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Federal Coalition Government 2013-?

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boyo

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
Governments have a nasty habit of undervaluing assets that they wish to sell.

Where is the budget emergency - down the back of the lounge?

The so-called "budget emergency" was a scare-tactic used to fool voters.
 
Bowside

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Peter Johnson (47)
fatprop said:
It depends on your philosophy as to what a government is for.

Lazy surplus economics is far preferable to lazy deficit spending

I for one don't think it adds value to the economy for the government to run a private health insurance provider (and many other areas that aren't what you could really consider "core")

I would actually prefer the radical approach of seeing a government driven by being pro market (not pro individual businesses) and if individual businesses fall; or are stopped from taking monopoly or oligopoly positions so be it.
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There is another function of SOE's and that is to keep market competitors honest.

Hypothetically, the government could use it's direct influence in the market to ask lower premiums than competing firms in order to reign in what it deems to be exuberant profit or excessive cost to consumers.

The market price is driven by both consumer and shareholder demands. Government intervention could prove beneficial in this sense.
 
fatprop

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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BPC said:
Possibly there is a qualitative difference between a health insurer and a fish and chip shop or supermarket?
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dunno, the oligopoly of the supermarkets is by far a bigger issue than private health insurance
 
fatprop

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Bowside said:
There is another function of SOE's and that is to keep market competitors honest.

Hypothetically, the government could use it's direct influence in the market to ask lower premiums than competing firms in order to reign in what it deems to be exuberant profit or excessive cost to consumers.

The market price is driven by both consumer and shareholder demands. Government intervention could prove beneficial in this sense.
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I honestly can't think of a government run business that is ever innovative or cheap (unless for political reason it is being subsidised)

It isn't like Medicare Private is the cheapest (driving costs down) or driving innovation so while in theory you may have a point, reality suggests otherwise.

And the government "manages" by regulating important markets like private health insurance
 
Ruggo

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
fatprop said:
It depends on your philosophy as to what a government is for.

Lazy surplus economics is far preferable to lazy deficit spending

I for one don't think it adds value to the economy for the government to run a private health insurance provider (and many other areas that aren't what you could really consider "core")

I would actually prefer the radical approach of seeing a government driven by being pro market (not pro individual businesses) and if individual businesses fall; or are stopped from taking monopoly or oligopoly positions so be it.
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Well as you said yourself, that depends on your philosophy as to what the government is for. Same goes for as whether you would consider health "core".
 
fatprop

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Ruggo said:
Well as you said yourself, that depends on your philosophy as to what the government is for. Same goes for as whether you would consider health "core".
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Oh I consider health core, just not direct government intervention in private health insurance

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Runner

Runner

Nev Cottrell (35)
Interesting to see that we have job loses at BP and Phillip Morris and no comments from the Greens. Hey this is removing that evil carbon producing activities and must be cheered.

Interesting to see Plib cry for BP but can't cry for Phillip Morris workers. They are either workers or no. So now we have "corejobs" perhaps.
 
Ruggo

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Taking fictional licence on what she said Runner. She actually is on the record saying she had mixed feelings over the Phillip Morris issue.

I agree with you regarding the Greens though.
 
Runner

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Nev Cottrell (35)
Ruggo said:
Taking fictional licence on what she said Runner. She actually is on the record saying she had mixed feelings over the Phillip Morris issue.

I agree with you regarding the Greens though.
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Could agree on the her feeling.

However, if their jobs demise is good for our health then perhaps the others (jobs in cars etc) went for our economic health.
 
Runner

Runner

Nev Cottrell (35)
boyo said:
If Arthur Sinodinos has a poor memory he shouldn't be a politician, let alone being a member of the front bench.

Poor memory does not figure for finance whiz

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...inance-whiz-20140403-361ii.html#ixzz2xs17EvYL

"I cant wait to see a caricature of Sinodinos as Shultz saying "i see nothing" "i know nothing" on the front page of the murdock papers."
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True.

Wait till Bill Shorten and half the cabinet get called to the Royal Commission into unions. Will they all stand down and how will their memories be?
 
boyo

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
Isn't the Cabinet Coalition? Maybe they'll have memory loss too.

Shot yourself in the foot there Runner.
 
boyo

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
Japanese cars for $1500 less? Don't bet on it
http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/...IAU000&promote_channel=edmail&mbnr=MTcwMzA3MA

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Sending Abbott to negotiate a FTA with Japan is like sending a three year old to the bank to apply for a million dollar mortgage. Shinzo Abe must have had a hard time keeping a straight face.​
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solomon

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brisbane

Date and time
April 08, 2014, 11:07AM

I'm always dismayed that all govt focus on is selling dirt or meat overseas. We are a country incapable of producing anything of substance... Tech is the only option...
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Bob Timmins

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Your living room

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April 08, 2014, 7:43PM
 
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