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Australian Rugby / RA

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Add test matches on top of that.............

But you know, commentators don’t clock on and off at the start and end of a match - there’s other work to be done during the week.
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
You are forgetting that they need Foxtel this year still. Currently they aren’t receiving a cent from them. When the season can get back up and running they will need some sort of relationship to recoup some of that money until years end. There is also the possibility they need them for the next broadcast deal. They are between a rock and a hard place.

Not sure how this important aspect to the whole TV rights saga is missed by some posters.

Also, it is reported that a deal was imminent when the Covid-19 pandemic put a halt to all rugby activity. RA now are in much the same boat as any of the SANZAAR members who might have or not put in place a broadcasting deal. I cannot imagine that any of the deals so far penned won't be up for major review and amendment once rugby gets underway again, in whatever format.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
Let's look at the club issue. Clubs are the heart of our game, and what in many ways makes it great. Clearly there is a growing disconnect between the club game and the professional game and numbers are falling.
Maybe that's because they are fundamentally in competition with each other - for players, for sponsors, for supporters?

These guys should have a few ideas how to solve that and I'd genuinely love to hear them. Too often what I do hear is grumblings about the professional game that are never going away - too many rep commitments and training sessions, too much focus on high performance, too little time to spend at club training etc etc etc.
As above.


The genie is not going back in the bottle on many of these things. So how do we grow our clubs, and get that connection back again? It can't be about money, because money has never really had much to do with it. It's Mabo, it's the vibe, it's sinking beers on the hill on a Saturday afternoon.
You show me a vibrant club, with good crowds sinking beers on the hill on a Saturday afternoon, and I will show you a club with an adequate bank balance, sponsors, volunteers, etc etc. It is a bit chicken and eggish. But is is about money.

I don't really know the point of this post, but it's the complete lack of any ideas on this from people like Farr-Jones that bugs the shit out of me.


It doesn't bug me in the slightest, because I do not take these narcissists seriously. Good on the field, no doubt. But alarmingly short on practical ideas. Maybe that is because there are no quick fixes. Just a whole lot of rugby supporters pitching in and doing what we can to support the game at all levels, being prepared to put our money where our mouth is, will to sponsor our clubs, and not complaining when we have to pay to watch games on the box.


Money makes the world go around. Rugby is part of the world. Ergo.....
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)

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Jim Lenehan (48)
To be honest I don’t think any club should receive a cent from the governing body. They should be run off the smell of an oily rag with the only thing the governing body should be doing is making sure they have adequate coaching, equipment and facilities to work with. Local governments and communities should be where most of the funds come from.

I don’t know much about other sports, but do cricket, basketball, rugby league, soccer etc. get anything from their governing body? Or is this something we have created in an angry rhetoric towards the game here and it’s failings.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
I wasn't even thinking about funding. I was thinking about former captains/Wallabies who did want to make a change, could become an ambassador at clubs. So Mortlock turns up at West Harbour etc

Mate, if they wanted to, they could do a lot.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
LOL. They don't mean those clubs. They mean Randwick and Sydney Uni and maybe a couple of others.

Okay, let them put their hands into their own well supplied pockets. Nobody is stopping them, as far as I know. Don't forget the Mosman Whales. They must have a bright future, with all those famous rugby identities in their neighbourhood.
 

Lindommer

Steve Williams (59)
Staff member
....people like Farr-Jones that bugs the shit out of me.

Farr-Jones, a shire boy who went to Newington and then joined that well-known district club, Sydney University. Similar to Waugh, played for Narrabeen Juniors before chooffing off to Shore and ending up at Sydney University Football Club. Far too many talented juniors/schoolboys get grabbed by Sydney Uni, Randwick, Easts and/or Eastwood, HTF do these blokes expect grassroots rugby to survive and, hopefully, prosper if the cream ends up at the usual clubs?
 

Jimmy_Crouch

Ken Catchpole (46)
Far-Jones, a shire boy who went to Newington and then joined that well-known district club, Sydney University. Similar to Waugh, played for Narrabeen Juniors before chuffing off to Shore and ending up at Sydney University Football Club. Far too many talented juniors/schoolboys get grabbed by Sydney Uni, Randwick, East and/or Eastwood, HTF do these blokes expect grassroots rugby to survive and, hopefully, prosper if the cream ends up at the usual clubs?

I'm with the anyone but uni crowd but that is a bad example. Both of those blokes went on to complete degrees at that University. Inherently University clubs recruit at higher ages than most others.
 

The Honey Badger

Jim Lenehan (48)
Wow, the tin foil hat shop must have done a roaring trade in the past 24 hours if this thread is any indication.

I have no idea of Kearns' financial arrangements, but I don't think a three hour stint at one super game a week for 18 weeks, plus an hour or two on the Fox rugby show a week is his major source of income. I could be wrong, but I think he has a real job and commentary is a sideline.

The Tin Foil Hat, now thats a throw back to Hugh Jase.
A bit like Hand Sanitiser and toilet paper. Cant buy them anywhere.


But I think you know what I was really getting at when I was referring to being on Rupert's Payroll.
 

Dismal Pillock

Simon Poidevin (60)
I'm surprised no-ones has asked Peter Wiggs to save RA after all he just sold his North Shore place for $21 million https://www.domain.com.au/news/rugb...55poF55F8LE0XC7NL6ebb62nLVsZ6PwKiqzqqypD3gRq4

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LOL, not surprised he sold it. What a shitty view. That big stupid bridge in the middle there is completely obscuring his view of the horizon.
 

Lindommer

Steve Williams (59)
Staff member
I'm with the anyone but uni crowd but that is a bad example. Both of those blokes went on to complete degrees at that university.

And so did my son. However, he had the humility to go back to his junior club after attending a similar school instead of the easy way out and joining Sydney Uni. Both of these Oz Captains played their junior rugby at other Sydney clubs. The lack of depth at the non-fancied clubs is killing rugby in Sydney; I gather it's somewhat similar in Brisbane.
 
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