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Rugby 7s general chat

RebelYell

Trevor Allan (34)
Couple options for 7s in my opinion:

1 - Play Women's Sevens before and after Super Rugby games. QLD, NSW & 1 other team (Allies style) for the opening month of the season. USe all the big name, contracted players and show highlights etc at HT.
2- IPL style Sevens competition. Needs private equity to get it done. 8 teams across NZ & AU, 4 with womens teams, open it up to all nationalities from the World Series (and any XVs players, male or female, who can get a release). Play 3 or 4 tournaments in AU/NZ in a short space of time, preferably December or Jan.

Sevens ticks so many boxes for generation next - 'snackable' content, gender equity, few stoppages.
 

WorkingClassRugger

David Codey (61)
Couple options for 7s in my opinion:

1 - Play Women's Sevens before and after Super Rugby games. QLD, NSW & 1 other team (Allies style) for the opening month of the season. USe all the big name, contracted players and show highlights etc at HT.
2- IPL style Sevens competition. Needs private equity to get it done. 8 teams across NZ & AU, 4 with womens teams, open it up to all nationalities from the World Series (and any XVs players, male or female, who can get a release). Play 3 or 4 tournaments in AU/NZ in a short space of time, preferably December or Jan.

Sevens ticks so many boxes for generation next - 'snackable' content, gender equity, few stoppages.

This was proposed by Geoff Parkes over 6 years ago over on The Roar. https://www.theroar.com.au/2016/08/15/the-wrap-introducing-rugby-sevens-smash/

It's essentially what you've suggested and something I am still a fan of as much now as I was then. Though I tend to think it needs to be a bit more substantial that what was first proposed now considering the sporting landscape particularly in terms of women's sport have so rapidly evolved in the years since it was published. It seems crazy to me that Rugby Australia haven't at least entertained the idea of looking to better commercialise 7s. I'm not overly fussed about it needing to be with NZ and I would support it being primarily a womens vessel but if it needed mens then fine. I think the goal should be for 8 teams. Though you could do it with 4 to start easily enough.

Could be run in a similar fashion to the World Series but instead of pools teams fall into certain progressive games based on results until each teams ends up having played three games each round and based on where the finishing having been awarded points to determine where they sit on the ladder. Each team hosts a round. So it would run for 8 weeks with either a first past the post set up or some kind of finals round held.
 

RebelYell

Trevor Allan (34)
This was proposed by Geoff Parkes over 6 years ago over on The Roar. https://www.theroar.com.au/2016/08/15/the-wrap-introducing-rugby-sevens-smash/

It's essentially what you've suggested and something I am still a fan of as much now as I was then. Though I tend to think it needs to be a bit more substantial that what was first proposed now considering the sporting landscape particularly in terms of women's sport have so rapidly evolved in the years since it was published. It seems crazy to me that Rugby Australia haven't at least entertained the idea of looking to better commercialise 7s. I'm not overly fussed about it needing to be with NZ and I would support it being primarily a womens vessel but if it needed mens then fine. I think the goal should be for 8 teams. Though you could do it with 4 to start easily enough.

Could be run in a similar fashion to the World Series but instead of pools teams fall into certain progressive games based on results until each teams ends up having played three games each round and based on where the finishing having been awarded points to determine where they sit on the ladder. Each team hosts a round. So it would run for 8 weeks with either a first past the post set up or some kind of finals round held.
I think a key element is combining it with Super Rugby gamedays initially, boosting reasons to attend both competitions' fixtures.
 

WorkingClassRugger

David Codey (61)
I think a key element is combining it with Super Rugby gamedays initially, boosting reasons to attend both competitions' fixtures.

I differ on this. I think it should be targeted as a standalone structure in a relatively open slot in the calendar being the back end of the year in terms of Rugby. Attaching it to Super Rugby in my opinion would make it more of a sideshow that could be used as an excuse by those within the Rugby admin sphere to not properly push it and justify their mismanagement when it fails to amount to anything more. I mean, we've literally seen this happen in Super Rugby since the days of Super 12. Being a mere extended Wallabies trialling system. And that's been our primary men's professional pathway.

Truthfully, while I'd tune in anyway I still think this should be a purely women's Rugby vessel. Given the opportunity and promotion in terms of window to provide it with the best possible chances of success. Which I think would be something we'd actually have over other sports for the most part. Because as much as I enjoy watching the NRLW it still very much feels secondary to the NRL. Something akin to what you're suggesting but as a very deliberate standalone making the women the priority I personally think would be very appealing. And with the right mix of local and international talent something that would actually be very entertaining. But if it was tacked on to Super Rugby it won't receive the attention and room to be anything more than just a rebranded Aon 7s. Which while fun was never conceived as a commercial vessel.
 

waiopehu oldboy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
^ sure but it gives AusRL the inside running so to speak, they'll have had people watching these kids since they were 12 or 13 & will have identified the ones they really, really want to keep in their game. With perhaps a few exceptions Rugby will get the ones AusRL has passed on.
 

Adam84

Steve Williams (59)
^ sure but it gives AusRL the inside running so to speak, they'll have had people watching these kids since they were 12 or 13 & will have identified the ones they really, really want to keep in their game. With perhaps a few exceptions Rugby will get the ones AusRL has passed on.
Not necessarily. It’s a recruiting pool that scouts from any code can attend and until they’re signed they’re all free agents.
 
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