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Super Rugby 2024 General Chat

Ignoto

Greg Davis (50)
“Super Rugby is still good footy. You’ve got the Australians and the Kiwis playing, but they haven’t got the exposure of playing against all the other players from other countries

How did they go for the French though? It was the second most embarrassing thing to happen at last year's world cup (the first being Australia not making out of the pool stages).

Imagine bowing out at your home world cup in the quarters!! (I can see the egg on my face in a few years don't you worry).
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Eh, maybe the Leinsters and Toulouses would go well but they're still dealing with a handful of ANZ players who were good here but suddenly globetrotters over there.

Kerr Barlow, Skelton, Meafou, Arnold, Ahki are now all world beaters but weren't lavished with praise here. Other middle order teams are centered around players like Maddocks, Reece Hewat, Alo-Emile, Newsome etc.

Every time a Kiwi leaves NZ they become the best player in the world in France.
 

Marce

Greg Davis (50)
And we probably thought Super Rugby and URC were pretty close when Munster (in-season) just got over the pre-season Crusaders this year...but that was the 2024 Crusaders.
Even Tahs beat those Crusaders twice lol
 

Strewthcobber

Andrew Slack (58)
How did they go for the French though? It was the second most embarrassing thing to happen at last year's world cup (the first being Australia not making out of the pool stages).

Imagine bowing out at your home world cup in the quarters!! (I can see the egg on my face in a few years don't you worry).
Perhaps many/most French Rugby Union fans would rather watch a competitive Top 14 league and Champions Cup every year, over one or two international games every 4 years
 

Ignoto

Greg Davis (50)
Perhaps many/most French Rugby Union fans would rather watch a competitive Top 14 league and Champions Cup every year, over one or two international games every 4 years
But the point Nonu was making is, the quality of the competition is higher than Super Rugby i.e. has the "best internationals" spread across the teams. But, it doesn't apear to have translated to any meaningful success outside of that competition as those same players especially at a French level don't really perform when required.
 

Strewthcobber

Andrew Slack (58)
But the point Nonu was making is, the quality of the competition is higher than Super Rugby i.e. has the "best internationals" spread across the teams. But, it doesn't apear to have translated to any meaningful success outside of that competition as those same players especially at a French level don't really perform when required.
I understand that. But if your definition of success is only internationals, then I think you are missing his point
 
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Derpus

George Gregan (70)
Eh, maybe the Leinsters and Toulouses would go well but they're still dealing with a handful of ANZ players who were good here but suddenly globetrotters over there.

Kerr Barlow, Skelton, Meafou, Arnold, Ahki are now all world beaters but weren't lavished with praise here. Other middle order teams are centered around players like Maddocks, Reece Hewat, Alo-Emile, Newsome etc.

Every time a Kiwi leaves NZ they become the best player in the world in France.
Is that not just a function of more dispersed talent? 14 teams or whatever versus 5?

I prefer that model personally. A couple of test stars among a team of club level players in a competition with many clubs. It's how most competitions work.
 
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Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Is that not just a function of more dispersed talent? 14 teams or whatever versus 5?

I prefer that model personally. A couple of test stars among a team of club level players in a competition with many clubs. It's how most competitions work.
Yeah for sure if they consolidated the top 14 into 5 teams they'd be incredible. But they're not, so I don't buy this bit about them being super competitive.
 

Marce

Greg Davis (50)
How did they go for the French though? It was the second most embarrassing thing to happen at last year's world cup (the first being Australia not making out of the pool stages).

Imagine bowing out at your home world cup in the quarters!! (I can see the egg on my face in a few years don't you worry).
Most of the Super Rugby players with European heritage end up playing for an European nations if they can't make the ABs or WBs 23 like Mosese Tuipulotu or Fergus Burke. So Super Rugby players play against future 6 Nations players lol
 

Marce

Greg Davis (50)
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Dan54

Tim Horan (67)
Just wondering how the top of table will change between no and finals, or bottom.

Would be kind of good if Rebels and Clan swapped places (or Brumbies/Chiefs), would be good for to have a couple of Aus.NZ QFs? At this time you would get Rebels/Brumbies and Clan/Chiefs, though I would not be at all surprised if Brumbies sneak up a place before then.
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Glen Jackson... former super player and ref, will be the new Fijian Drua head coach. Didn't even realise he went into coaching.
 

elementfreak

Trevor Allan (34)
Glen Jackson... former super player and ref, will be the new Fijian Drua head coach. Didn't even realise he went into coaching.
Yeah, his contract was coming to an end with NZRU right after RWC2019, and he'd had the coaching gig lined up then. He's been coaching them since their inception from memory.
 

Dan54

Tim Horan (67)
"The Blues are poised to make a controversial move to bring All Blacks star Beauden Barrett into their squad for the rest of the 2024 Super Rugby Pacific season."

Thought you had to be on the books by 31 March or thereabouts?

So did I, think the Blues are trying to say he was contracted to NZR then? And similar to players coming in as replacements when not on books before then, Kianu Kereru-Symes being brought into Canes, Pone in Rebels etc haven't Tahs and Force brought in a few to cover injuries?
Not sure anyone will fall for it though.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
So did I, think the Blues are trying to say he was contracted to NZR then? And similar to players coming in as replacements when not on books before then, Kianu Kereru-Symes being brought into Canes, Pone in Rebels etc haven't Tahs and Force brought in a few to cover injuries?
Not sure anyone will fall for it though.

Pone has been contracted with the Rebels all year...
 
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