Waugh has to be taped up so much to keep that ugly head on!

 

[Lindommer]

I agree with what you say about Bakkies...Stupid bloody Dutchman.

Now, now, Blue, no racist remarks here on TYS. We might have to give you three weeks. ;D ;D ;D

 

[Blue]

I agree with what you say about Bakkies...Stupid bloody Dutchman.

Now, now, Blue, no racist remarks here on TYS. We might have to give you three weeks. ;D ;D ;D

Now even that would be more justified than Bakkies' three weeks. ;D

 

[Moses]

Here's the footage

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/bakkies-botha-gets-3-weeks/

 

[PaarlBok]

I agree with what you say about Bakkies...Stupid bloody Dutchman.

Now, now, Blue, no racist remarks here on TYS. We might have to give you three weeks. ;D ;D ;D

Ag thats what we are, Dutchmen. :lmao: Call a spade a spade , ne Boet? :thumb

 

[cyclopath]

Well, having seen that, it is more ridiculous. But he is a goose! ;D Contact with the head seems to earn some demerit points, apparently.

 

[Pfitzy]

Having seen it: that's a bit of a joke. Especially as Waugh looked to have started the physical contact. Retaliation will always get you nailed unfortunately - at any level of rugby. I well remember last year the opposition 8th man hitting our openside with three clean (if weak) punches to the head after he decked their flyhalf. One of our guys runs in from 10m away and he is the one getting yellow carded!

The one thing NOT in Bakkies favour is the fact he struck at the head. BIG no-no. As they commentators said - if he'd pushed the chest would it even be an issue?

He has broken the arm three times.

I'm not sure what the medical collective of Pretoria think, but surely at least one of them has discussed putting the metal plate on the INSIDE of the arm? :fishing

I love him when he's on and hate his guts when he loses it.

You see those players a bit here and there - and wonder why with all their gifts, they do it. Part of the psychological makeup I think. Norm Maxwell was one for the All Blacks - all the talent, and yet without restraint when it mattered. Ali Williams, come on down! James Horwill was headed this way but looks to have taken a few of those rough edges off. Owen Finegan was another one who was a good niggler but had shithouse timing, spending a S14 final on the sideline when he decided to tap Foley on the head with his boot in the semi.

 

[Blue]

Having seen it: that's a bit of a joke. Especially as Waugh looked to have started the physical contact. Retaliation will always get you nailed unfortunately - at any level of rugby. I well remember last year the opposition 8th man hitting our openside with three clean (if weak) punches to the head after he decked their flyhalf. One of our guys runs in from 10m away and he is the one getting yellow carded!

The one thing NOT in Bakkies favour is the fact he struck at the head. BIG no-no. As they commentators said - if he'd pushed the chest would it even be an issue?

He has broken the arm three times.

I'm not sure what the medical collective of Pretoria think, but surely at least one of them has discussed putting the metal plate on the INSIDE of the arm? :fishing

You mean they can do that!?

Lol

Apparently there's a mine's worth of titanium in there already (under the skin that is .

 

[Novocastrian]

Here's the footage

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/bakkies-botha-gets-3-weeks/

Was that what he was actually banned for, or is it a case of the cockmunchers at Fox not having any footage of it and deciding this shove must've been it? I seem to recall during the game that when the touchie was giving Kaplan a report he mentioned something like 'Bulls No 4 used an elbow on the head of No 7'.

In the footage from Moses you can see the touchie running past, presumably to get his mug on tv give his report ,as Bakkies is shoving Waugh, so I reckon it was something prior to this that he was done for. Plus it looked like Waugh was reacting to something when he shoved Bakkies to 'start' it.

 

[cyclopath]

Here's the footage

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/bakkies-botha-gets-3-weeks/

Was that what he was actually banned for, or is it a case of the cockmunchers at Fox not having any footage of it and deciding this shove must've been it? I seem to recall during the game that when the touchie was giving Kaplan a report he mentioned something like 'Bulls No 4 used an elbow on the head of No 7'.

In the footage from Moses you can see the touchie running past, presumably to get his mug on tv give his report ,as Bakkies is shoving Waugh, so I reckon it was something prior to this that he was done for. Plus it looked like Waugh was reacting to something when he shoved Bakkies to 'start' it.

You might be right - that would certainly make more sense.