Alan Cameron (40)
Wellcamp might be a white elephant - until the next pandemic.
Isnt it just that you can still transmit it and wearing a mask further reduces the risk of transmission.
I believe opening up is predicated on keeping softer measures that limit transmission (masks, distancing etc) in place.
Went to the pub on Friday and if there were rules I wouldn't have known what they were.The pub rules are quite baffling
Picture sitting on stools in a loud happy pub (Dove and Olive), but to stand up and buy a beer, whack your mask on because it appears the latest variant is only dangerous to those 5ft high or taller
None of them are vaccinated though, it’s starting to wear thin. I’m not sure what else we can do, also I don’t think the lockdown is really doing much.^ 58 dead in the last seven days seems a lot.
As does 151 in ICU & 94 on ventilators.
They have to balance their duty to protect people from themselves against the harm keeping an entire state in indefinite lockdown would cause.^ sounds like Vic Gov are doing what I'd like our Gov to do, only difference being we're still in a position to avoid what Vic is currently going through, at least for now - plenty of experts warning that we could very quickly find ourselves deep in the shit if we relax restrictions too fast. I'm glad you're coming out of lockdown, I just hope it doesn't make a horrible situation even worse.
Edit: I'm a bit torn over the ethics of letting Covid run rampant among the unvaccinated, logically it's the right call IMO but on the other hand govs do have a responsibility to save people from their own stupidity/ ignorance even (esp?) when it's wilful. Duty of Care & all that. We have a coupla anti-vaxxers at work & whereas I avoid them as much as possible I'd still hate to see either of them or their families get sick.
And a powerful retort by the NSW Supreme Court. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...accination-mandate-spray-20211018-p590x2.htmlA powerful statement from Deputy President Dean of the Fair Work Commission, who has come out strongly against mandatory Covid vaccinations, is here.
TL;DR - "a democratic approach to addressing vaccine hesitancy, and therefore increasing voluntary vaccination uptake, lies in better education."
We probably should just tie down and inject those who chose not to get vaccinated and take any autonomy in medical decisions away from the individual for the public goodAnd a powerful retort by the NSW Supreme Court. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...accination-mandate-spray-20211018-p590x2.html
"An industrial commissioner who railed against vaccination mandates as “medical apartheid” in a recent unfair dismissal case has been criticised by a senior NSW Supreme Court judge, who says she descended into politicking and made claims without evidence."
Justice Beech-Jones said “Political pamphlets have their place but I doubt that the Fair Work Commission is one of them,” he said. “They are not authorities for legal propositions.”
We obviously shouldn't. But equally, there is no reason why a person making a conscious decision which exposes others to greater risk of harm shouldn't be excluded from participating in certain aspects of society as a consequence.We probably should just tie down and inject those who chose not to get vaccinated and take any autonomy in medical decisions away from the individual for the public good
(I see the above as the extreme, so we instead will make the recalcitrants unable to function in society, all to make the final lot comply. I just don't see the value in the force required. NSW will have over 90% vaccinated, the societal cost of getting that last lot done maybe to high IMHO)
No-one is being forced to get vaccinated. They just have to make a choice on how they function within society. That may be deciding between a vaccine and a job in the near term.We probably should just tie down and inject those who chose not to get vaccinated and take any autonomy in medical decisions away from the individual for the public good
You can be unvaccinated but you can't work in certain fields - it's a personal choice.Sorry, but that is force