Australia v British & Irish Lions, 3rd Test (Sydney)

[Lindommer]

(Link) has tried a bit of brinkmanship by announcing his departure from the Reds and they might resent that. In any case I hope he or Cheika gets the job. I think Cheika might be the answer to the three amigos and he is a Waratah.

Not even Eddie "mediatart" Jones could come up with that one: Cheika->Wallabies, McKenzie->Tahs.

 

[redstragic]

I had thought of sending Bill Pulver an email, suggesting you and The Brown Hornet go 5 x 3 min rounds (with gloves) in the centre of the field as part of the pre-match entertainment at the upcoming BC match!

This only works if they were both forwards in their playing days. No one wants see former backs hitting each other with their handbags.

 

[Forcefield]

I trust his deep analysis

Where is Freud when you need him?

 

[Lindommer]

That was my feeling too. It was called prior to the game by a few pundits - if you become the team that Poite feels is the weaker scrum, you'll struggle to get anywhere, even if you manage to improve things, like they seemed to do after Kepu came on. But we were just drilled, and what else could Poite do? Not sure I want to watch the replay to analyse it any further either! Scrum got owned, and we just have to suck it up.

Haven't watched the replay yet (don't have any whisky at my place, the other stuff's not strong enough!) but on the big screen the scrum which was the cause of Alexander's demise it looked suspiciously like Corbisiero rolled in his left shoulder and went down. Not being an exponent of the dark arts I could be wrong.

You gotta feel sorry for Ben A, plugging along quite well at LHP for the Ponies and then called up at THP for the biggest series of his career, against some bloody mean 1s at that. We really need some expert tuition for front rowers in this country, dare I say a "scrum school".

 

[Beefcake]

Seems Kurtley and JOC (James O'Connor) are up for crucifixion for the Lions loss...

For sake of creativity and a true blue 'made in Aus' with a clean slate, Ewen MacKenzie please step up to the poisoned chalice that is the Wobblies... For the sake of Aus rugby do not give it JWhite who masterminded the aerial bombing assault of the 2007... what a dour affair that was the WC...

 

[Bruwheresmycar]

Speaking of laws of the game. I just saw a replay of Beal tipping the ball back into the field of play but the ball was past the touch line. I thought there was plane of touch?

If the ball crosses the plane of touch. It becomes dead when it touches something beyond the plane of touch. (this can be anything from; the ground, a player standing beyond the line, or a tree)

If Beale was inside the field when he hit the ball. Then the ball has not touched something beyond the plane of touch and hence is not dead.

I can't remember this incident but from your description I assume he was in the field of play. So "play on".

 

[Dan54]

If you look at the pic Sully took yesterday, you will see one big difference, and one thing that tends to Alexander in trouble, is that the Filth's prop is binding on jersey and not on LHP's arm.

 

[biggsy]

nothing to say really. Had a feeling this would happen,,

 

[Sully]

I know a few of us repeat ourselves a bit over the years and now is my turn. We need to import a heap of scrum knowledge. The guys who are trying to reach our guys weren't that good themselves. Except for link. He was awesome.

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[Slim 293]

For the sake of Aus rugby do not give it JWhite who masterminded the aerial bombing assault of the 2007. what a dour affair that was the WC.

Yeah, look at all those dour faces.........

 

[Blue]

This in spades. Sitting behind the posts at one end gave an interesting view of the kicking game all night. Ours was utterly appalling. Beale and O'Connor, in particular, seem to hack at the ball, and kicks gained little ground, and often went straight to the player, or meaninglessly down the centre of the field. Halfpenny played a very good positional game, but they hardly tested him. Genia was poor in this regard also.

I seriously question the commitment and professionalism of players who get seen at maccas at 4 in the morning and proceed to deliver a pile of shit in what is one of their core duties.

As for Genia it was more the exception than the rule but he was under piles of pressure at the base. Off night for him with the boot though and a bad time to have it with the other two arsing it.

 

[Blue]

Oh sorry Matt Burke, but I for one believe that the ref should adjudicate on every single scrum (in fact every single play) on its merits and not on some preconceived idea of what is going on. If he can't then he should not be a professional referee!

The Lions rightly won penalties in the scrum for wallaby infringements but when the Lions made similar infringements (ie when Corbisero couldn't get under Kepu he simply folded) then Poite gave them a reset instead of penalising. On this basis alone he should not be a paid referee!

You cannot deny that teams play the refs and the team that gets scrum ascendancy early one almost always gets the Lions share of penalties.

I am not arguing if this is right or wrong I was merely stating what I see just about every week and what was evident in this match.

 

[Blue]

Yeah, look at all those dour faces...

Yeah fuckit who wants to win ugly?


But the next Aus coach must be an Aussie. The game needs to remove this constant fucking coach bleating, a large part of which is attributed to the nationality of the current coach. Aussies simply do not like a foreigner when he is losing. A local bloke will get a lot more slack. White started in the gutter so it has been easy. Deans had to win 80% or he was fucked.

It can only be Link.

 

[Beefcake]

Yeah, look at all those dour faces...

And did White keep his job.... thats what i thought.... (2007 WC winners for all the wrong reasons - p.s.s. Was White merely the puppet of a certain ex-wobblies coach, perhaps) interesting he's also at the brumbies... Coincidental? Think not

 

[Slim 293]

I believe Link is the prime candidate to take over, but I do like a lot of the qualities that White has brought to the Brumbies that has been missing from Australian rugby for a while (and missing last night), and with his no bullshit approach would shake things up for the better......

I'd also prefer Link to take over so White can finish out his 2 years at the Brumbies, but I do see the thinking in having White take over in the interim to fix things for Link to come in 2016.......

Anyways, I would love to have both there...... Link as coach with White as the headmaster.......

 

[Slim 293]

And did White keep his job.. thats what i thought.. (2007 WC winners for all the wrong reasons - p.s.s. Was White merely the puppet of a certain ex-wobblies coach, perhaps) interesting he's also at the brumbies. Coincidental? Think not

Do you honestly believe White didn't stay on as coach because of the way South Africa played?

Ha..........

Do you remember who replaced him?

I'll remind you:

 

[biggsy]

Just watched the game, Wallabies are fucked next month.

 

[Dave Beat]

Far more detailed assessment of the team and coach prior to me.
1. Game went bad off the kick off with Genia's knockon.
2. The Lions dominated in the go foward, and we had no variation to the game plan (coach or players fault??? = coach)
3. At the break our possession was up but behind on the scoreboard, because our kicking was aimless, and pointless.
4. JOC (James O'Connor), feel sorry for the guy he has the skills to be one of the first picked, but he would be 4 choice # 10.
5. Having a 4th choice 10 starting impacts the outside backs and their variation purely through experience to change a game plan as required - THAT SIMPLE.
6. The coach, he was not on the field, but but but - his game plan was shit, and it was he that picked JOC (James O'Connor) at 10.
7. First 2 tests our scrum competed, last night from row 60000 in the bleaches it was either destroyed or poorly interpreted and governed by the ref.
8. George Smith, one player doesn't win or loose a game - his impact was definitely noticeable from the bleaches. He shut down a number of their plays and channels with his defensive angles - you wouldn't have seen it on the box, Ariel view point only. His reading of the game was also noticeable from up high, on 3 occasions JOC (James O'Connor) was out of position but George was there.
9. Genia - it can happen, every one can have a bad game.

IMO we lost due to lack of experience in certain positions and game plan.
MOM
Mowen and Moore splitting hairs.
Smith
Mogg

 

[Slim 293]

Last night, particularly with Genia having a shocker, it might've been useful to have a halfback with a good kicking game.........

 

[Brumby Runner]

One final point regarding kicking, any doubts that anybody had regarding Folau's kicking abilities should now be put to bed. The one clearing kick he put in made the Lions 10 Metre line from 5 metres inside his own 22. It cleared the line with distance to spare and prevented any quick lineout (not that the Lions were likely to opt for it future opponents in the ABs and Boks are likely to use this option). If we consider what I have posted as the core skills required for a 15 then in this Wallabies squad only Folau and Mogg have displayed those attributes this year, year neither were selected in that position to start.

I've been saying all along that Izzy can kick - it's just that his first, second and third impulse is to run it back, and that is how it should be done. His attitude towards running the ball distinguishes him from the other pretenders we have seen for so long at 15.