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Reds v Brumbies - RD10 2013

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Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
From the king of coy. Yeah mate you may just be reading a bit much into it.

Ha! I very much doubt it considering it's the central theme (Brumbies' negative play v Reds' positive play) of Link's complaints since last night..........

Anyways, hopefully this is the last of it....... but I now look forward to seeing what kind of PR campaign he's going to launch against the Blues this week.
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
No need to act so coy, the subtext is pretty clear in the context of Link's rant...

If you are paranoid I guess.

Good game and a good atmosphere.

I couldn't believe the marketing the Reds had up on the big screen "now its personal". Sorry but it is never personal as I have always been taught that this great game is always bigger than that. To me that is just tempting spite which is ordinary.

Good thing the fans in general are bigger than that. We sat in amongst a group of both Reds and Brumbies fans, some were strangers to us. We cheered we laughed we were loud and passionate for our teams but at the end of the game we all shook hands before going our own ways.

As for the result shit happens but both sides had their opportunities and both didn't grab them well enough when on offer. All this looking for somebody to blame is just petty.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
As you should be.

If course by not answering my question, you have answered very clearly.

Was I happy with the Brumbies' tactics?

Sure, it nearly won them the game. Unfortunately they couldn't get much ball in the last 20 minutes, or rather more importantly they were playing the game in their own 5m for much of it.
 

Scoey

Tony Shaw (54)
Ha! I very much doubt it considering it's the central theme of Link's complaints since last night....

Sorry? Link has been complaining about Mogg being too good? Mogg kicking a lot? Ohhh yeah, now I get it, no you're not reading to much into it after all. :confused:
 

Scoey

Tony Shaw (54)
You accused Link of being petty for his dig at Mogg.
All he said about Mogg was that he made a fantastic break; stated that he kicks a lot; said he is a good runner of the ball and that more of that would be great for the game.

A reasonable person would take that as a big wrap for Mogg but you claimed there was some subtext to his statement that demonstrated that you weren't reading to much into the comment and it was in fact a petty dig at Mogg as that was the central theme to Links complaints since last night.

Mogg's undoubted abilities, nor his kicking game, have never really even featured in Links complaints since last night.

I'm not surprised you're finding this confusing. Perhaps, you need to pack up your toys and move on.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
You accused Link of being petty for his dig at Mogg.
All he said about Mogg was that he made a fantastic break; stated that he kicks a lot; said he is a good runner of the ball and that more of that would be great for the game.

A reasonable person would take that as a big wrap for Mogg but you claimed there was some subtext to his statement that demonstrated that you weren't reading to much into the comment and it was in fact a petty dig at Mogg as that was the central theme to Links complaints since last night.

Mogg's undoubted abilities, nor his kicking game, have never really even featured in Links complaints since last night.

I'm not surprised you're finding this confusing. Perhaps, you need to pack up your toys and move on.

OK, there has obviously been a breakdown in communication here.

You might need to go back and have another read through.........
 

ChargerWA

Mark Loane (55)
These are not the droids you are looking for!

Anyway, I do think that Link has carried on to try and plant the seed that the Brumbies are cynical. Never know when that perception might be handy in the future, like finals time.
 

Scoey

Tony Shaw (54)
OK, there has obviously been a breakdown in communication here.

You might need to go back and have another read through...
Yeah I did when I was compiling that reply. I spelled out my side. You could've pointed out my error but didn't. Not that unexpected really.
This is ridiculous. Time to rule 10 (or whatever the rule is) this shit and move on.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Sure, but briefly the "central themes" I was talking about clearly referred to Link's comments about the Brumbies' supposed negative kicking for territory game vs that of the Reds' postive ball in hand running game........

The comments on Mogg had a clear barb in there in his criticism of the Brumbies' playing style.

Link was obviously being pretty faecetious which is part of his style.........

Anyways, moving on.
 
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tranquility

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It doesn't get much better than that.

Although, it was terribly frustrating that the Reds couldn't finish. It could have been a different game, had Davies and / or Kev not knocked on with the line beckoning in the first half.

As mentioned the ref lost control. I thought the Brumbies were outstanding, and better than I thought they were going to be. Although I do think they played some cynical rugby at times; and I thought George Smith was one of the worst culprits, especially coming in through the side.

Mogg is electric.

To be honest it was very disappointing to lose that match. Although it would have reinvigorated some old rugby hearts, and won some new ones.
 

Set piece magic

John Solomon (38)
With the Brumbies given a final warning after 65', every ensuring offence within 5m of their goal line simply has to be a yellow card.

So when Daley goes over with a double penalty advantage two minutes later (i.e. the ref had a penalty advantage for slowing it down and a NEW penalty advantage for slowing it down one phase later), the TMO not only calls against Daley, but the ref just doesn't card the two offending players? Why not??

In fact, Horwill even goes and talks to him WHILST the TMO is making his decision and says, 'that's three in a row, it has to be yellow', and the ref agrees.

At the very, very, very least he has to card one of them. Did he just forget to?

The last time I saw someone forget to card someone was in the 2006 FIFA world cup, whereby Graham Poll simply forgot to give a Red at a second yellow. He retired immediately.

It's an A grade error.

Jackson finally issues a yellow in the 68th and the Reds go for the lineout again. This time a player doesn't roll away two phases later. It again, HAS to be a yellow card. Not rolling away = slowing the ball down = cynical infringement 5m out = yellow card.

Then in the 74th minute, 2m out and the Brumbies go off their feet and hands in the ruck AND coming in from the side. It has to be yellow again. (at this point it should be 15 v 11).

To make matters worse, in the NEXT phase, 13 White rushes up offside putting pressure on Ioane and making him drop it and bomb a try. It's a penalty try AND a yellow card. (15 v 10)
 

Set piece magic

John Solomon (38)
You've missed the point entirely, I am looking at the specific yellow card error's he made. I think he got all the scrum penalties that went the Reds way wrong too, but the fact is you have to yellow card for these offences
 

ChargerWA

Mark Loane (55)
You are assuming that somewhere in the laws it says once a ref has warned a team he must yellow card the next infringement.

I agree he was too lenient, but he is hardly alone in that department. It happens more often than not that a ref who has warned a team won't immediately YC the next infringement.

It is at the refs discretion.
 

Ghibli

Ted Thorn (20)
i think slim's point was what is the purpose of continuing to give interviews attacking an opposition team - both Link and Horwill said their piece after the match (in my humble opinion, showing poor form - next we'll be chasing the ref after the penalties like the mungos).
All this is only prepetuating the negativity it supposed to condemn.
The Brumbies also had dubious decisions against them last night (e.g. can anyone say they saw Gill grounding the ball?), but that is history.
all wingeing in the world won't change the result, and Link should be experienced enough to understand that.
 
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