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CAS 2019

Big Paul

Frank Row (1)
Anybody have the results for Aloys lower grades (opens) yesterday? Would think it'd be a hard day out at DV.

Corn.

I heard both teams (3rd's and 4th's) were kept scoreless, however not sure how many points were scored by Waverley in each game.

BP.
 

Michael_Pooper

Stan Wickham (3)
Cranbrook Vs Knox @ Woolahra Oval

At the start of the year, there was the expectation that Hordern would be dug up for renovations, so Cranbrook approached Knox and suggested a Friday night game at Woolahra Oval instead.

The powers that be agreed, but as the time drew nearer, it became apparent that Hordern would be available all year.

“Move the game back to Hordern on Saturday” suggested Knox.

“Not on your Nelly” said Cranbrook, already having played a Friday night game at Woolahra earlier in the season.

And what a smart move that was by Cranbrook.

So, at 7PM on a cold, wet night at Woolahra Oval, the Cranbrook side ran on.

Their student supporters numbered in the hundreds, and filled the northern hill.

At the southern end, the entire Waverley 1st’s, and most of the Waverley 2nd’s, were cheering on the Cranbrook lads, along with a Cranbrook mum who could be heard all the way down at Watson’s Bay.

Knox had started and finished school 15 minutes early for the day, in order to put on busses for any boy interested in supporting their mates. About 100 took up the offer, and filled the south western side of the field.

Cranbrook was not to be outdone, and had put on a function in the upstairs area of the clubhouse. Meanwhile, there was standing room only on the entire western side of the field, with burgers and beers doing the job of lubricating the vocal cords of a very demonstrative crowd. Knox, Waverley and Cranbrook parents stood shoulder to shoulder, heaving in anticipation.

The weather gods smiled slyly, and the rain stopped, as Fitzgerald (10) took the kick-off for Knox. Down with the flu, and not able to train, he had spent the day in bed. But this was footy, so up he got and put on his boots for the night.

His usual excellent kicking was off, and the ball didn’t go 10 metres. Back for a scrum, and Brook were high-fiving and grunting with delight.

Working their way upfield Brook were full of chatter, full of enthusiasm. Knox were flat. And within 3 minutes, Brook were 3-0 up thanks to an easy penalty goal.

From the restart, Knox pinned Cranbrook near their line. But an error at the line out saw the ball go upfield, as Brook kept up the enthusiasm, while Knox kept making mistakes. Five minutes later, and Brook were deep on attack. Knox were doing ok at keeping them at bay, until from within the ruck, a Brook hand reached back and picked up the ball, and ran 10 metres untouched to score under the posts. Nine minutes in, and it was Cranbrook 10-0 up.

This spurred Knox into action, and for the next five minutes pressured the Brook line. Scrums, line outs, penalties. Cranbrook were stinging in their defence. Eventually a ball to Grobler (2) out wide, and he took two Cranbrook backs with him as he went over. 15 minutes in and it was 10-5 to Cranbrook.

The next ten minutes saw end to end rugby, with Cranbrook kicking, and Knox making errors. Another try to Brook and 15-5 with 10 minutes left in the half.

Knox again tried to mount an attack, but slow play and errors cost them, and they went into the break down 15-5.

The second half saw Knox come out with a bit more intent. Griffiths (15) was making metres every time he touched the ball, but still Brook held out the Knox attack. #9 for Brook was huge in defence, often making last gasp tackles, as Knox kept pounding the line. Eventually, the side to side rugby paid off, and Knox were in eight minutes into the half. 15-12 to Cranbrook, but the half was all Knox.

Again, Knox worked the ball upfield. Attacking the Brook line, another Knox error. Winning the ball back, Brook belted the ball back towards halfway. Evans (11) fielded it, stepped inside 14, ran, shimmied, stepped, and scored under the posts with hardly a hand touching him. 18 minutes in to the second half, and it was Knox 19-15.

From the kick-off deep into Knox territory, a Knox knock-on. Now it was Cranbrook’s turn to attack the line. And with strong forward play, they were over. 22-19 Cranbrook, with 5 minutes left on the clock.

The next five minutes was helter skelter, with Cranbrook heaving the ball downfield, and Knox brining it back, only to make an error, and the ball to be belted downfield again. The crowd were going berserk, and with the clock showing time up, they were screaming for Cranbrook to kick the ball out. Kick it they did. But instead of going out, it went 40 metres downfield - towards their own goal line! There was a race to the ball - would it be Knox to score in the corner, or Brook to kick it over the line.

Brook it was. Game over. 22-19. And the Cranbrook team erupted like they had just won the premiership.

Cranbrook have always been the bogey team for this Knox group of boys. And so it was again tonight. Brook out-enthused them in the first half, and Knox were too slow and error prone for their own good.

So, off to the bar I went. Looking for a smiling SDW waving a Waverley cap. But he wasn’t to be found. Maybe I’ll see him at Queens Park tomorrow, as the Waverley juggxrnaught grinds Aloys into the dust. Unless there is mud, in which case the council may close the oval. And wouldn’t that make the season that much more interesting?

Excellent job Parker. Well described and a great run down for those of us who couldn't make it. Thanks for filling us in!
 

thedutchoven

Chris McKivat (8)
TDO here;

After watching the Knox VS Cranbrook replay, and now watching origin.

Can see that new no. 15 from brook showing close connotations with Kalyn Ponga.

Quick feet. Fast mind. Good step.

TDO.

:)
 

Steve Jane23

Stan Wickham (3)
5 takeaways from a great weekend of CAS footy:

Barker over Trinity: 37-24
Cranbrook over Knox: 22-19
St Aloysius over Waverley: 22-5

1) The competition is wide open, one of the tightest in many years. Would be a fantastic year for a ten round comp, however, the pre-season games really showed the CAS teams have some grunt about them, beating or challenging many gps teams.

2) Anyone can win on their day. On a cold, windy afternoon on one of the less pleasant grounds in NSW, the Aloys boys took 'death valley' with a point to prove. Having been written off all week, some even feeling sorry for them, the boys in yellow and blue came out firing. For the entire game Weber was instrumental, running, kicking, defending and setting up tries he was stand out. The Waverley boys (for the most part) seemed as though they didn't want to be there as Aloys ran circles around them. On a dark day for the 'double V' there were 2 shimmers of light through captain Rice and fly-half Volkman. Great win to Aloys and I'm sure Waverley will look to bounce back next round against Cranbrook.
3 points: Weber (15 Aloys)
2 points: Allen (4 Aloys)
1 point: Volkman (10 Waverley)

3) Although I wasn't able to make it, all reports sound as though it was a messy one between the red and green. However, what the scoreline does show is that Trinity are not to be taken lightly. Against a team who remains the only undefeated team in the competition, the Trinity boys managed to hold their own (to a degree). Those who play them towards the end of the season should be prepared. Barker leave the round as the only team without a loss, I'm not sure if this talk about points being stripped or not is true or false (probably the latter) but one would have to call the red machine the favourites heading into the representative break.

4) Game of the round IMO: Cranbrook over Knox. What an event, schoolboy rugby at its best. On a night that could hardly be considered pleasant at all, the Knox powerhouse brought a strong crowd which was more than reciprocated by the masses of Cranbrook boys assembled on the hill. I won't go into too much depth as P.Parker's report covered it perfectly. But the major takeaway is that Cranbrook are a team of work horses who evidently wanted it more. While lacking individual talent, seen by the lack of CAS reps (and fairly so IMO), the Cranbrook boys scrapped hard all game, often defending their own line. Jake Taylor was great in the centres in both attack and defence. The forward pack for Cranbrook looked as though they had something to prove taking it to the knox pack all game, particularly the back row. Smith at 9 was great, controlling the game exceptionally with his boot and made some crucial tackles. For Knox, they didn't seem to want it in the first half, but to their credit, fought back hard in the second half, pulling ahead at one point. They missed Gratwicke at 8, while the young man filling in for him tried hard, it just wasn't the same. Breden at 7 was exceptional once again and led from the front for the Knox boys. Evans at 11 can run. Conclusively, I'm not sure if it was the change in jersey against the cranbrook white, or the friday night fixture, but Knox just didn't seem to be as present as the Cranbrook boys.
3 points: Smith (9 Brook)
2 points: Cranbrook backrow
1 point: Breden (7 Knox)

5) SCHOOLBOY RUGBY IS THE REAL WINNER OF THE WEEKEND. It is hard to describe what a weekend like this does for schoolboy footy, two underdogs getting up over 2 powerhouses. A 4 way tie for second place heading into the break, its absolutely anyones game. CAS rugby is more than alive folks, strap in for round 3, huge games ahead. Would love to see the CAS 1's and 2's take it to an outstanding GPS crop, carn the reds.
 

Michael_Pooper

Stan Wickham (3)
Anyone got any footage from the Aloys v Waverley matchup?

SSMM

SSMM,

I'm afraid I did not get any footage, however can assure you the 'Christmas in July' esque miracle was one to behold. A spectacle one could not quite catch on camera, it was an electrifying experience. Schoolboy Rugby is alive and kicking, and boy what a time to be alive. For those who reminisce of the 'glory days', I can, with confidence, say they are well and truly back. I think maybe go to WLF for some footage, if not someone else will soon upload a highlights video to the thread.

Gentlemen, strap yourselves in, we are due for a wildly exciting photo finish to this years competition.

Look out GPS!,

MP
 

carl spackler

Sydney Middleton (9)
Bet my name would describe any dad from Waverley on Saturday afternoon
Just to put it into perspective, The Aloys win on Saturday was the first CAS match victory by this cohort (all bar their 10 are in year 12), for their entire senior school days - bar 2016 when the school forced a number of boys from the year above to play down in their age group.
Little wonder the celebration mirrored a grand final victory.
I'm in agreement with several posters that many of the Waverley boys just looked disinterested and took the win for granted.
Several of their boys I'm sure did not attain the representative honours that they expected.
Well done Aloys, and I'm sure they will warmly welcome Barker to Tyneside Ave for their first home game of the year.
 

Schooey Schooey MoiMoi

Bob McCowan (2)
SSMM,

I'm afraid I did not get any footage, however can assure you the 'Christmas in July' esque miracle was one to behold. A spectacle one could not quite catch on camera, it was an electrifying experience. Schoolboy Rugby is alive and kicking, and boy what a time to be alive. For those who reminisce of the 'glory days', I can, with confidence, say they are well and truly back. I think maybe go to WLF for some footage, if not someone else will soon upload a highlights video to the thread.

Gentlemen, strap yourselves in, we are due for a wildly exciting photo finish to this years competition.

Look out GPS!,

MP
Don't worry MP, there was no way I was missing that game, just let me watch it again!!! I had a gut feeling the boys from Milsons Point would pull through and so they did. For myself, I though Charlie Webber (15) for Aloys was man of the match. Despite a couple missed penalty kicks, his field kicking was exceptional and this was only backed up by his tackling. Similarly, not sure of his name but the 5 really stood out. All hitups were strong and plenty of double rucks. But most of all, how about that grubber try for the winger. Now that got the crowd going! As for Waverley, I just think Aloys wanted it more. Their 5 had a stand out performance (Alex Rice), as any captain should and IMO he was done wrong being put as a reserve 2s CAS player. Either way, the Aloys boys getting up opens up the season even more than Friday night had and I cannot wait for next school term!

SSMM
 

Snort

Vay Wilson (31)
"many of the Waverley boys just looked disinterested"

I wasn't at the game, so I don't know. But I dislike it when a defeat is attributed to the attitude of the players. My experience is that at 1st XV level, almost everyone tries their best almost all the time.

The truth is that this Waverley group wasn't especially strong on its way through the age groups (unlike, say, the current 16s). Yes, it's been strengthened a little along the way, but it seems to me to have been weighed down with unrealistic expectations. It's a good side, don't misunderstand me, but not so good that any defeat needs to be attributed to a bad attitude.

Look: a million years ago, when I was in Year 12, we played a Waverley side at Queen's Park that was undefeated in the CAS rounds (though it lost to St Patrick's). They were better than us. They should have beaten us (everyone else did!). We had never beaten them in the As on the way up. Yet we hassled and hustled them, scored two breakaway tries, and came away with a draw. Maybe they took us too lightly. But they also played as well as we let them play, and the bounce of the ball went our way. It happens. And it isn't necessarily a sign of "not wanting it enough".
 

Hasbeen

Bob Loudon (25)
Sometimes when the Boys feel under the pressure of expectation that disinterest can manifest as a coping thing. But i have no doubt too that those Boys did their best considering the amount of Rugby they have played. They are only kids.
 

J Dog Fenton

Peter Burge (5)
For myself, I though Charlie Webber (15) for Aloys was man of the match. Despite a couple missed penalty kicks, his field kicking was exceptional and this was only backed up by his tackling.

Couldn't agree more SSMM. IMO he out played the 15 from Waves (D'Agostino) and it makes me wonder why Weber is on the shadow list and D'Agostino is starting 1's. Did he have a bad game against aloys or am I missing something
 

Schooey Schooey MoiMoi

Bob McCowan (2)
Couldn't agree more SSMM. IMO he out played the 15 from Waves (D'Agostino) and it makes me wonder why Weber is on the shadow list and D'Agostino is starting 1's. Did he have a bad game against aloys or am I missing something

Well said J Dog, I don't think D'Agostino had a bad game, in fact he played quite well, he was just outplayed by Webber. Haven't seen too much of D'Agostino apart from his game against Riverview in the first trial. As for Webber, he too played quite well against Cranbrook in Trial #5 and was possibly the difference in the narrow loss, many will contest that idea.
 

Rugby League

Allen Oxlade (6)
Well said J Dog, I don't think D'Agostino had a bad game, in fact he played quite well, he was just outplayed by Webber. Haven't seen too much of D'Agostino apart from his game against Riverview in the first trial. As for Webber, he too played quite well against Cranbrook in Trial #5 and was possibly the difference in the narrow loss, many will contest that idea.


Having watched both, I still find it quite difficult to come to a conclusion on who deserved the starting spot. Often I think that people can be swayed by the most recent performance, yet when selecting players for representative sides you have to look at the whole picture. I think that this is why D’Agostino got the starting jersey. It can be difficult picking people based on preseason and a short CAS season. I still believe that the sides should be selected after the final round of the season
 

runningrugby1

Herbert Moran (7)
Well said J Dog, I don't think D'Agostino had a bad game, in fact he played quite well, he was just outplayed by Webber. Haven't seen too much of D'Agostino apart from his game against Riverview in the first trial. As for Webber, he too played quite well against Cranbrook in Trial #5 and was possibly the difference in the narrow loss, many will contest that idea.

How could Weber be the difference in the narrow loss to Cranbrook? Aloys lost that game.
 
Couldn't agree more SSMM. IMO he out played the 15 from Waves (D'Agostino) and it makes me wonder why Weber is on the shadow list and D'Agostino is starting 1's. Did he have a bad game against aloys or am I missing something

Yes, seems like a common theme amongst all of the CAS teams: that waverly players are selected for the CAS representative teams after questionable performances
 

Aloys_win

Stan Wickham (3)
Well said J Dog, I don't think D'Agostino had a bad game, in fact he played quite well, he was just outplayed by Webber. Haven't seen too much of D'Agostino apart from his game against Riverview in the first trial. As for Webber, he too played quite well against Cranbrook in Trial #5 and was possibly the difference in the narrow loss, many will contest that idea.

Have to agree. How did he even get picked? Disappointed more Aloys boy didn’t get selected. We are better than Waverley and Cranbrook only won with a charge down?

More aloys boys should be in CAS. Simple!
 

Hasbeen

Bob Loudon (25)
Alos got 10 across the 1sts, 2nds and shadows - same as Barker. At least the Boys are in the rep squads, even if it is not the 1's. If they play well they can go further.
 

Corn

Bob McCowan (2)
Have to agree. How did he even get picked? Disappointed more Aloys boy didn’t get selected. We are better than Waverley and Cranbrook only won with a charge down?

More aloys boys should be in CAS. Simple!


Aloys_win,
I can't say I agree. Winning one game doesn't make a season unfortunately. Agree Weber was hard done by and certainly one of our best but I can't say that many other boys were unfairly treated. I think some shadow players got very lucky but that is how it goes. Otherwise, keen to watch the boys take on GPS!

Corn.
 
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