Hooper stats looking good
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Call me crazy...
6. Pocock
7. Gill
8. Horwill
11. Hooper
I think Horwill would be a fantastic n 8. He is without a doubt a solid leader, and puts in a mountain of work every game. He is a fairly good ball runner aswell. I think the bonus he would bring to the game, playing a little looser than he does now, is found in the mental tenacity he brings to a side.
Gill is by far the best future prospect for 7. He is a awesome pilferer and slows down every play. He is just gifted in that position- and will eventually grow to be a very large body in the scrum. He can do this job decently well, and can be great. However, by playing Gill at 7, you allow Pocock to be a free agent and play to his strengths.
I think pocock would be a better elsome than elsome ever was. By allowing Pocock to stand a little bit back, in general play, I think that this would force opposing teams to play tight, to avoid risky turnovers, off the second reciever being in poeys sight. You force the opposition into playing tight, crash tackle rugby, and if you have a couple of locks like timani,douglas, fardy or neville, we with this breakdown battle if Horwill is in 8. Bam, IMO, could be an awesome blind side flanker.
However- this is where the crazy comes in.... hold on to your skirts girls. Teach wonky-eyed Hoops to play 11. By playing him on this side of the scrum, he would be the perfect 11. No one could get though. No one would be faster than him. Look at his sprinting times. In dire situations, he would be the perfect chaser, as would could run down and turnover every fuciking thing. I do not know if he can catch- but fuck it give him a run at wing. If only he could distribute- he would be the perfect inside centre.
And while I am at it- the wobs should play Godwin - the young force flyhalf on the bench.
6. Pocock
7. Gill
8. Horwill
11. Hooper
I think Horwill would be a fantastic n 8. He is without a doubt a solid leader, and puts in a mountain of work every game. He is a fairly good ball runner aswell. I think the bonus he would bring to the game, playing a little looser than he does now, is found in the mental tenacity he brings to a side.
Gill is by far the best future prospect for 7. He is a awesome pilferer and slows down every play. He is just gifted in that position- and will eventually grow to be a very large body in the scrum. He can do this job decently well, and can be great. However, by playing Gill at 7, you allow Pocock to be a free agent and play to his strengths.
I think pocock would be a better elsome than elsome ever was. By allowing Pocock to stand a little bit back, in general play, I think that this would force opposing teams to play tight, to avoid risky turnovers, off the second reciever being in poeys sight. You force the opposition into playing tight, crash tackle rugby, and if you have a couple of locks like timani,douglas, fardy or neville, we with this breakdown battle if Horwill is in 8. Bam, IMO, could be an awesome blind side flanker.
However- this is where the crazy comes in.... hold on to your skirts girls. Teach wonky-eyed Hoops to play 11. By playing him on this side of the scrum, he would be the perfect 11. No one could get though. No one would be faster than him. Look at his sprinting times. In dire situations, he would be the perfect chaser, as would could run down and turnover every fuciking thing. I do not know if he can catch- but fuck it give him a run at wing. If only he could distribute- he would be the perfect inside centre.
And while I am at it- the wobs should play Godwin - the young force flyhalf on the bench.
You're crazy.
rugbysmartarse
Alan Cameron (40)
Liam Gill: The David Croft of his decade
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tranquility
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Please. I want this quote remembered. Can you put it as your signature and leave it there?
USARugger
John Thornett (49)
If Hooper was 2 inches taller he could become a world class 6 
Sadly though all the people lining him up as a theoretical #6 are forgetting that he hasn't even broken 6'0" and much more importantly is a featherweight compared to other international blindsides. It's heartbreaking because with the way he carries the ball and his work rate coupled with the mongrel he brings to the GR&G jersey he would be an incredible 6 if biology were to be so kind.
Sadly though all the people lining him up as a theoretical #6 are forgetting that he hasn't even broken 6'0" and much more importantly is a featherweight compared to other international blindsides. It's heartbreaking because with the way he carries the ball and his work rate coupled with the mongrel he brings to the GR&G jersey he would be an incredible 6 if biology were to be so kind.
USARugger
John Thornett (49)
We could only be so lucky...
He has some extraordinary stats in terms of missed-tackles at Wallaby level. Think he went through a Spring Tour and also the RWC without missing a tackle.
Dave Beat
Paul McLean (56)
Smith = Hooper / Waugh / Pockock (combined), he also played games @ 6 & 8. (I havent watch Gill enough)
DPK
Peter Sullivan (51)
Care to explain a little further FP? I was going by skillset too.
DPK
Peter Sullivan (51)
I thought Pocock = Smith for his on-ball pilfering skill, Hooper like Waugh for his hard nosed determination and Gill for his fierce turnover skill.
Funny how they've aligned with the right provinces for this analogy for next S15 season.
In reality they're all different to the players we've compared them to. Hooper is more dynamic than Waugh ever was but not as physical at this stage. Pocock doesn't have Smith's ability to transcend positions.
Gill is, for mine, still unrealised potential. Some physical development left to grow and some weathering to get, but an exciting prospect.
Funny how they've aligned with the right provinces for this analogy for next S15 season.
In reality they're all different to the players we've compared them to. Hooper is more dynamic than Waugh ever was but not as physical at this stage. Pocock doesn't have Smith's ability to transcend positions.
Gill is, for mine, still unrealised potential. Some physical development left to grow and some weathering to get, but an exciting prospect.
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What2040
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Agree about his potential - but the problems Gill faces is that the blokes above him are young themselves - however injuries play a large part in rugby - Example: Hooper would not have been able to show his wares on the big stage if Pocock hadn't been injured. Now there is a real contest at 7 between Hooper and Poey with Gill looming - the competition is great for Aussie rugby, just wish we had greater competition for all spots across the park
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AlexH
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Higginbotham played a much tighter game for the Reds in the 2012 rugby season but he has gone missing in The Rugby Championship so far.
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Jiggles
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I don't think any of the current 7s are actually anything like Waugh. Waugh just tried to do what Smith did but not as well, and when he slowed down he tried to play the link man but he didn't have the smarts of the vision.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
I think what Waugh had is best summed up by this quote from Bruce Ross:
What he gave away in skill to smith he made up with a ferocity not seen in the aussie forwards since the departure of vickerman.
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