CAS Rugby 2023
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JackJill
Sydney Middleton (9)
Turinui and Standfield were phenomenal. What is with the CAS selection process? The way Turinui controlled the game at 10 looked too natural to him, why wasn't he the CAS 1 or 2 flyhalf? Maybe they need to revert to internal trials where they can see how top players perform against each other.
Ziggy
Allen Oxlade (6)
Well these 2 also play together for Randwick at the State Champs that went through undefeated. Great combination.
You start to wonder about the players that weren't even selected in CAS that should've been playing.
Ziggy
Allen Oxlade (6)
Well done to all those boys.
But it is important to understand what those teams are.. They are not a Schoolboys side of old.
You can only be selected in those sides if you played in the schoolboys tournament this week - so that excludes anyone selected for Waratahs, Waratah White, Reds, Reds Grey, Force, Brumbies or Rebels sides and playing in the ARU Academy tournament (as well as anyone injured) - something like 5x23 + 2x15 = 145 Schoolboys + U18s., and accounting for the lack of depth in some teams, maybe 75-100 Schoolboys who feasibly rank ahead of these sides.
So in a position where a particular association (GPS or CAS) is quite strong, its quite feasible to miss out on association selection and make it to the Schoolboys team.
But it also shows the issues with starting the CAS season so late (only 2 of 5 games played), whereas GPS had played 6 of 10 before selections.
But it is important to understand what those teams are.. They are not a Schoolboys side of old.
You can only be selected in those sides if you played in the schoolboys tournament this week - so that excludes anyone selected for Waratahs, Waratah White, Reds, Reds Grey, Force, Brumbies or Rebels sides and playing in the ARU Academy tournament (as well as anyone injured) - something like 5x23 + 2x15 = 145 Schoolboys + U18s., and accounting for the lack of depth in some teams, maybe 75-100 Schoolboys who feasibly rank ahead of these sides.
So in a position where a particular association (GPS or CAS) is quite strong, its quite feasible to miss out on association selection and make it to the Schoolboys team.
But it also shows the issues with starting the CAS season so late (only 2 of 5 games played), whereas GPS had played 6 of 10 before selections.
Halfbackenthusiast
Ted Fahey (11)
This years really exposed the issues, a lot of us have known for awhile. Waverley had a tough trial period with significant injuries, this has not only disadvantaged those injured looking to be selected in CAS but the whole team, with new combinations etc. The issues are we can’t push back the rep period, as then it would clash with trial and hsc preparation.
Famed_Star
Allen Oxlade (6)
It’s not.
But Felix Turinui jumped ahead of the two 10’s selected ahead of him for CAS in this selection and Noah Tofaeono jumped ahead of the entire seconds backrow. On top of Kaleb Colt initially being selected as a reserve prop and Niulala being dejected as a backrower.
This just highlights some of the issues with the CAS selectors.
Jumping_jack
Ward Prentice (10)
Yep pretty clear cut the errors over the past few years. Impacting on players selections, also impacts potential rugby careers and with the losses for CAS despite the strong school performances, the selectors are clearly getting it wrong.
Some time for a rethink on the process is needed. I am not sure how schools can improve the process. I wonder if videos are shared with selectors and feedback given to who the selectors should be pursuing.
I also want to highlight again that playing u16’s players does not benefit them at all. All of those players end up having to go the u16’s path away which is the path they should have taken in the first place. Even future wallabies such as Nick Frost didn’t represent CAS opens as an u16’s player.
Running_rugby_1954
Dave Cowper (27)
It is strange for the selections to be so different from eventual outcomes. Australian schools selectors are also welcome to their own opinions, but to be so different is rare.
It’s also a really recent phenomenon for u16’s players to be selected in opens. So it must be a new policy for CAS player development for future years. Which if that is the aim is positive. As long as it is not at the expense as other potential selections.
It’s also a really recent phenomenon for u16’s players to be selected in opens. So it must be a new policy for CAS player development for future years. Which if that is the aim is positive. As long as it is not at the expense as other potential selections.
Rudderless
Ron Walden (29)
Same thing happens in GPS when 16yr olds are elevated to the Opens which sounds fantastic but physically I’m not so sure. Who’s taking the blame when an 18yr old lines up and seriously hurts one of these younger boys.
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Not good when you look back CAS u16 team…most did not feature in any of these teams ( or the Sydney team)
Halfbackenthusiast
Ted Fahey (11)
Teams are definitely dominated by GPS. A reflection of a particularly strong GPS age group?
propsarespeedy
Billy Sheehan (19)
whats the difference between Pres B and GPS B?
Speedy
Stan Wickham (3)
Nothing
mate if the 16 year old is good enough he is old enough, some clubs in the Brisbane colts competition have 16 year olds playing 1st and 2nd grade colts.
Pres B is u16 and GPS B is u18?
Agree the GPS comp is stronger/more depth than CAS and ISA…
But top 3 CAS teams can give GPS teams a run for their money
Paul Swanson
Frank Row (1)
Predictions for round 3? Knox at Waverley. Possibly for the title?
Ella Magic
Frank Row (1)
Im pretty sure it's because Turinui was playing 15 for Waverley and they were losing to teams that Knox and Barker had beaten in the trials ( Oakhill Riverview ) and were pretty disjointed due to injuries . The success at Randwick at State and the return from injury of the big 8 had them as a potent 8 9 10 combination. And followed up with a good win over Barker. Well done. I found it strange that St Augustine's Joe Walsh wasn't the 10 although Cohesion is King at this level at this time. Just my thoughts.