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Shute Shield 2019

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Old Hilly

Frank Row (1)
Like Referees, perhaps they (bean counters, that is) are a "necessary evil".......without them, maybe a club may not actually be able to operate successfully, to allow we the poor punters the ability to turn up on a Saturday afternoon to enjoy a match...
 

Gary Owen III

Syd Malcolm (24)
2019 is going to be an interesting (and hopefully positive) year for club rugby in NSW - particularly Sydney & the Shute Shield, with two major changes on the cards.

Firstly is the decision from Rugby Au to change the junior pathways in the U18s to allow club rugby players (that are under 18 and maybe no longer at school) to be eligible for selection in the Australian Schools & U18s team. Each state will select an U18 Academy side (eg Waratahs Academy) from both schools and clubs and from here the Australian Schools & U18s side will be selected. The NSW Academy for example will be selected from traditional games played between GPS, CHS, CAS, CCC, ISA & AICES as well as games involving NSWJRU (Sydney & Country U18s). This an inclusive step forward and gives the club rugby pathway true relevance and a viable alternative for some players that fall outside of the schools pathway.

Secondly is the new Shute Shield U18 Colts competition which starts this year. This allows for weekly Saturday club rugby competition games for many U18 players that previously did not have this option. Obviously the private schools will continue their comps as per normal but this is more for the Public & Catholic High school players that don't have a school competition option available. Plus is is aligned with the Premiership clubs and played on a Saturday meaning clashes with league on a Sunday are not an issue and giving players the option to play both if they wish. And with this U18 colts contributing to the club championship points it is an incentive for clubs to get out and recruit - hopefully even grow the game in this age group where we have seen participation falling for quite a while?

NSW U18 Rep Rugby Roadmap.PNG
 

WorkingClassRugger

David Codey (61)
2019 is going to be an interesting (and hopefully positive) year for club rugby in NSW - particularly Sydney & the Shute Shield, with two major changes on the cards.

Firstly is the decision from Rugby Au to change the junior pathways in the U18s to allow club rugby players (that are under 18 and maybe no longer at school) to be eligible for selection in the Australian Schools & U18s team. Each state will select an U18 Academy side (eg Waratahs Academy) from both schools and clubs and from here the Australian Schools & U18s side will be selected. The NSW Academy for example will be selected from traditional games played between GPS, CHS, CAS, CCC, ISA & AICES as well as games involving NSWJRU (Sydney & Country U18s). This an inclusive step forward and gives the club rugby pathway true relevance and a viable alternative for some players that fall outside of the schools pathway.

Secondly is the new Shute Shield U18 Colts competition which starts this year. This allows for weekly Saturday club rugby competition games for many U18 players that previously did not have this option. Obviously the private schools will continue their comps as per normal but this is more for the Public & Catholic High school players that don't have a school competition option available. Plus is is aligned with the Premiership clubs and played on a Saturday meaning clashes with league on a Sunday are not an issue and giving players the option to play both if they wish. And with this U18 colts contributing to the club championship points it is an incentive for clubs to get out and recruit - hopefully even grow the game in this age group where we have seen participation falling for quite a while?

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The U18s competition is a good initiative. I hope that they look to be a little more inclusive in this in the future and look to involve teams from other areas in Sydney (.i.e. Penrith, the Macarthur) down the line.
 

Rugby Central

Charlie Fox (21)
2019 is going to be an interesting (and hopefully positive) year for club rugby in NSW - particularly Sydney & the Shute Shield, with two major changes on the cards.

Firstly is the decision from Rugby Au to change the junior pathways in the U18s to allow club rugby players (that are under 18 and maybe no longer at school) to be eligible for selection in the Australian Schools & U18s team. Each state will select an U18 Academy side (eg Waratahs Academy) from both schools and clubs and from here the Australian Schools & U18s side will be selected. The NSW Academy for example will be selected from traditional games played between GPS, CHS, CAS, CCC, ISA & AICES as well as games involving NSWJRU (Sydney & Country U18s). This an inclusive step forward and gives the club rugby pathway true relevance and a viable alternative for some players that fall outside of the schools pathway.

Secondly is the new Shute Shield U18 Colts competition which starts this year. This allows for weekly Saturday club rugby competition games for many U18 players that previously did not have this option. Obviously the private schools will continue their comps as per normal but this is more for the Public & Catholic High school players that don't have a school competition option available. Plus is is aligned with the Premiership clubs and played on a Saturday meaning clashes with league on a Sunday are not an issue and giving players the option to play both if they wish. And with this U18 colts contributing to the club championship points it is an incentive for clubs to get out and recruit - hopefully even grow the game in this age group where we have seen participation falling for quite a while?

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This looks great. Judging by the chart, does this mean young Club players can have a shot at the U18 & Schools team at the National carnival?

Could only be a good thing. Especially as they would have been playing competition matches since early April along side U20's. U21's in the case of Subbies.
 

Gary Owen III

Syd Malcolm (24)
The U18s competition is a good initiative. I hope that they look to be a little more inclusive in this in the future and look to involve teams from other areas in Sydney (.i.e. Penrith, the Macarthur) down the line.

Penrith aka the Western Sydney Barbarians have been included and i am told are planning of fielding an U18 colts team as well as regular SRU U20 colts.
 

Gary Owen III

Syd Malcolm (24)
This looks great. Judging by the chart, does this mean young Club players can have a shot at the U18 & Schools team at the National carnival?

Could only be a good thing. Especially as they would have been playing competition matches since early April along side U20's. U21's in the case of Subbies.

As long as they are Under 18 eligible - Young 'club' players can be selected all the way to the National team. As was the case in 2018 when Max Douglas (Manly colts/Waratahs Academy) whom left school young in 2017 and was selected on he 2018 tour of the UK with the Australian Schools & U18s team. Also selected from clubland were Viliami Lea (Reds Academy) and Carlos Tizzano (Force Academy).
 

fkj

Chris McKivat (8)
2019 is going to be an interesting (and hopefully positive) year for club rugby in NSW - particularly Sydney & the Shute Shield, with two major changes on the cards.

Firstly is the decision from Rugby Au to change the junior pathways in the U18s to allow club rugby players (that are under 18 and maybe no longer at school) to be eligible for selection in the Australian Schools & U18s team. Each state will select an U18 Academy side (eg Waratahs Academy) from both schools and clubs and from here the Australian Schools & U18s side will be selected. The NSW Academy for example will be selected from traditional games played between GPS, CHS, CAS, CCC, ISA & AICES as well as games involving NSWJRU (Sydney & Country U18s). This an inclusive step forward and gives the club rugby pathway true relevance and a viable alternative for some players that fall outside of the schools pathway.

Secondly is the new Shute Shield U18 Colts competition which starts this year. This allows for weekly Saturday club rugby competition games for many U18 players that previously did not have this option. Obviously the private schools will continue their comps as per normal but this is more for the Public & Catholic High school players that don't have a school competition option available. Plus is is aligned with the Premiership clubs and played on a Saturday meaning clashes with league on a Sunday are not an issue and giving players the option to play both if they wish. And with this U18 colts contributing to the club championship points it is an incentive for clubs to get out and recruit - hopefully even grow the game in this age group where we have seen participation falling for quite a while?

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Any yet all the coaches and support staff for the Aus team still have to be teachers...sigh, why limit the field of candidates....
 

Wazza2013

Fred Wood (13)
The article is slightly misleading in that $8m is coming from Cumberland Council and $2.74m from the State Government, however the end result is the same; a $10.74m upgrade to Death Valley. Demolition commences 4th February.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...k/news-story/11b3664c2ee1126c5cfaee5c7c03d970



Looking forward to returning to Death Valley and being able to run the pie warmer and the chip fryer at the same time, without causing a blackout in the players change rooms and the PA system
 

fatprop

Jason Little (69)
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2019 is going to be an interesting (and hopefully positive) year for club rugby in NSW - particularly Sydney & the Shute Shield, with two major changes on the cards.

Firstly is the decision from Rugby Au to change the junior pathways in the U18s to allow club rugby players (that are under 18 and maybe no longer at school) to be eligible for selection in the Australian Schools & U18s team. Each state will select an U18 Academy side (eg Waratahs Academy) from both schools and clubs and from here the Australian Schools & U18s side will be selected. The NSW Academy for example will be selected from traditional games played between GPS, CHS, CAS, CCC, ISA & AICES as well as games involving NSWJRU (Sydney & Country U18s). This an inclusive step forward and gives the club rugby pathway true relevance and a viable alternative for some players that fall outside of the schools pathway.

Secondly is the new Shute Shield U18 Colts competition which starts this year. This allows for weekly Saturday club rugby competition games for many U18 players that previously did not have this option. Obviously the private schools will continue their comps as per normal but this is more for the Public & Catholic High school players that don't have a school competition option available. Plus is is aligned with the Premiership clubs and played on a Saturday meaning clashes with league on a Sunday are not an issue and giving players the option to play both if they wish. And with this U18 colts contributing to the club championship points it is an incentive for clubs to get out and recruit - hopefully even grow the game in this age group where we have seen participation falling for quite a while?

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I went through the 18s club after school to rep 18s rugby a thousand years ago.

The issue at that time was games for the 18s rep side, we got a couple for Sydney (vs Country & Brisbane) & one NSW game and they "selected" an Aus team - they just didn't play a game

Is the 18s colts going to be essentially 3rd grade colts?
 

Dave Beat

Paul McLean (56)
I went through the 18s club after school to rep 18s rugby a thousand years ago.

The issue at that time was games for the 18s rep side, we got a couple for Sydney (vs Country & Brisbane) & one NSW game and they "selected" an Aus team - they just didn't play a game

Is the 18s colts going to be essentially 3rd grade colts?

How are clubs going with their u18s?
The opens comp that had 6 teams playing last year - what is happening to that?
 

Blackers13

Syd Malcolm (24)
Paywall, mate. But sounds like good news? Where will you be playing?

This season mostly at Lidcombe Oval with a game at Camden and one at Bankwest Stadium in Parramatta. Next season hopefully a completed new stadium at Granville Park Merrylands which will be renamed New Cumberland Oval. Totally new buildings and new surface, lights etc.
 

WorkingClassRugger

David Codey (61)
This season mostly at Lidcombe Oval with a game at Camden and one at Bankwest Stadium in Parramatta. Next season hopefully a completed new stadium at Granville Park Merrylands which will be renamed New Cumberland Oval. Totally new buildings and new surface, lights etc.


At Wire Lane. I might make my way over for that.
 

WorkingClassRugger

David Codey (61)
How are clubs going with their u18s?
The opens comp that had 6 teams playing last year - what is happening to that?

I went through the 18s club after school to rep 18s rugby a thousand years ago.

The issue at that time was games for the 18s rep side, we got a couple for Sydney (vs Country & Brisbane) & one NSW game and they "selected" an Aus team - they just didn't play a game

Is the 18s colts going to be essentially 3rd grade colts?


I wouldn't seeing the district clubs look to begin to build out there junior arms. Start with this U182 structure and then look to add and U16/17s down in time. Ideally with multiple teams in each age grade. Build complete clubs.
 

Dave Beat

Paul McLean (56)
Points for the Club Championships - how many points do / will the new colts structure receive.
1s =
2s =
3s =
u18s =
 
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