NSW Schools Debating 2023
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Chat GPT couldn’t have said it better
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Frank Nicholson (4)
I think Chat GPT would probably have been intelligent enough to have addressed all humans, read the forum and therefore not asked the first question, and probably not wasted its time. But that's just Chat GPT.
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ISDA RUN DOWN OF TEAMS LEFT AND PROBABILITY OF WINNING:
8: Shore 5% - A solid team, yet they were in an easy pool with a relatively easy octo. Historically Shore have not been a big name on the circuit.
7: Cranbrook 5% - A lot is unknown about this team; however, they have overcome big names such as Joey's and even knocked out Knox.
6: Scots 6% - Losing state speaker for semis may make it very difficult for them to make it through. Solid team, though.
5: Barker 8% - Same as Scots, very solid team, perhaps a fair bit stronger, but losing their state speaker for semis is fatal.
4: Riverview 15% - Have had a very strong ISDA season and are definitely in contention; however, they were in an easy pool/octo.
3: Joey's 17% - Amazing form ever since 2022 GPS, however loss to Cranbrook is somewhat concerning! Definitely in contention, though.
2: Aloys 20% - Juggernaut of ISDA debating, undefeated and won against a strong Pymble. Very strong chance.
1: Grammar 30% - The GOAT School of debating; even though they are weaker than in previous years, they truly are a force to be reckoned with, and my favourite to take the trophy. They have amazing depth and speakers.
8: Shore 5% - A solid team, yet they were in an easy pool with a relatively easy octo. Historically Shore have not been a big name on the circuit.
7: Cranbrook 5% - A lot is unknown about this team; however, they have overcome big names such as Joey's and even knocked out Knox.
6: Scots 6% - Losing state speaker for semis may make it very difficult for them to make it through. Solid team, though.
5: Barker 8% - Same as Scots, very solid team, perhaps a fair bit stronger, but losing their state speaker for semis is fatal.
4: Riverview 15% - Have had a very strong ISDA season and are definitely in contention; however, they were in an easy pool/octo.
3: Joey's 17% - Amazing form ever since 2022 GPS, however loss to Cranbrook is somewhat concerning! Definitely in contention, though.
2: Aloys 20% - Juggernaut of ISDA debating, undefeated and won against a strong Pymble. Very strong chance.
1: Grammar 30% - The GOAT School of debating; even though they are weaker than in previous years, they truly are a force to be reckoned with, and my favourite to take the trophy. They have amazing depth and speakers.
It’s good all archdale teams are at full strength for the start of the competition.
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Frank Nicholson (4)
Yawn. Meaningless unsubstantiated drivel. And the probability percentages total something meaningless. Clearly not Chat GPT or a close impersonator.
If you're interested enough or lucky enough to be able to attend a debate advise the motion, congratulate the winners, commiserate with the losers, comment on the strengths of each side's offering. Don't mention any personal names.
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Bob McCowan (2)
This is a joke. Could we get a mod to remove the obvious schoolboys from the thread? I have noticed this becoming a theme within the debating, fencing and rugby forums.
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Frank Row (1)
Read a lot of posts recently about the As but any predictions this week for ISDA Senior Bs?
Cmon Debater, what are your predictions ?
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Bob McCowan (2)
Cranbrook 5%!!!
With the likes of Owen Magee who could be considered a parliamentary statistical genius...
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Bob McCowan (2)
G'day Fellas,
Wowee interesting predictions champions.
Wowee interesting predictions champions.
gooseylover101
Bob McCowan (2)
Fellas,
Cranbrook beat the undefeated Joey's debating team as well as the competition heavyweights Knox...
They are not getting nearly enough recognition! (5%).
Their first and third speaker is absolutely phenomenal.
GIVE THEM THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE!
Cranbrook beat the undefeated Joey's debating team as well as the competition heavyweights Knox...
They are not getting nearly enough recognition! (5%).
Their first and third speaker is absolutely phenomenal.
GIVE THEM THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE!
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Ward Prentice (10)
I have heard about the Cranbrook team. The giant slayers they are referred to around Bellevue hill with wins against the likes of Joeys and Knox. If you have the likes of Joeys among the favourites surely Cranbrook must be higher up. With the debating team of Robbie Wyer, Caspar Nicholson, Owen Magee (c) and Joseph Bartram.
They might usually be higher up, it’s just they face an undefeated team tonight,who is also undefeated in CAS.
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Herbert Moran (7)
So Aloys, Joeys, Grammar and Barker won last night. 4 Aff wins and 2 neg wins in Senior A/B. Anyone have news on if national schools means that Grammar against Barker gets rescheduled?
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In all seriousness, why should any school accept a reschedule for a semi final ? They could be placed at a big disadvantage for the final by rescheduling to the following week let’s say, having to debate late at night then go to school etc then do it again next Friday. Year 12 is busy enough so it’s a big imposition.
The State team has reserves for this very reason.
Cue the wrath from the commentariat.
btw my comment is not directed at Debater, Debater is a legend and merely asking the question.
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Frank Nicholson (4)
It’s the right thing to do. Insisting on a match against a team knowingly depleted due to one or more members selected for the state team choosing to attend the nationals would be unsportspersonlike and unfair. A victory would be hollow and lacking in integrity.
Anyone in the Senior teams would be expected to have decent time-management skills. ‘Imposition’ is a misconstrued concept in this situation. The argument presented lacks clarity so is difficult to understand.
Given the nationals are ‘always’ in May, surely there’s precedent?
Debater
Herbert Moran (7)
Thank you!This makes sense. I think rescheduling is just the orderly thing to do. You don't want to be known as the school that takes advantage of other teams' situations like this. I also think it is just better to go against a team at full strength. It is a much better form of preparation for the grand final if you make it and I think your win will feel tainted if you deny a request to reschedule. You don't want the feeling of an * being next to your victory.
Also, I understand that changing the time will be challenging especially given you need three adjudicators, can't miss school and other commitments etc., but on the year 12s having other things to do, are we sure that all of the Grammar team are in year 12? Also worth noting that Archdale is on Tuesday nights and the students cope well. Debating doesn't have to be on Fridays.