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NSW AAGPS 2025 (banter and commentary)

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Frank Nicholson (4)
Does anyone have a report on the Scots vs Shore 4ths? I was told it was a great game to watch.
The short summary:

Both sides looked strong - I would almost venture to say that Shore was the stronger team, particularly in the engine room and on offense. Scots ball carriers didn't appear to be running particularly hard (Obviously this is from an outside perspective so take this with a grain of salt, but I noticed that when tackles connected some of the Scots boys seemed to slow a little), but a lack of commitment in contact and some lazy defense failed to capitalise on this. Scots defense seemed patchy - Some players performed some remarkable tackles, others seemed a little softer - but Shore's frequent errors (including a knock on count I would venture to say was in excess of 20) meant that any progress made quickly stalled, once again failing to capitalise on this weakness.

In set piece, Shore began as the dominant side, with both Belli (c), Perkins and Morrow (3, 2, 1 respectively) seeming to overpower the ostensibly larger Scots front row in the scrums. Lineouts were slightly weaker to begin with, and if I had to summarise it I would say that Shore was rigid in their calls, not responding to obvious defense setups, but overall the Shore lineout seemed strong. However, once the (many) subs began coming on, Shore's strength rapidly declining, with a seemingly weaker push in the scrums and messier lineouts. Scots' stayed fairly consistent in terms of substitutions and as a result were able to leverage Shore's weaknesses with consistently powerful scrums and effective lineouts. I have to pass on my admiration for Scots number 3 - he was about as circular as they come, built like a tandoori oven, but managed to stay on his toes and in the fight for the majority of the game, with some catastrophic runs hurtling into Shore's defense. Bravo.

The Shore backs were a bit more coherent this week, and appeared more courageous in defense than those of Scots, but the consistensy of Scots in various areas was what set them apart. Shore showed promise off the edges with good hands, but some poor decision making in decisive moments really affected their performance. Scots had fast hands which helped them work around Shore's defense, and a particularly shifty winger proved very difficult for Shore to defend against.

Ultimately, Shore's one unconverted try wasn't enough to balance out the countless unforced errors and lack of response to weaknesses in Scots' attack and defense. I've mentioned it several times, but I think one word that defines Scots' win is consistency. As I said, I don't think you could call one team definitively the stronger team, but Scots clearly wanted the win more and that's what got them the game. Very excited to see them matchup once more later in the season, it will be a very different game.
 
This is a copy of a post RUL made in the wrong forum. Was written in the tipping forum. I found it interesting and thought to copy and paste in correct forum.

From RUL
“I started watching school boys rugby again recently, great to watch. Was watching Shore play at Scotts today and the Scotts clock on the scoreboard might need a service? I watched 4 games:

16a's - Shore in front when clock run down. Ref played an extra 5 odd minutes and Scotts scored on the death to win.

3rd's - Shore in front when clock ran down. Shore kicked the ball backwards and out thinking end of the game and ref played on for another 3 -4 minutes (apparently there was 2 seconds left when the ball went out). Scotts scored on the death but was 2 points short of a win.

At the end of this game a mum questioned why the clock ran down and several more plays were allowed in the game. A dad said 'the scoreboard clock keeps running and the ref's watch is what counts'. The ref was right in front of us during this conversation and he did not appear to have a watch?? But he somehow knew there were a few seconds left and yes, I understand that the game can often go longer than the scoreboard clock because of the ref can stop his watch for stoppage of play..

2nd's - Scotts in front with 3 minutes to full time (according to scoreboard clock). Ref called full time with 2.32 left on score board clock ... to give Scotts the win. I really don't understand how the scoreboard clock can still have time on it if it does not stop for play stoppage?

1st's - Shore in front when score board clock was frozen with 2.00 minutes left. I set my timer. Ref allowed another 6 minutes or so from then and Scotts was awarded a penalty in front of the goals - which they kicked and won the game by a point.

It felt like - Scotts behind, play overtime. Scotts in front, shut game down early. I expect the refs are independent (?) so not saying this is the case, but can anyone help explain this or is it just one of Rugby's mysteries.... like scrums.”
If RUL was at the 16A’s game, he would have clearly noticed that the scoreline was 17-17 and the scrum was from a Shore knock on before the clock went to 00:00. Shore was definitely not in front. Neither team was complaining as it looked like they were going for a win. Scots won the scrum and lost the ball to Shore in a jackal shortly after. If Shore wanted to end the game there and then, they could have kicked the ball into touch. They didn’t and were going for a win. Shore made a run for it and got past the 10 metre line before the ball carrier was isolated and penalised for not releasing with 2 Scots players immediately over him. This eventually led to the winning try very quickly after. It was a good contest and should not be marred by incorrect information like Shore being in front at full time and insinuating play went into extended time until Scots won.
 

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Frank Row (1)
Great game to watch. Shore led 12-0 in the early stages of the game but Scots were able to crawl it back and took the lead with 15 to go 17-12. Shore score with 2 minutes to go but couldn’t convert. Scots score in the corner on the last play of the game to take then win. 24-17 to Scots
Missed that game, any standout players?
 

jester23

Stan Wickham (3)
If RUL was at the 16A’s game, he would have clearly noticed that the scoreline was 17-17 and the scrum was from a Shore knock on before the clock went to 00:00. Shore was definitely not in front. Neither team was complaining as it looked like they were going for a win. Scots won the scrum and lost the ball to Shore in a jackal shortly after. If Shore wanted to end the game there and then, they could have kicked the ball into touch. They didn’t and were going for a win. Shore made a run for it and got past the 10 metre line before the ball carrier was isolated and penalised for not releasing with 2 Scots players immediately over him. This eventually led to the winning try very quickly after. It was a good contest and should not be marred by incorrect information like Shore being in front at full time and insinuating play went into extended time until Scots won.
very well said, also many individuals forget that the scoreboard clock at Scots college isn't accurate as the referees posses their own watch with the correct time. Thus leading to the conclusion that streamer and the official scoreboard at the game isn't accurate.
Sincerely
 

Scrums'N'Bars

Stan Wickham (3)
Way too early Power rankings:

1. Newington - only undefeated team after 2 rounds (shows how tight the comp will be), looked well drilled at the ruck as well as a strong set piece, along with a few players to come back from injury, will look to storm this competition 10 years on from their last.

2. Joeys - still second, was a very tough game against Newington only going down by 1 point. Also with a few players coming back soon should be a very strong team looking to push Newington.

3. Riverview - With the tight loss to Newington last week as well as beating Kings comfortably and troubling the Kings scrum. They are a dark horse to push in the second half of the season.

4. Kings - Although they suffered a tough loss to View, they have the players and skill to challenge any team on there day seen in both pre-season games against Newington.

5. Scots - Don't have much to say on Scots, they have some very skilled players like the Large brothers and big Heinz Lemoto, they did struggle to beat Shore. Again not much to say.

6. Shore - from Premiers last year to bottom of my rankings this year. Without Rex for half the season and Jai for who knows how long as well as all the year 12 talent from last year, I cant see them doing much until Rex and Jai are back.

So much can change in such a long season, when I come back to this at the end of the year, it will probably be laughable.

-Scrums
 

theruckingdead

Bob McCowan (2)
I believe the 7ths game against shore was cut short due to a broken rib or something along those lines.
I did hear similar news of a hit to the ribs taking a shore boy to the ground for quite some time. Game was called off with only minutes to go anyways. Scots ended up winning the game by 5 tries.
 

Try Line Vet

Bob McCowan (2)
Anyone got a match report on Scots v Shore 3rds. Heard it was pretty tight

yours truly
bs21
It was a bit of a muddy day out at Bellevue Hill. The Scots boys definitely started very slowly, and the Shore boys came out charging strong. Early tries from Shore gave them the early lead and definitely set the tone for the first half. Scots looked strong when they had the ball, but were pushing unnecessary passes, which cost them possession and ultimately led to Shore being more on the attack and Scots being put on the back foot. In the second half, the Scots boys definitely got a strong word, and it seemed like they came out stronger and showed more endurance than the Shore boys, being a lot more dominant in the second half and bringing the game back. Ultimately, Shore stayed ahead, but Scots definitely woke up in the second half. Both teams played great footy despite the conditions, and it was another great day of watching footy in Bellevue Hill.

It was a sad day for the Scots 3's, but it was a good wake-up call before round 1 next week. I can't wait to see how they match up against King's Round 1 on Scots main oval.

TrylineVet Out
 

Elbow Patch

Frank Row (1)
An unbelievable win and one of the historic days in schoolboy rugby for Newington College, although I’m afraid it’s been overshadowed by the school’s rotten behaviour. In all my years affiliated with the College (ON1978), I have never seen such unsportsmanlike conduct when the Joeys #10 was being vehemently booed during a conversion attempt late in the 1st half.

Not sure if anyone else was there - but for me it’s completely unacceptable. And, with the final score being 40-39, it could hold serious ramifications for the season’s trajectory with Newington gaining momentum…

PS - does anyone have tabs on the Joeys #15? Was easily the best on field despite being on the losing team, and have heard rumours he’s in Year 10

Regards,
Loosehead.
Hardly overshadowed. Anyway, put some perspective. New students are not allowed to sit on stadium side, so instead they are provided an aluminum scaffolding quality seats on the other side of the oval where half the side of the field is roped off for spectators?! Absolutely comical.
If you want some respect, maybe joeys should make some seating available for opposing teams instead of this arrangement.
 

JoeBoar03

Bob McCowan (2)
From what I saw, Newingtons away crowd was better then expected. Probably about slightly more than 100. They were vocal the entire game and only booed when Joeys scored while number 1 (Akioula) was unconscious.
 
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