Force 2023
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PhilClinton
Geoff Shaw (53)
Yep I came here to say this. Luring him away from a Japanese side which apparently wanted to keep him wouldn't have been cheap.
I reckon he's on $2m a year at the Force, at least!
You'd have to think someone like Thorn, came through the coaching pathway at the Reds, won a championship etc would be sitting in the ballpark of $500k a year
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
Additional lock - Connor Vest has history with Cron.
THP is the spot. Medrano is average and Holmes can't be relied on for much longer despite his remaining scrummaging skills.
Ollie Hoskins would be a great get....
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
Easy Rugby™ or not, I think it's clearer Coleman being in the driver's seat for those. That's particularly in regard to the recruitment strategy being mentioned today, and his taking teams from zero to hero multiple times. Add in several more runners-up placings and it builds the picture of that career.
Clearly that strategy is built on someone else paying for it (i.e. not the coach). Both Cron and Coleman have had this to varying degrees - but it gets harder to pull off, the higher up the ecosystem you go. Regardless, someone does need to make it happen, and Coleman has the better record.
Great springboard for Cron from Norths. Verblitz were semifinalists before and during his tenure, though.
There wasn't a third spot last year. Be wary of blithely repeating geerob's copy - she also seems to think that Japan Rugby League One existed last season but it was still the last transition of the industrial league.
That's great. I hope Toyota's trajectory is down to Simon Cron - and that it is going up. The Force, third season back, will need to step it up.
Drew
Bob Davidson (42)
HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) resigned last week I think.
EDIT: re-signed…..
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SteveWA
Charlie Fox (21)
Drew
Bob Davidson (42)
Haha. Yes, I should have. Will edit now.you should add a hyphen for the sake of the Tahs fans here
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
That’s sacked mate
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Huge win for Force by signing Cron.
Wouldn't expect him to try and recycle some of the old names put up in this post.
He coached Junior Wallabies a couple of years ago so reckon there might be some highly talented younger players getting a call soon.
As much as everyone wants an instant result I am sure he will come with a 3 year plan.
Wouldn't expect him to try and recycle some of the old names put up in this post.
He coached Junior Wallabies a couple of years ago so reckon there might be some highly talented younger players getting a call soon.
As much as everyone wants an instant result I am sure he will come with a 3 year plan.
eastman
Arch Winning (36)
Ignoring the old 'you're worth whatever someone will pay you' - I hope he's not. That's an obscene salary for a first-time coach with no Super Rugby/ international experience - the Force would be be better off buying two legitimate rugby stars for that amount.
PhilClinton
Geoff Shaw (53)
Not disagreeing with you but on the point I've highlighted in your comment, what's the go with salary caps in Super Rugby?
Could Twiggy in theory throw as much coin as he wants to players? I figure coaches would sit outside any caps so they can be paid whatever amounts.
I reckon that's way off. That would almost certainly make him the highest paid coach in World Rugby.
SteveWA
Charlie Fox (21)
No, all AU teams are bound by the same salary cap restrictions as part of their participation agreement. The only variation is that some teams have the luxury of Wallaby top-ups and the Rebels got certain concessions (or did, I don't know if this is still the case).
PhilClinton
Geoff Shaw (53)
Yeh $2m was my ridiculous figure. I can't find much about Japanese league coaching wages aside from some articles suggesting the highest end of coaches over there were on around $1.3m back in 2019.
Probably not crazy that Cron would have been offered around $1.5m a year to come back to Australia if that is the case.
