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The current issue with Stan's coverage in bars/pubs....

Adam84

Mark Loane (55)
It hasn’t been a massive issue up till now since 50% of the Australian games where FTA. However moving forward into the TT only 20% of the games will be FTA it will become more noticeable
 

Braveheart81

James Horwill (77)
Staff member
They avoid it as much as possible, and they almost never get the main tv/audio if they do


That's just rugby in general. I don't think it matters what platform it is on.

There are very few pubs where anything outside of a Bledisloe Test will get priority screening to a standard NRL game.
 

Dctarget

Steve Williams (59)
I'm gonna be out of Hotel Quarantine for the first time on Saturday in Sydney. Surely there'll be a place showing the rugby? What about the pub in Glebe owned by the ex-wallabies?
 

KOB1987

David Codey (61)
I'm gonna be out of Hotel Quarantine for the first time on Saturday in Sydney. Surely there'll be a place showing the rugby? What about the pub in Glebe owned by the ex-wallabies?

I'm sure you'll find one. The Royal Oak in Double Bay is usually good for a game of rugby.
 

RebelYell

Phil Hardcastle (33)
I'm gonna be out of Hotel Quarantine for the first time on Saturday in Sydney. Surely there'll be a place showing the rugby? What about the pub in Glebe owned by the ex-wallabies?


There will be plenty mate. I used to watch a lot of Rugby at the Toxteth in Glebe when I lived in Sydney. Any of Bill Young's pubs will show (Bird in the hand in Glebe)
 

The Honey Badger

Jim Lenehan (48)
My understanding is TAB have the control as what can be broadcast in the TAB pubs (which is alot of the big - "sports" pub).

They dont want screens taken away from racing and other high profile betting sports.


Stan need to do their work to get a commercial product for pubs -

They should at the very least be able to broadcast the FTA product on GEM

Definitely - something needs to be done come Wallaby time.
 

The Honey Badger

Jim Lenehan (48)
I'm gonna be out of Hotel Quarantine for the first time on Saturday in Sydney. Surely there'll be a place showing the rugby? What about the pub in Glebe owned by the ex-wallabies?

Take your phone or laptop for a backup - I havent seen any Rugby on screens in pubs anywhere.
 

Zero_Cool

Arch Winning (36)
Wallabies will all be on FTA. Like I said it's not THAT much of an issue. Maybe for SR:TT where we have 5 games and only 1 of those being on FTA then it gets a little more difficult.

But the issue isn't a Stan one, this is a Foxtel/News Corp issue, as they are the ones blocking it, I'm pretty sure Nine/Stan had agreed to basically let TAB put the games on for basically free, but Foxtel like an abusive jealous ex just want to hurt Rugby Australia as much as they can. Honestly, the truth is unless Foxtel are willing to relent there is nothing really Stan can do as the agreements in place for the TAB pubs/clubs are all pretty much exclusive deals that prevent them from being allowed to do a deal with Stan. Short of encouraging these pubs/clubs from violating their contract or perhaps finding a way around their contract (or challenging it in court) there isn't anything they can do, it's up to the Pubs/Clubs if the agreement with TAB is worth it -- it is, or if having the Rugby is worth it -- it won't be.

If you don't like it, tell your pubs/clubs but honestly, sadly there will be little to nothing they can do short of violating their agreement with TAB.
 

Bandar

Tom Lawton (22)
That's not true.

Some venues have a number of screens contracted to TAB but not all and TAB has nothing to do with Foxtel. TAB have started some new sports channels but only have rights to American sport.

Yes Stan did a deal with the TAB (Sky Sports) to get it into the pubs & clubs but Peter V'Landays, in his role with Racing NSW (a bit of a conflict of interest) pressured them to back out.

The reason the pubs & clubs always have Foxtel showing is they pay a shitload to have it and it's much easier to manage that having to load an app when a match is starting.

Stan don't have a product to sell to pubs & clubs as they have only recently started showing sport and really only have rugby. If they start selling to pubs & clubs they would be in breech of their agreements with the movie studios. The standard Stan agreement includes a clause saying you can't show their IP in public (just the same as Foxtel does with a private connection) - If anyone is showing it they are in breech of their agreement (I don't think Stan are too worried just for the sport)
 

Braveheart81

James Horwill (77)
Staff member
Stan don't have a product to sell to pubs & clubs as they have only recently started showing sport and really only have rugby. If they start selling to pubs & clubs they would be in breech of their agreements with the movie studios. The standard Stan agreement includes a clause saying you can't show their IP in public (just the same as Foxtel does with a private connection) - If anyone is showing it they are in breech of their agreement (I don't think Stan are too worried just for the sport)


At this stage, Stan needs to create a standalone sport product to be able to have something to sell to pubs for precisely the reason you've mentioned.
 

Runner

Nev Cottrell (35)
I think we can agree its been a resounding success so far with Stan - i've been blown away by their coverage and the available viewing content they've secured so far.

The one big hole in the shift from Faux though, is rugby missing from TV screens in pubs and bars across the country.

What's the go? Why is there such an issue with pubs paying 3 schooners worth of beer sold in a month, to get the rugby up on TV screens in the pubs?

A resounding success I think not. Not a deep analysis I know but most of my 20 mates who watched rugby on Foxtel and still have Fox have not purchased Stan and have moved to watch the NRL. Same at my work place no one has watched a game this year.
Now for these guys who have watch and played for 30 years also with many other issues with RA has been the final straw.
 

dru

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
A resounding success I think not. Not a deep analysis I know but most of my 20 mates who watched rugby on Foxtel and still have Fox have not purchased Stan and have moved to watch the NRL. Same at my work place no one has watched a game this year.
Now for these guys who have watch and played for 30 years also with many other issues with RA has been the final straw.

"Success" is to be judged by naval gazing? Plenty of us have had troubles with RA, in fact few haven't. But it is a much better prospect today than much of those 30 years. Not that there isn't plenty to do.

Broadcast success is judged primarily by the broadcast figures which have been huge improvement.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Simon Poidevin (60)
A resounding success I think not. Not a deep analysis I know but most of my 20 mates who watched rugby on Foxtel and still have Fox have not purchased Stan and have moved to watch the NRL. Same at my work place no one has watched a game this year.
Now for these guys who have watch and played for 30 years also with many other issues with RA has been the final straw.

So neither you or your mates could figure out how to work the remote and watch the Saturday FTA game on Gem?
 
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