John Thornett (49)
They didn't discuss whether it was a shoulder charge or not. The ref simply said that Swinton lead with his arm. Again, it quite easy to see how the refs came to the decision they did when you follow the framework.It does if they're considering firstly whether an attempt at a legal tackle was made or not, i.e. a shoulder charge or not. At least part of the discussion at the time involved that.
Then it was about where first contact was made.