James Horwill cited for stamping

[Cardiffblue]

Bleeding obvious?

Tin foil?

If you can, just imagine the guy stamping had been wearing red not yellow

 

[badabing59]

Can we expect the same degree of clear sighted impartiality from next week's ref, or is the fix really on?

Only if your cheque clears in time

 

[Paradox]

Horwill was bloody lucky.

 

[Slim 293]

If you can, just imagine the guy stamping had been wearing red not yellow

No one was wearing yellow..........

Case closed.

 

[badabing59]

here we go:

Mark Souster ‏@SousterRugby 20m
I can feel a John McEnroe moment coming on. Horwill innocent? Seriously? Stinks of 05 Mealamu and umaga and 09 burger in SH stitch up.

 

[ChargerWA]

Bollocks. this is not a court of law, thank god. or do you think he should have been arrested on the spot? On that argument no one would ever be suspended. Video evidence alone cannot meet the reasonable doubt standard of the court.

Bullshit excuses good enough for judiciary here it seems

Sorry, I should have clarified......in an Australian court of law.....

We have a robust judicial process, which means we let lots of bad guys go to justify not wrongly convicting innocent ones.

It sucks, but what ya gonna do.

 

[ACT Crusader]

Lucky break for the Wallabies. The judicial system is a lottery and that could easily have gone the other way and been a lengthy ban.

Why is it a lottery? These things always turn on the facts of the individual incident, not trial by video alone.

It's impossible for those not in the hearing or involved preparing the submissions to make a call if this is right or wrong - or any judicial ruling for that matter.

 

[badabing59]

And:

Stephen Jones ‏@stephenjones9 1m
Good luck to James Horwill, seems decent bloke and player .. But he has no right to appear on a rugby field in the rest of the Test series.

 

[Zander]

Took his time!

 

[badabing59]

And to complete the trifecta;

Brian Moore ‏@brianmoore666 3s
Horwill - to the judicial officer, Nigel Hampton, who ruled Horwill was trying to regain his feet, not stamp - You are a fucking idiot.

 

[Cardiffblue]

Sorry, I should have clarified..in an Australian court of law...

We have a robust judicial process, which means we let lots of bad guys go to justify not wrongly convicting innocent ones.

It sucks, but what ya gonna do.

win next weekend

 

[Bullrush]

Why is it a lottery? These things always turn on the facts of the individual incident, not trial by video alone.

It's impossible for those not in the hearing or involved preparing the submissions to make a call if this is right or wrong - or any judicial ruling for that matter.

It's a lottery because Horwill gets off scot-free while this pretty similar incident got 3 weeks


http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=WVDq8gaVTOo&desktop_uri=/watch?v=WVDq8gaVTOo

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Why is it a lottery? These things always turn on the facts of the individual incident, not trial by video alone.

It's impossible for those not in the hearing or involved preparing the submissions to make a call if this is right or wrong - or any judicial ruling for that matter.

I think the reason we call the rugby judiciary a lottery is mostly because of the penalties that get handed out that seem out of proportion with the incidents. I've seen citings end up in a bloke getting four weeks for actions that barely warranted a card and other times a bloke has half killed someone (figuratively) and got a week. There isn't a lot of transparency from a fans point of view either. Now there is no real obligation for there to be, but it's something that leaves most of us scratching our heads.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Well. Well. Well. Bulldust. That was a stomp. I have played rugby. I am not a lawyer. I know what happens on a rugby field. Forwards are not as stupid as lawyers seem to accept they are, Perhaps if this was done in my day Horwill would have escaped without penalty but certainly not nowdays.

The end justifies the means. Horwill should be stood down and have the Captaincy stripped from him by Dingo. That was disgraceful conduct and completely unbecoming of a Captain.

Australian Rugby have now lost any ability to claim any moral high ground over acts of thuggery by the Darkness such as the Richard Loe nasal reconstructive surgery on Paul Carozza.

We have joined them. This act of thuggery was done by the Captain of the Men in Gold, who does not have the balls to admit what he did was wrong. I am ashamed.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

HJ, let's go over the top here. It's one incident and not an indictment of Australian rugby. There have been very of these types of incidents in our rugby history.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

It was our Captain that perpetuated this act of thuggery. No better than Paul Gallen in the Greco-Roman Rugby match the other night.

If he escaped on a point of law that somehow convinced a judicial officer that there was no intent, then good on him.

It was rubbish and by fighting it he has cheapened the position of the Wallabies Captain. The video is conclusive. The apologists are wrong. In my day we may have got away with acts like this, but when presented with evidence, we owned up and took our medicine.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

I'm not saying he shouldn't have been rubbed out and that yes, as captain, he shouldn't have done it. But this is not some systemic issue with Australian rugby. It's a single incident where the judiciary appears to have got it wrong.

 

[ChargerWA]

In my day we may have got away with acts like this, but when presented with evidence, we owned up and took our medicine.

Did you have to walk to school in the snow as well? I bet both ways was uphill too.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

It is clear that our Captain did an act that we do not condone.

Our Captain has then gone to judiciary and used bulldust weasel words to avoid being accountable for his actions. He has escaped punishment for his actions on the basis of weasel words.

Hoorah --- he got off. He has done an underarm bowl. It does not make what he did right even if some lawyer thinks it is right.

Our Captain should be above this sort of thuggery.

I don't care if it costs us the second test, but Horwill should be penalised for his thuggery by the ARU if the judiciary are not prepared to act. Failure to do so makes us no better than the Darkness or the Saffers.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Did you have to walk to school in the snow as well? I bet both ways was uphill too.

Barefoot, 5 miles and we made our own lunch.