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Wallabies 2023

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
Itoje is probably the most dynamic lock in World Rugby. If you can't take advantage of his smaller size and bulk (which is difficult because he's very good) then he's almost certainly a winning selection for England.

He can play 6 but you lose out on much of his upside there because he doesn't have that same advantage in terms of his skills relative to other 6s compared to other locks.
 

Drew

Bob Davidson (42)
I’d image they’d look at Holloway as a bench option lock/6,8. Or a starting lock who could move to 6. Personally I like the first option as he can then be used as tactical or injury replacement rather than having a specialist lock on the bench.
Other posters are correct that at the beginning of his career he showed glimpses of what he could be capable of, but he would drift in and out of matches. I think the move to lock made him focus on work rate more than skill. So now he’s a skilful player but with a higher work rate.
You’d hope he’d take his form and apply it to whatever position he’s given
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
This is probably the best run he's had without injury for a long time too.

I really think it's a case of lock being the position where he brings more upside relative to his alternatives vs what he brings in the backrow.

He'd make a good bench option if McReight was the bench backrower you're looking to carry.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I'm less convinced on this one because I think the Brumbies mix up how their 6 and 8 play versus a lot of other teams.

I could definitely pick Valetini and Wilson in the same backrow but currently they are both playing what the 8 role is for the Wallabies. Out of the two of them I'd probably pick Wilson at 6 and Valetini at 8.

Yep, Rennie plays his 6 and 8 in reverse as to what the Brumbies do, with the 6 playing wide in the formation... which really didn't work when they played Samu at 8 in Bled 1 in 2020, and then Valetini at 6 for the French series...

I expect Valetini to be locked in at 8 with Leota or Wilson at 6.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Jed Holloway is 196cm... plenty tall for a lock.

The French team that made the RWC final in 2011 possessing a strong set piece had locks that were only 195/197cm tall.
 

Drew

Bob Davidson (42)
This is probably the best run he's had without injury for a long time too.

I really think it's a case of lock being the position where he brings more upside relative to his alternatives vs what he brings in the backrow.

He'd make a good bench option if McReight was the bench backrower you're looking to carry.
I agree with that. It would depend on the sub split I guess, if it’s 6/2 you have the luxury of picking more specialists on the bench. 5/3 would require a bit more adaptability, which might help him. He’s not taking a starting spot from Valetini, Leota, Swinton, et al. But I see him doing a better job replacing them than Philip, Rhoda, etc.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
I think Holloway's form this season warrants inclusion in the match day 23, covering lock/blindside/eight. He's stepped up several gears for mine and has been excellent in contact, which is what you want from your forwards.
 

Joe Blow

Peter Sullivan (51)
Holloway is having an outstanding year but I just cannot see where he fits in at either lock or in the back row. We have better specialist options in both with excellent cover for the bench. He would not let us down but it wouldn’t make sense looking ahead to the RWC and from where Rennie has already taken the Wallabies.
 

KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)
Holloway is having an outstanding year but I just cannot see where he fits in at either lock or in the back row. We have better specialist options in both with excellent cover for the bench. He would not let us down but it wouldn’t make sense looking ahead to the RWC and from where Rennie has already taken the Wallabies.
Holloway is a perfect RWC squaddie
 

LeCheese

Peter Johnson (47)

KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)
If there is room for him. Leota would fill that spot ATM and I would say that Uru would also give it a run. I guess LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) is off so that may open up opportunity for a 5/6.
That’s true - those two have incumbency/experience on their side however Jed is ahead of both purely on current form. There is room for 2 such players in a RWC squad, He definitely needs to be in the calculations.
 
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