Reds v Drua

[dillyboy]

No thread this week - are we all too hurt from last week's loos still?

On a plus for us, Flook's back!


Queensland Reds vs Fijian Drua
Saturday, May 31

Suncorp Stadium

7:35pm AEST

1. Sef Fa’agase - Sunnybank – Shailer Park State High – Beaudesert Warriors

2. Richie Asiata - Sunnybank – Anglican Church Grammar School

3. Zane Nonggorr - Bond University – The Southport School – Gold Coast Eagles

4. Josh Canham – Bond University - Brighton Grammar, Melb - Harlequins RC, Melb

5. Ryan Smith – Brothers – St Patrick’s College, Shorncliffe – Caboolture Snakes

6. Joe Brial – University of Queensland – Scots College – Easts, Sydney

7. Fraser McReight (vc) – Brothers – Brisbane Grammar – Albany Creek Brumbies

8. Harry Wilson – Brothers – St Joseph’s College Gregory Terrace – Gunnedah Red Devils

9. Tate McDermott (c) - University of Queensland - Sunshine Coast Grammar - Flinders RC

10. Tom Lynagh – University of Queensland – Epsom College – Richmond RC, UK

11. Tim Ryan – Brothers – St Patrick’s College, Shorncliffe

12. Hunter Paisami – Wests – Mangere College, Auckland - Manukau Rovers

13. Josh Flook – Brothers – Nudgee College - Brothers

14. Lachie Anderson – University of Queensland - Oakhill College, Sydney – Dural RC, Sydney

15. Jock Campbell – University of Queensland – The Southport School – Inverell Highlanders

Reserves:
16. Josh Nasser – University of Queensland - St Joseph’s Gregory Terrace - Easts

17. Jeffery Toomaga-Allen - Norths - Wellington College, NZ

18. Nick Bloomfield – Easts – Anglican Church Grammar School - Easts

19. Angus Blyth – Bond University – The Southport School – Casuarina Beach RC

20. John Bryant - Souths - St Laurence’s College - Souths

21. Kalani Thomas – University of Queensland – Ipswich Grammar School - Souths

22. Harry McLaughlin-Phillips – Wests – Brisbane Boys’ College – Gunnedah Red Devils

23. Filipo Daugunu – Sunnybank - Dogotuki District School, Fiji

Unavailable through injury: George Blake, Massimo De Lutiis, Matt Faessler, Matt Gibbon, Frankie Goldsbrough, Mason Gordon, Isaac Henry, Alex Hodgman, Will McCulloch, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Seru Uru, Liam Wright

 

[Mark Panga]

No thread this week - are we all too hurt from last week's loos still?

On a plus for us, Flook's back!


Queensland Reds vs Fijian Drua
Saturday, May 31

Suncorp Stadium

7:35pm AEST

1. Sef Fa’agase - Sunnybank – Shailer Park State High – Beaudesert Warriors

2. Richie Asiata - Sunnybank – Anglican Church Grammar School

3. Zane Nonggorr - Bond University – The Southport School – Gold Coast Eagles

4. Josh Canham – Bond University - Brighton Grammar, Melb - Harlequins RC, Melb

5. Ryan Smith – Brothers – St Patrick’s College, Shorncliffe – Caboolture Snakes

6. Joe Brial – University of Queensland – Scots College – Easts, Sydney

7. Fraser McReight (vc) – Brothers – Brisbane Grammar – Albany Creek Brumbies

8. Harry Wilson – Brothers – St Joseph’s College Gregory Terrace – Gunnedah Red Devils

9. Tate McDermott (c) - University of Queensland - Sunshine Coast Grammar - Flinders RC

10. Tom Lynagh – University of Queensland – Epsom College – Richmond RC, UK

11. Tim Ryan – Brothers – St Patrick’s College, Shorncliffe

12. Hunter Paisami – Wests – Mangere College, Auckland - Manukau Rovers

13. Josh Flook – Brothers – Nudgee College - Brothers

14. Lachie Anderson – University of Queensland - Oakhill College, Sydney – Dural RC, Sydney

15. Jock Campbell – University of Queensland – The Southport School – Inverell Highlanders

Reserves:
16. Josh Nasser – University of Queensland - St Joseph’s Gregory Terrace - Easts

17. Jeffery Toomaga-Allen - Norths - Wellington College, NZ

18. Nick Bloomfield – Easts – Anglican Church Grammar School - Easts

19. Angus Blyth – Bond University – The Southport School – Casuarina Beach RC

20. John Bryant - Souths - St Laurence’s College - Souths

21. Kalani Thomas – University of Queensland – Ipswich Grammar School - Souths

22. Harry McLaughlin-Phillips – Wests – Brisbane Boys’ College – Gunnedah Red Devils

23. Filipo Daugunu – Sunnybank - Dogotuki District School, Fiji

Unavailable through injury: George Blake, Massimo De Lutiis, Matt Faessler, Matt Gibbon, Frankie Goldsbrough, Mason Gordon, Isaac Henry, Alex Hodgman, Will McCulloch, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Seru Uru, Liam Wright

Solid team - Reds will give it their best shot. Pity though Seru Uru isn’t available - he’s great against the Drua ! That isn’t to say Joe Brial isn’t a good pick - he’s played so well - he’ll be great too.

 

[Spamnoodle]

I'm not sold on Tim Ryan this season, he gets bossed around a lot and has been somewhat poor into contact\ ball security.Reckon he needs to add a few kgs to be a constant at this level.
Would much rather see Filippo started.

 

[Ras]

I'm not sold on Tim Ryan this season, he gets bossed around a lot and has been somewhat poor into contact\ ball security.Reckon he needs to add a few kgs to be a constant at this level.
Would much rather see Filippo started.

Agreed - he has been found out with his defensive reads and has lost a lot of his contact battles with his lack of physicality/strength. Seems the weapons he had in his finishing/game breaking footwork have been nullified.

Classic second year syndrome, lets hope for a big off season in the gym and a big preseason. with flook back and Dre's breakout year he could be fighting for a bench spot at this rate.

 

[Sword of Justice]

We’ve also struggled to get him front foot ball in space to be frank. The play hasn’t really broken up around him to take advantage.

I’d say we are a slightly better team this year than last, notwithstanding injuries but getting our outside backs involved on offense has been a weak point for us this year. Campbell is a similar story and it’s only that Daugunu is so good in tight that he’s been able to impose himself.

 

[PhilClinton]

This is close to the strongest team available, particularly with the backline.

I know it might take some time for Flook to get his groove back, but this is the group of players who really need to be performing and winning these games if the Reds are going to make significant leaps forward over the next couple of seasons.

These guys should be aiming up for a big bonus point win.

 

[JRugby2]

I'm not sold on Tim Ryan this season, he gets bossed around a lot and has been somewhat poor into contact\ ball security.Reckon he needs to add a few kgs to be a constant at this level.
Would much rather see Filippo started.

Especially considering it seems wing will be his best chance of a gold jersey this year. Agree - it's a head scratcher,

 

[Wilson]

Especially considering it seems wing will be his best chance of a gold jersey this year. Agree - it's a head scratcher,

I think it's probably about planning on having him come on for Flook so they can try and avoid loading Flook too heavily on his first week back, while also managing Daugunu's minutes.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Get a nice 50-60 into Flook for confidence and fitness, let Daugunu have a bit of rest as well as he's done a mountain of work this season seems a pretty good choice.

Daugunu will start in Tests this year. He's shown enough that this won't hurt him.

Ryan is having a classic bit of second year syndrome but it's good he's played so much. He doesn't surprise anyone this season and that's not a fault of his. He'll develop much faster than being shoved into Club Rugby where mistakes aren't punished and he's not having to push it as much.

 

[dillyboy]

Ryan has definitely not shown the standard we expected of him after the brilliant run he had last year.

The different centre pairing we've put out there pretty much every week certainly hasn't helped him though.....

That being said, I'd like him to stack on a few more kgs of muscle in the off season if he can do that & keep his speed

 

[Spamnoodle]

I think it's probably about planning on having him come on for Flook so they can try and avoid loading Flook too heavily on his first week back, while also managing Daugunu's minutes.

Fair call

 

[Spamnoodle]

We’ve also struggled to get him front foot ball in space to be frank. The play hasn’t really broken up around him to take advantage.

I’d say we are a slightly better team this year than last, notwithstanding injuries but getting our outside backs involved on offense has been a weak point for us this year. Campbell is a similar story and it’s only that Daugunu is so good in tight that he’s been able to impose himself.

It's not really his abilities with the ball in hand, nor his abilities under the high ball or kick returns. It just seems to me that he turns a lot of ball over going into contact and isn't dominant in any contact.
It seems Joe Schmidt was spot on in his assessments when asked last year about his Wallaby aspirations.
Needs to add some bulk. As others have noted, preferably without sacrificing his current positives.

 

[Sword of Justice]

It's not really his abilities with the ball in hand, nor his abilities under the high ball or kick returns. It just seems to me that he turns a lot of ball over going into contact and isn't dominant in any contact.
It seems Joe Schmidt was spot on in his assessments when asked last year about his Wallaby aspirations.
Needs to add some bulk. As others have noted, preferably without sacrificing his current positives.

That’ll be his biggest challenge. His change of direction was so lethal but can he do it with bulk. If he can it’ll take more time so I hope the reds keep throwing him a bone with game time.

 

[cyclopath]

Reds by 20+

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

That’ll be his biggest challenge. His change of direction was so lethal but can he do it with bulk. If he can it’ll take more time so I hope the reds keep throwing him a bone with game time.

Time. Just give him time to naturally fill out a bit more. I know Schmidt told him he needed development last year but you walk a fine line of losing your edge and injury chances go up.

He just needs to keep up with the S&C and lean into his strengths but doesn't have to hit it thinking I need to be 6kg heavier by the start of next year.

He's 21 a and probably in low 80kg mark. I see he's listed anywhere from 82-88kg depending on the site. By 23-24 he should comfortably sit in the 86-90 mark at most. Speed is force, so I'll take the fast winger any day over someone telling me how powerful and strong another guy is yet they cant put the foot down when needed. We all love watching Lomu highlights but more games have been broken open by raw speed plays than power.

 

[Crashy]

No thread this week - are we all too hurt from last week's loos still?

On a plus for us, Flook's back!


Queensland Reds vs Fijian Drua
Saturday, May 31

Suncorp Stadium

7:35pm AEST

1. Sef Fa’agase - Sunnybank – Shailer Park State High – Beaudesert Warriors

2. Richie Asiata - Sunnybank – Anglican Church Grammar School

3. Zane Nonggorr - Bond University – The Southport School – Gold Coast Eagles

4. Josh Canham – Bond University - Brighton Grammar, Melb - Harlequins RC, Melb

5. Ryan Smith – Brothers – St Patrick’s College, Shorncliffe – Caboolture Snakes

6. Joe Brial – University of Queensland – Scots College – Easts, Sydney

7. Fraser McReight (vc) – Brothers – Brisbane Grammar – Albany Creek Brumbies

8. Harry Wilson – Brothers – St Joseph’s College Gregory Terrace – Gunnedah Red Devils

9. Tate McDermott (c) - University of Queensland - Sunshine Coast Grammar - Flinders RC

10. Tom Lynagh – University of Queensland – Epsom College – Richmond RC, UK

11. Tim Ryan – Brothers – St Patrick’s College, Shorncliffe

12. Hunter Paisami – Wests – Mangere College, Auckland - Manukau Rovers

13. Josh Flook – Brothers – Nudgee College - Brothers

14. Lachie Anderson – University of Queensland - Oakhill College, Sydney – Dural RC, Sydney

15. Jock Campbell – University of Queensland – The Southport School – Inverell Highlanders

Reserves:
16. Josh Nasser – University of Queensland - St Joseph’s Gregory Terrace - Easts

17. Jeffery Toomaga-Allen - Norths - Wellington College, NZ

18. Nick Bloomfield – Easts – Anglican Church Grammar School - Easts

19. Angus Blyth – Bond University – The Southport School – Casuarina Beach RC

20. John Bryant - Souths - St Laurence’s College - Souths

21. Kalani Thomas – University of Queensland – Ipswich Grammar School - Souths

22. Harry McLaughlin-Phillips – Wests – Brisbane Boys’ College – Gunnedah Red Devils

23. Filipo Daugunu – Sunnybank - Dogotuki District School, Fiji

Unavailable through injury: George Blake, Massimo De Lutiis, Matt Faessler, Matt Gibbon, Frankie Goldsbrough, Mason Gordon, Isaac Henry, Alex Hodgman, Will McCulloch, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Seru Uru, Liam Wright

Any idea how many of the 12 injured players are likely back for the Lions / Reds game? Gordon has retired from the game hasnt he?

 

[dru]

Time. Just give him time to naturally fill out a bit more. I know Schmidt told him he needed development last year but you walk a fine line of losing your edge and injury chances go up.

He just needs to keep up with the S&C and lean into his strengths but doesn't have to hit it thinking I need to be 6kg heavier by the start of next year.

He's 21 a and probably in low 80kg mark. I see he's listed anywhere from 82-88kg depending on the site. By 23-24 he should comfortably sit in the 86-90 mark at most. Speed is force, so I'll take the fast winger any day over someone telling me how powerful and strong another guy is yet they cant put the foot down when needed. We all love watching Lomu highlights but more games have been broken open by raw speed plays than power.

Look, I really agree with this but... in D where the attacker has size and generally will be moving with more speed than the defender, at that point "Speed = force" is working against you. I agree that Tim needs to not lose his dynamism and speed. The second year was predictable, let's see how things go from here.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Look, I really agree with this but... in D where the attacker has size and generally will be moving with more speed than the defender, at that point "Speed = force" is working against you. I agree that Tim needs to not lose his dynamism and speed. The second year was predictable, let's see how things go from here.

If he can nail good technique, positioningand the team has good structure he can be fine. He’s never going to be a 95-100kg Winger so it comes down to what we value. I personally like good footballers over physical specimens. They only get you so far