!.Bigger crowd? They vast majority of the crowd yesterday were North's supporters.How big would the crowd have been if North's weren't playing?Do you think that crowd would have been there if Norths were not in the grand final?1. Bigger crowd - North Sydney is in a 'heartland' area and much more likely to pick up casual rugby fans. Concord tends to only get die-hards and the club-affiliated.
2. Better atmosphere - The crowd is spread around the ground, with blokes standing on the hill. It's a lot of fun, and looks great on TV... unlike Concord.
3. Event precinct - Nearby pubs mean the party can continue nearby, and people don't feel obliged to get straight in their cars and leave.
4. More child-friendly - with a big grassy hill there were so many kids, and they all ran onto the ground at half and full time to have a kick around. Combined with the close location to many fans and it's much easier to bring the kids.
5. Quality of field - after a week of rain the North Sydney turf was immaculate.
So they are the main five. I suppose it's not so much about the death of Concord, rather the birth of North Sydney Oval as the home of the SS Final. Though I have to mention the only point where NS Oval was a massive let-down...
1. Shortness of goal posts - at only 23m high the North Sydney Oval goalposts were a whopping 48m shorter than those at Concord.
!.Bigger crowd? They vast majority of the crowd yesterday were North's supporters.How big would the crowd have been if North's weren't playing?Do you think that crowd would have been there if Norths were not in the grand final?
Why is North Sydney the "heartland " of Sydney Rugby.It's attitudes such as yours which condemns the development & spread of Rugby in Sydney anywhere West of Camperdown.
1. NSO might be in rugby's traditional "heartland" but I thought we were all committed to the growth of the game. Preaching to the converted in the game's "heartlands" the last 60ish years has got us in this mess we're currently wallowing in. I doubt very much if the "heartland" location of NSO got an extra paying spectator to the SS GF. Same for Concord, supporters, club members and family come to see their fellow club players/son/brothers, etc. run around but it is in Sydney's growing west. The "heartland" issue shouldn't be a determining factor.
If he plays he needs to play 6 or 7.Pretty sure I remember TC announcing his retirement at the end of 2014 and 2015 SS. What makes you think he won't be around again next year?
A one can limit is just horrendous though. It reminds me of years ago back in about 85 going to Bathurst 1000 where they had a 2 can limit. A mate spent the entire weekend walking back and forth to the beer tent fetching 2 cans. He'd no sooner be back at camp when his cans would be nearing empty and he'd have set off again!!
Lindo I take your points, and they are all valid enough. Ultimately it's a subjective exercise and I understand people like watching rugby in different venues.
But I do take exception to this:
It did get an extra spectator- me and my three mates. I don't support Norths or Uni, but I went because it was near my mate's place. I suggest that is true of a lot of people, actually, who saw it was on their doorstep and decided to wander down.
But this notion that we have to bend over backwards to 'grow the game' in everything we do is, frankly, exhausting. I am the biggest advocate for growing the game there is, but we don't have to do EVERYTHING in Western Sydney.
Why do we even have teams on the North Shore at all, if that's your logic? Let's just move them all out to Western Sydney.
I hardly think the Shute Shield Final has done anything to grow rugby numbers in Western Sydney.
A few handbags thrown by Beasties and Wicks groups on the hill and then Wicks and Uni had a disagreement before the Uni players ran out
Spoke to a security guard and the limited drinks order was due to cans being thrown during the hill incident
They were worried that some cans may be directed towards a certain university centre during the game
The people involved need to be identified and dealt with firmly. Good thing Rugby flies under the media radar. If that had happened at Mungo or Soccer it'd be all over the news. Very sad.Looked a little bit more than a "few scuffles" from the other side of the ground and when young kids see a bunch of pissed blokes beating the shit out of each other and police having to respond with pepper spray to break things up (as some have reported), not quite the image of the game we want them to have.
And then more "scuffles" in the welcome line as the players came out of the tunnel for the main fixture. Pretty ordinary all round really and a sad blight on what was otherwise a fantastic afternoon.