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Paarl Gym 150th year & Ruaan Smith

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PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Paarl Gimmies have produce 9 players to WP Cravenweek side in 2008 in their 150 th year.
Included is Ruaan Smit that played last year for Aus A. Hope he make the SA Schools team.

WP U18

15 William Du Randt (Bishops)
14 Tythan Adams (Paul Roos)
13 Jaco Olivier (Boland Landbou)
12 Louis Jordaan (Paarl Gym)
11 JR Esterhuizen (Paarl Gym)
10 JH Potgieter (Paarl Gym)
9 Louis Schreuder (Paarl Gym)
8 Reuben Johannes (Paul Roos)
7 Nizaam Carr (Bishops)
6 Helmut Lehmann (Paarl Gym)
5 Reniel Hugo (Paul Roos)
4 William Clift (Paarl Boys? High)
3 Marcel van der Merwe (Paarl Boys? High)
2 JC Julyan (Paarl Gym)
1 Ruan Smith (Paarl Gym)
16 Gary Topkin (Rondebosch)
17 Frans Malherbe (Paarl Boys? High)
18 Johan Schoonbie (Paarl Gym)
19 Jacquin Rogers (Paarl Gym)
20 Rick Schroeder (Paul Roos)
21 Dylan Petersen (Paul Roos)
22 Logan Solomons (Scottsdene)

Click here to see more about our past history and to see more about the Incredibal Schalke.
http://www.derbyday.co.za/pdfs/schools/paarl gim.pdf
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Also heard the good news that they will build a astro hockey pitch at Gimmies costing R4 Million bokke. We dont have one in Paarl , so this is great news for all the talent running around. Building will start as soon as this season ends in October and will be finish in january.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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You guys should be ashamed - poaching our schoolboys. ;D ;D ;D

Good news about the hockey pitch - in the context of your recent remarks.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Thanks Lee. Ja myself sitting on the parent hockey commitee and hard work to get started for long years now. Sometime I kick myself with all the stumbling blocks you have to get through to get things done but really this was a long time coming.

Spending last saturday at Kuilsrivier sportsgrounds and watching our lot doing the BEE develop thing. Dont know if Thomo know this lot but its the "jhy & jyo" part and not nice supporters that side of the river. Watchng our sport lot rugby, hockey & netball killing them C team 114-5 & first team 89-0 hockey 6-0 up at half time and never think this is good for the kids. But that sort of keep them quiet and look like winning the WC when their teams do get a goal or scoring a try against our lot.

The schools closing on fryday and now I'll get more time to spent in the garden on saturdays. Realize only a week before the haka starts. :nta:
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
I usually do the kids coaching thing and walking the dog on sunday afternoons and run into Ruan this afternoon. Sound pretty positive for the season but look like he just maybe back into Queensland jersey after this year. He said they want him badly and if things dont look good here he wont hesitate to move back to Aus.
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Can he play tight-head? If so, we might have to get together a Friends of Ruaan fundraiser.
 

the gambler

Dave Cowper (27)
PB. Have you seen this article from The Austrlian last week?

AUSTRALIA is to venture into the heartland of South African rugby, Craven Week, in a bid to recruit the big, rawboned forwards it can't seem to produce itself.
Craven Week is the annual schoolboys tournament which showcases the emerging talent of the next generation of South African rugby.
But this year's tournament, to run from July 6-12 in Pretoria, is about to take on an international flavour with the ARU quietly planning to send observers to the carnival, making contact with rising South African players.
Initially, there is likely to be no return on this investment of time and money, but the expectation in Australian rugby is that as South Africa goes further down the transformation path, Springboks teams will become almost totally dominated by black players.
If that happens, there could well be a crop of highly talented Afrikaaner players who find themselves denied Springboks honours because they are white.
This month, the ARU's elite player development manager Manu Sullivan and chief talent spotter, dual international Michael O'Connor, kept a close watch on the South African side at the IRB's Under-20 world championship in Wales, identifying players who might want to follow in the footsteps of Dan Vickerman and Clyde Rathbone in coming here to play for the Wallabies.
"There is plenty over there, although it's only a monitoring thing at this stage," O'Connor said.
"Down the track, if they're unsettled in South Africa and are thinking about making a move, then we might be able to help."
But for the first time in years, O'Connor believes Australia's own crop of young props does not need underpinning. "Ben Daley and Dan Palmer, our two under-20 props, are two of the best front-rowers on the international horizon," O'Connor said.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Havent seen it but is not surprise at all. Think they should rather go to the top school games because that where the real merit teams are still in tact. The provincial teams are already been qouta with their numbers and anyone that know a bit about our schoolboy rugby should tell you that anyone of the top school teams will run over the provincial sides. Nowadays they took the top school teams and full them up to get to the qouta numbers. Something like
EP - Grey PE, Bulle - Affies, WP - Paarl Gimmies & Cheetahs - Grey College. Those are the strong ones and have the most players in the Craven Week sides. If you take the miss out ones you probably pick the cream for outside SA

We have the U13 Craven week now starting today at Paarl, also the U18 Academy Week (this is U17 for your next year Craven Week U18 teams) also in Paarl and then you got your U16s playing as Grant Khomo Week.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
WP losing against the Pumas on monday. Just look at the game and think Ruaan had a very good game. Seem he caught the eye with his 125 kg frame scrumming against one of that tough Middelburg THs 121 kg but monstered him in the scrums. Also showed some nice touches in the backline and drives. WP play against the Bulle and surely a tough one. The Bulle losing to SWD , this just about show the differense with the normal schools where the provinces have to pick on numbers and schools on merit. Also watch a bit yesterday the game between Lions & Cheetahs. Good rugby.

Just some history regarding our anually Craven Week

Rugby365
Craven Week, the greatest schoolboy rugby tournament in the world, seems to have been around forever. But like all things, it had a birth.

It was a healthy birth but not universally welcomed. There were those who thought it a bad idea. Schools and schoolmasters are conservative, which is a natural reaction to the constantly changing world in which schools exist. Some did not like the singling out of individuals. Some thought it was against the educational spirit of school sport. Some thought it smacked of professionalism. But it went ahead in 1964. The initial idea came from Piet Malan, then 1949 Springbok flank, currently the oldest living Springbok. After all the 75th anniversary of the South African Rugby Board was due and, in Potgietersrus, Malan asked Danie Craven how schools in South Africa could figure in the celebrations. Craven's Board decided to get the 15 schools unions together for a week. The man who picked up the idea and ran with it, on and one for many years, was Jan Preuyt, an East London schoolmaster, once a missionary in Nigeria.

At the time Jan Preuyt, an ex-Matie and a former Griqualand West player, was a teacher at Port Rex Technical School and chairman of Border Schools with Dummy Taylor of Queen's College as the secretary. There was no such thing as a South African Schools organisation and the SA Rugby Board was not involved. Border Schools did it all. East London then put on the first-ever Craven Week in July 1964. For many provinces it was a novelty to choose a provincial team. Western Province solved the problem by inviting its long-standing schools to nominate players and from that a team was cobbled together which did remarkably well, better in fact than some "expertly" chosen teams.

The teams taking part in the first Craven Week were Boland, Border, Eastern Province, Eastern Transvaal, Griqualand West, Natal, North Eastern Cape, Northern Transvaal, Orange Free State, Rhodesia, South West Africa, South Western Districts, Transvaal, Western Province and Western Transvaal. By 1987 there were 28 teams taking part at Craven Week. In 2000 there were be 32 teams.

In 2001 the format changed again and only 20 teams took part ? the 14 provinces plus Namibia and Zimbabwe and four regional teams ? Eastern Coast, Western Coast, Central and Northern. That did not last long.

This year things have not changed. There will be 20 teams - one from each province plus Limpopo, Border Country Districts, Griquas Country Districts, Eastern Province Country Districts, Namibia and Zimbabwe. The area most obviously left out is Northern Natal which includes Newcastle, Ladysmith, Dundee, Glencoe, Estcourt and Vryheid.

At that Craven Week the first SA Schools committee was chosen - Jan Preuyt (chairman), Trens Erasmus (Western Transvaal), Wouter du Toit (Transvaal), Hennie Lochner (Boland) and Meyer Sauerman (Eastern Province). In 1965 Craven Week was again held in East London, to consolidate the new foundation which very soon developed its own spirit and modus operandi. In 1974, for the first time ever, a national schools team was chosen. This was against Danie Craven's will as he wanted Craven Week to be a festival, not a competition and certainly not trials. That is why, when Australian Schools undertook their first tour in 1969, no South African Schools team was chosen.

Since 1974 a South African schools team has been chosen each year. Forget all the non-competitive stuff. There is no official winner but there is no doubt that the last match on the last day is seen as a final and the winner of that match as the Craven Week champions. Moreover, while good behaviour is a hallmark of Craven Week, there have been repeated outbursts of bad sportsmanship, mainly as a result of provincialism.

Apart from selecting national teams, Craven Weeks have been a great hunting ground for talent scouts. Many provinces go to elaborate lengths to choose their Craven Week sides and generally it is a week where kudos reigns.

The next big change came in 1980 when Danie Craven forced the Craven Week organisers to open the week to all races. That was the last year in which Rhodesia participated. South West Africa would also cease to participate when the country became Namibia.

The next big change for all rugby in South Africa came about in 1992 with the fusion of the national bodies.

Right from the 1964 start there were changes in the teams attending Craven Week. The number of teams increased as new provinces were created and with the entry of teams which had been excluded for political reasons. Each year since 1980 there has been an effort to give more players a chance to take part in Craven Week. In 1996 the quota system was introduced.

In 1987 the old SA Rugby Board introduced a Project Tournament, which by 1991 had 16 teams taking part, all based on a quota system that was at least 50-50. In 1987 the Project Tournament's selected team went on to play at Craven Week. In that team were Justin Swart, who later became a Springbok, Etienne Finn, who became a Springbok in 2001, and Louis Mzomba who became an international referee, the first Xhosa-speaker to do so. This system was more or less adopted by SARFU/SARU as the Academy Week.

For many years two teams were chosen at the end of the Craven Week - the SA Schools XV and the SA Nampak XV, which team was chosen from the Academy Week and played against SA Schools, has been replaced by the SA Academy XV. Often they played each other. In 2006 things changed. The Academy team became the South African Schools B team and played - and beat - Italy.

In 1988, after 19 years in charge, Jan Preuyt declared himself unavailable for re-election as chairman of SA Schools. His place was taken by Louis Terblanche of Western Province. In 1996 Terblanche was unavailable for re-election and was succeeded by Dr Christo Bekker of Northern Transvaal.

Later Craven Week came to fall under the United Schools Sport Association of South Africa (USSASA) under the chairmanship of Dries van Heerden of HTS Vereeniging. He was succeeded by the present chairman, Lindsay Mould, the principal of Grey Primary School in Bloemfontein, the first to chair both High Schools and Junior Schools rugby.

On 27 April 2006 Jan Preuyt died at his daughter?s house in Cathcart on 27 April 2006 He was 83 years of age, survived by his wife, Johlene, six children and nine grandchildren. His ashes were scattered at ABSA Stadium, the Border Rugby Union's headquarters in East London.

In 2008 Piet Malan, whose brainchild the Craven Week is, is the oldest living Springbok.

Craven Week venues down the years

The Craven Week 2007 will be the fourth hosted by Stellenbosch, the second hosted by an individual school.

In 2005 Grey College, celebrating its 150th birthday, hosted the Craven Week in Bloemfontein. In 2007 it was the turn of Paul Roos Gymnasium. In 2008 uit moved to Affies in Pretoria.

The Craven Week for High Schools has taken place at the following venues:

1964: East London
1965: East London
1966: Pretoria
1967: Cape Town
1968: Bloemfontein
1969: :pietermaritzburg
1970: Salisbury - now Harare
1971: Kimberley
1972: Potchefstroom
1973: Stellenbosch
1974: Johannesburg
1975: Pretoria
1976: Wolmaransstad
1977: Oudtshoorn
1978: Middelburg
1979: East London
1980: Stellenbosch
1981: Worcester
1982: Windhoek
1983: Upington
1984: Bloemfontein
1985: Witbank
1986: Graaff-Reinet
1987: Paarl
1988: Port Elizabeth
1989: Johannesburg
1990: Durban
1991: East London
1992: Pretoria
1993: Secunda
1994: Newcastle
1995: Bloemfontein
1996: Stellenbosch
1997: Kimberley
1998: Vanderbijl Park
1999: George
2000: Port Elizabeth
2001: Rustenburg
2002: Pietermaritzburg
2003: Wellington
2004: Nelspruit
2005: Bloemfontein
2006: Johannesburg
2007: Stellenbosch
2008: Pretoria
Results for the two days
TUESDAY, JULY 8
U18 Coca-Cola Craven Week
Konica Minolta Free State 44 - 29 Lions
Kwazulu-Natal 34 - 15 Griffons
Valke 40 - 32 Griquas
Leopards 22 - 45 Eastern Province
Border 10 - 18 Zimbabwe

MONDAY, JULY 7
U18 Coca-Cola Craven Week
Vodacom Blue Bulls 21 - 26 SWD
Western Province 17 - 19 Pumas
Limpopo 21 - 32 Boland
Namibia 36 - 11 Border CD
Griquas CD 10 - 28 Eastern Province CD

CD = Country Districts. Thats where the hard buggers come from.
 

naza

Alan Cameron (40)
PaarlBok said:
LH Doc. According to him there is quite a big ask for Boer boy fatties from Aus.

The Springbok scrum is the most overrated on the planet. We'll take your locks and loose forwards thanks, and source the prime front row beef from Argentina and Inn Zid.

Let's go shopping !
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
naza said:
PaarlBok said:
LH Doc. According to him there is quite a big ask for Boer boy fatties from Aus.

The Springbok scrum is the most overrated on the planet. We'll take your locks and loose forwards thanks, and source the prime front row beef from Argentina and Inn Zid.

Let's go shopping !
Oh well in your own little world. Thats not what happen in the real world. Lets see in two weeks time. Vokket a Aus tell me we have the most overrated fatty dept, maybe you have the most underrated lot. :angryfire:
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Day three and WP hammer the Bulls 34-12. Nine Paarl Gim boys in the team and the young Bulle plays backfoot rugby from the start. Interesting stats tho is that Paarl Gim produce the biggest player, Ruan Smith 126 kg and the tallest one Scoonbee 2.05m. Know them both well and Scoonbee painting the ceiling when the kids had a painting job. No need for a ladder. I watch this game and must say young Johannes Potgieter , the WP 10 look like a young Lem. Tackle , good hands but a better boot on him.
Results
SWD 30 - 13 Pumas
Western Province 34 - 12 Vodacom Blue Bulls
Boland 44 - 6 Namibia
Eastern Province CD 17 - 13 Limpopo
Border CD 0 - 61 Griquas CD
Todays fixtures
THURSDAY, JULY 10
U18 Coca-Cola Craven Week
Leopards v Border 10:10
Zimbabwe v Griquas 11:30
Valke v Griffons 12:50
Eastern Province v Lions 14:10
Konica Minolta Free State v Kwazulu-Natal 15:30

By the way I dont know if Tommy Lawson is still involve in Aus or Sharks rugby but Borsniham was one of the commentators and mention about the high praise Lawson have for Ruaan.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Great news for me two Paarl Gim boys making SA Schools, sorry Lee say goodbye to Ruaan!

SA Schools team:

15-Patrick Lambie (KZN), 14-Tythan Adams (WP), 13-Wandile Mjekeyu (Golden Lions), 12-Francois Venter (Free State), 11-Abednego Mamushi (Mpumalanga), 10-Francois du Toit (Free State), 9-Chuma Faas (Eastern Province), 8-CJ Stander (SWD, captain), 7-Petrus Uys (Golden Lions), 6-Helmut Lehmann (WP), 5-Niel Kapp (SWD), 4-Andries Ferreira (Blue Bulls), 3-Neetlingh Gerricke (SWD), 2-Shaun Malton (KZN), 1-Ruan Smith (WP).
Replacements: 16-Gareth Topkin (WP), Njabulo Mkize (KZN), 18-Mlungisi Bali (Blue Bulls), 19-Siyamthanda Kolisi (EP), 20-Sinovuyo Nyoka (Border), 21-Elton Jantjies (Golden Lions), 22-Garth April (Boland).
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
We have a very special week in Paarl and thought I'll share it with you lot. I'll rate this rivalry in Paarl between Gimmies & Boishaai as one of the top ones on the planet of rugby. Being part of it because of my kids involvement in Gimmies its one that go back in the 1910s. Altho the main match will only be played on saturday between the two SA School giants on saturday interschools is much much more then just one rugby match. This time of year you get husband & wives seperate in bed because of this and all of it in one town. Just driving through the streets you notice in which camp is every house because the houses, cars, offices, streetpoles even our Akker trees get decorated in their supporting schools colour. The programs starts today with golf, chess and the prymary schools B hockey teams, teusday its prymary hockey, wednesday netball, thursday prymary schools rugby, fryday its high school netball and girls hockey & B teams and lower teams rugby and on the big day next saturday its the turn of the big boys rugby A teams and boys hockey.

Both schools have 20+ high school rugby teams from U14 - U18.

This is the playground of the prymary rugby & hockey teams, Cheve Fields.
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cyclopath

George Smith (75)
Staff member
Sounds like a good week PB. Lovely backdrop in the photos. Thanks for sharing, mate! :thumb
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
My involvement will be that my small kid is playing U10A rugby (wednesday) and hockey (tuesday). Girl playing hockey for U18B or Seccies (thats what they call it) and my oldest son will play for the Old Boys hockey on teusday night and coaching the U14 & 16 hockey teams.

Hope the weather holds up but usually this time we have rain. Not that this will demper the spirits of this rivalry.

On saturday the Faure Stadium , Paarl Rugby club will host 20,000+ spectators. Does not matter if the Bokke plays in the same time and all this matches will have what we call a Big Brag. This is when the teams get presented in front of the whole school and the A teams get capped.

Tonight we also have a Mr & Miss Interschools gala with judges like Liefling , Derick Hougaard, Louis Koen, x Gimmie and Schalkies mum and sister. Obvious this one is not for me and I'll leave it to my girl, she loves this kind of thing.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Last weekend we had a ugly incident when Gimmies played Bishops. In all the local newspapers the Slaapstadters claim a Bishop U16 boy (Guy Kebble , that fat arse prop, son) been bitten by a Gimmie boy and his ear sort of cut lose. Always two sides to a story and according to my info he get trapped under a rock and get the good old boot. Then there is the addition of one of our ministers (the one that wear a All Black jersey on Newlands when we played them a few years back)running on the field with another Bishops parent on the field and start pushing the Gim boys around. They nearly got klapped by 15 year old boer boys. That usually happened when you beloved son's team start to lose. SA & Rugby aint for sussies, hey?

Anyway KleinGym doing the whitewash yesterday and the boys beating the Galpille 5-0 and girls winning 3-0. My kids team U10A won 4-2 and my one scoring a hat trick in his first interschools hockey match against Boishaai. The oldest one game ending in a 1-1 draw for the old boys and good to see the Galpille really turning bitter when not getting a win.

Today its netball and it look like the rugby tomorrow will be played in rain.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
naza said:
PaarlBok said:
LH Doc. According to him there is quite a big ask for Boer boy fatties from Aus.

The Springbok scrum is the most overrated on the planet. We'll take your locks and loose forwards thanks, and source the prime front row beef from Argentina and Inn Zid.

Let's go shopping !

Agreed. The current scrum is way overrated. :angryfire:

However if you think there is not an amazing breeding ground for future props you are dreaming.

We are selecting the wrong people and the scrum coaching is up to shit. We are seeing the result of nothing being doen under Jake White to blood young props and also that there was no specialist scrum coach invovled for years. The Bokes rested on their Laurels and are now seeing the results of that.

Don't judge toe country's stocks on what you see with the Boks who are playing a LH at TH and leave their three best TH's out of the squad... :angryfire:
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
My Brute broer agreed 100%. Heinke van der Merwe destroyed 2 of the 3 you think are top notch on the weekend.

Think the player drain plays a huge role in the shortage of TH in SA. We produce them year after year after year from schoolboy but we all know they need to get close or over the 30s to hit top notch. At that time most of them have already hit the road.
 
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