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Pfitzy

Jason Little (69)
It makes great pictures, and Channel 7’s Paul Dowsley can take a punch.

The bottles to the head indicates these people are cowards.

Over and above the fact they turn up to these "protests" in masks but refuse to wear one in a supermarket
 

waiopehu oldboy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Gotta bite the bullet like Vic & NSW me thinks. What's Auckland's roadmap like? Do you have an opening up date regardless of covid zero?

Auckland's road map looks pretty sketchy ATM:

"From 11:59pm [Tuesday] outdoor gatherings between two households are allowed with a maximum of 10 people, travel within Auckland is allowed for exercise, recreation and sport, and early learning centres can open. People are still encouraged to wear a face covering and physically distance.

"The second stage - which has no date attached to it - will allow retail to operate with safety measures in place, public facilities like pools and libraries to open, and outdoor gatherings to have 25 people.

"Finally, the third step will allow hospitality and entertainment venues to open to 50 people, social gatherings can happen indoors with a limit of 50 attendees and close contact businesses, like hairdressers, can also operate.

"Each of these steps takes place at alert level 3 and will only go into effect "if the public health assessment tells us it is safe to do so". They'll be reviewed each week."


Meanwhile the self-ordained "Bishop" most responsible for oraganising the Auckland Domain protest has been summonsed which is probably what he wants: gives him a platform & if convicted he gets to play the martyr.
 

Pfitzy

Jason Little (69)
Auckland's road map looks pretty sketchy ATM:

Stolen from FB:

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Pfitzy

Jason Little (69)
My teens inform me that Sydney numbers are back down in the 600s but I pointed out testing rates would have gone to shit over the long weekend.

Interested to see what happens next week after all the footy footy footy long weekend action, illegal gatherings etc.

Whether the vaccination levels mean people just stop getting tested at all is another factor.


The 12-15 bracket should jump significantly to double dosed in about 2 weeks or so as families look to get as many of their spawn dosed. Overseas holidays (or any sort of holiday) are going to be booked solid as soon as they're available I reckon.
 

Dctarget

Simon Poidevin (60)
Interested to see what happens next week after all the footy footy footy long weekend action, illegal gatherings etc.

Whether the vaccination levels mean people just stop getting tested at all is another factor.


The 12-15 bracket should jump significantly to double dosed in about 2 weeks or so as families look to get as many of their spawn dosed. Overseas holidays (or any sort of holiday) are going to be booked solid as soon as they're available I reckon.
NSW is fine, you’re out the tunnel now, you’re vaccinated more than a lot of countries. You could open up today easily. Gotta start focussing on Covid deaths instead of cases now.
 

fatprop

Jason Little (69)
Staff member
NSW is fine, you’re out the tunnel now, you’re vaccinated more than a lot of countries. You could open up today easily. Gotta start focussing on Covid deaths instead of cases now.
Yeah, the case for how effective the vaccines are at lowering the death rate is pretty clear old but accurate Vic vs NSW outbreaks

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Dctarget

Simon Poidevin (60)
Yeah, the case for how effective the vaccines are at lowering the death rate is pretty clear old but accurate Vic vs NSW outbreaks

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Pretty amazing we managed to develop and get out the vaccine in two years. Science is cool.

I wonder how long Australia will take to stop obsessing about COVID. I think 2 months after whenever your respective state opens up.
 

Dctarget

Simon Poidevin (60)
Gladys's team were quite smart by pushing the shots into the high infection zones, it kept a lid on it
Yeah just saw some amazing stat about Victoria, currently 2 in a thousand people have COVID, whereas in the suburb of Cragieburn, 1 in 40 have COVID.
 

fatprop

Jason Little (69)
Staff member
Pretty amazing we managed to develop and get out the vaccine in two years. Science is cool.

I wonder how long Australia will take to stop obsessing about COVID. I think 2 months after whenever your respective state opens up.
I think it you are right but if the research from the states replicates here, we will have some locking themselves away for some time to come, the fear porn has been strong

In one area, the wrongness is overwhelmingly on the side of the Democrats, by almost double. 41% of Democrats believe that 50% of unvaccinated people have been hospitalized due to COVID-19 when the real number is still under 1%. A still high yet relatively less problematic 22% of Republicans get that wrong.

Who got the right answer by a wide margin? Republicans. 16% recognize that the hospitalization rate is under 1%, an 800% better result than Democrats.

 

Rob42

Nev Cottrell (35)
I think it you are right but if the research from the states replicates here, we will have some locking themselves away for some time to come, the fear porn has been strong



Americans seem so comfortable in being labelled either Republicans or Democrats, it's bleak. So polarised into those two camps.
 

cyclopath

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Staff member
My teens inform me that Sydney numbers are back down in the 600s but I pointed out testing rates would have gone to shit over the long weekend.

Interested to see what happens next week after all the footy footy footy long weekend action, illegal gatherings etc.

Whether the vaccination levels mean people just stop getting tested at all is another factor.


The 12-15 bracket should jump significantly to double dosed in about 2 weeks or so as families look to get as many of their spawn dosed. Overseas holidays (or any sort of holiday) are going to be booked solid as soon as they're available I reckon.
I shudder to think what insurers will charge for overseas travel insurance!
 

The_Brown_Hornet

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
On the news last night they had footage of a vaccination clinic in Joondalup, which is in the northern suburbs of Perth. It was practically empty. With our vaccination rates in WA lagging the rest of the nation we're going to continue our lock out of the rest of the world for some time yet. This depresses me.

Myself, my wife and two 17 year olds are fully vaxxed and we can't go anywhere. The original plan was to head to New York to celebrate them finishing high school, but that door is locked, we are restricted from going to other parts of the country and everywhere in WA is fully booked. As you can imagine I'm a bit crapped off.
 

Derpus

Tim Horan (67)
On the news last night they had footage of a vaccination clinic in Joondalup, which is in the northern suburbs of Perth. It was practically empty. With our vaccination rates in WA lagging the rest of the nation we're going to continue our lock out of the rest of the world for some time yet. This depresses me.

Myself, my wife and two 17 year olds are fully vaxxed and we can't go anywhere. The original plan was to head to New York to celebrate them finishing high school, but that door is locked, we are restricted from going to other parts of the country and everywhere in WA is fully booked. As you can imagine I'm a bit crapped off.
Sucks man.

The success of the locked borders has really been blessing and a curse. When the second lockdown kicked in i commented to my partner that the silver lining is it would accelerate vaccination rates which at the time were fucking shite.
 

Dctarget

Simon Poidevin (60)
On the news last night they had footage of a vaccination clinic in Joondalup, which is in the northern suburbs of Perth. It was practically empty. With our vaccination rates in WA lagging the rest of the nation we're going to continue our lock out of the rest of the world for some time yet. This depresses me.

Myself, my wife and two 17 year olds are fully vaxxed and we can't go anywhere. The original plan was to head to New York to celebrate them finishing high school, but that door is locked, we are restricted from going to other parts of the country and everywhere in WA is fully booked. As you can imagine I'm a bit crapped off.
Interesting to hear your opinion BH. Do you think you’re in the minority? I assumed all states would be clamouring to open up when they see their neighbours in NSW & VIC travelling between their states and overseas. But now I think people value OS travel less than I realised. Apparently 44% of Aussies don’t even have passports. I overestimated how much of a carrot it was, and how comfortable people are at home
 

The_Brown_Hornet

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Interesting to hear your opinion BH. Do you think you’re in the minority? I assumed all states would be clamouring to open up when they see their neighbours in NSW & VIC travelling between their states and overseas. But now I think people value OS travel less than I realised. Apparently 44% of Aussies don’t even have passports. I overestimated how much of a carrot it was, and how comfortable people are at home

My sense of it is we have roughly two cohorts in WA: people who are all "fuck off we're full, keep everyone out of WA" and those like myself and most of the people I know who are "damnit, we want to get out and see the world, reunite with our families etc". What the proportions are of the two groups I don't know, but the latter is growing by the day. The general view with people I talk with is that once the other states start travelling freely there are many folks who will be looking at our premier and asking some serious questions.

There are many (me included) who think that McGowan is only locking the state out from the outside because he knows that with the emergency depts in most public hospitals under pressure with essentially zero COVID here, that if any of it gets in our health system will collapse. He doesn't want to be the premier presiding over that. It's cynical view, but one that a LOT of people hold.
 
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