Rugby League really gives me the shits

[Lindommer]

Carney lets it all hang out tonight with Dunny Widler, er, that should be Danny Weidler, from Channel 9, league's chief urger. Why, oh why, would a reputable media outlet think airing this would be newsworthy? What, it's at 6:00pm? Bugger, missed it.

"Dunny Widler!" That's good if I may say so myself, sorta covers both of 'em. I'll bet David Gallop's delighted to be recovering from his Brazilian escapade rather than handling this crap. Er, mess. No, pile of piss..... Oh, fer God's sake stop.

 

[ChargerWA]

I personally don't think he should have been sacked, but I know I'm on the unpopular side of the debate that athletes should be role models.

Would a police officer be sacked for that. Nope. If he wants to drink his own piss on his own time, good on him.

What's next, are we going to go into their bedrooms and check that they aren't having freaky sex, just in case some one finds out.

You may say that the difference is that it was caught on film and made public, but I'm betting Carney wasn't responsible for either of those things.

If you walked into a pub toilet and some hobo was doing what Carney was doing, you would piss yourself laughing, tell all of your mates at the bar what you had just seen and move on with your life. Why is it any different for Carney? Besides footballing talent, they really are just ordinary people.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

What is it about this sport that attracts such idiots? No other sporting code in Australia has nearly the same boofhead quotient.

 

[It is what it is]

Yep, nothing wrong with what Carney has done.
Give him back his job, 3 year contract at $680k yr and business as usual.
You're right, how dare we question his behaviour in a public hotel pretending to drink his own urine.
Let him do whatever he likes as long as no one catches it on film and makes it public.
Finally, I look forward to walking into a pub toilet and witnessing this type of thing first hand and rushing to tell my mates while in fits of laughter.

 

[Tangawizi]

Rugby banter is claiming that there is a rumour going round that Greg Inglis is looking to make the move the union very interesting he is a bit old but would make a great 13 IMO.

He's still absolutely dominating though so would be a great pickup. Doubt it'll happen or happen in oz if it does though.

 

[Scoey]

Charger, as well as the usual 'role models' stuff that people talk about, there is also the business side of the argument.
The guy is highly paid and like it or not, he is a walking, talking product of a business.
If you were the primary sponsor of the Sharks, would you be happy for your brand to be displayed across the front of Carney's jersey? I wouldn't.
When stuff like this happens, the players go or sponsors potentially walk. From a business sense, the Sharks would probably deal better with the loss of a bad egg of a player with plenty of prior form that they would with losing a sponsor.
No saying that was the case, just throwing it out there. I would've sacked him too. Wouldn't have even needed thinking music.


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[p.Tah]

Someone at NEWS has a sense of humour:

Carney said he has welcomed the support from his teammates who have been trickling into this Cronulla apartment throughout the day.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...-cronulla-sharks/story-e6frf3uc-1226972727012

 

[It is what it is]

Scoey, this could be the end of Cronulla.
The ASADA findings are yet to be revealed and while without a major sponsor today, the Carney matter will put them further away from securing one.
It seems like the inmates have got the keys to the asylum when you hear today of Gallen and the players asking officials to leave the room so they can have their own meeting.
These same players have not delivered as footballers and now they want to have a say about their coach and in the running of the club.
Time to put a Gerni through the joint.

 

[ChargerWA]

Yep, nothing wrong with what Carney has done.
Give him back his job, 3 year contract at $680k yr and business as usual.
You're right, how dare we question his behaviour in a public hotel pretending to drink his own urine.
Let him do whatever he likes as long as no one catches it on film and makes it public.
Finally, I look forward to walking into a pub toilet and witnessing this type of thing first hand and rushing to tell my mates while in fits of laughter.

I know you were being sarcastic, but it sounds OK to me.

Life's fun, don't take it so seriously or you won't make it out alive.

 

[ChargerWA]

Charger, as well as the usual 'role models' stuff that people talk about, there is also the business side of the argument.
The guy is highly paid and like it or not, he is a walking, talking product of a business.
If you were the primary sponsor of the Sharks, would you be happy for your brand to be displayed across the front of Carney's jersey? I wouldn't.
When stuff like this happens, the players go or sponsors potentially walk. From a business sense, the Sharks would probably deal better with the loss of a bad egg of a player with plenty of prior form that they would with losing a sponsor.
No saying that was the case, just throwing it out there. I would've sacked him too. Wouldn't have even needed thinking music.


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If people are stupid enough to make a causal link between a player being a moron in his own time and the sponsor that is on the jersey for the team he plays for, they should probably be ignored.

The media trots out this argument, but self serving sponsors pull this shit all the time now as it is good advertising.

 

[It is what it is]

I know you were being sarcastic, but it sounds OK to me.

Life's fun, don't take it so seriously or you won't make it out alive.

I can see your point about lightening up but there are good people impacted here. You'll go a long way to meet a more decent man than Cronulla CEO Steve Noyce and this is the 2nd time he's had to sack Carney AND wear flack for doing his job. Noyce didn't get out of control on the juice or break team protocols or impersonate a human bubbler but Carney is now attacking him.
Otherwise, all good.

 

[Sully]

If a police officer did this he'd definitely be sacked.

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[Scoey]

If people are stupid enough to make a causal link between a player being a moron in his own time and the sponsor that is on the jersey for the team he plays for, they should probably be ignored.

The media trots out this argument, but self serving sponsors pull this shit all the time now as it is good advertising.

I can't get on board with that mate. If I was stumping up big cash to sponsor a footy team, I would certainly pull it if the players representing that team carried on like Carney did. But that's my prerogative I guess.
You say that what Carney did was ok because he was on his own time. If he wants to piss in his mouth then I'm fine with that. There are tons of weirder people out there. I mean seriously, if that was something that he does for enjoyment then he should do it at home. It's just not a pass time that aligns with societal values. He didn't do it at home though, he was in a public place. There's his crime.


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[ChargerWA]

I can see your point about lightening up but there are good people impacted here. You'll go a long way to meet a more decent man than Cronulla CEO Steve Noyce and this is the 2nd time he's had to sack Carney AND wear flack for doing his job. Noyce didn't get out of control on the juice or break team protocols or impersonate a human bubbler but Carney is now attacking him.
Otherwise, all good.

I get your point, but that's why Noyce gets paid what he does. To do the tough jobs.

 

[ChargerWA]

If a police officer did this he'd definitely be sacked.

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I just consulted with the resident Police Officer, and she concurs with you.

But I wouldn't, and nor would 95% of professions.

Is what he did truly that damaging?

 

[It is what it is]

I get your point, but that's why Noyce gets paid what he does. To do the tough jobs.

No, he's not paid to be insulted and attacked publicly by a disgruntled former employee.

 

[Rob42]

I just consulted with the resident Police Officer, and she concurs with you.

But I wouldn't, and nor would 95% of professions.

Is what he did truly that damaging?

I don't think footy players should be role models. But regardless, kids will have their athlete heroes. Would you want your young son saying "I wanna play like Todd Carney!" after this? Perhaps you might, but plenty would not. And that means less money for Cronulla, a team already essentially bankrupt. I don't think he's a criminal, or deserves anyone's hatred after this. He just clearly doesn't understand how he needs to behave in the position he's in. If he just wants to be an ordinary bloke who plays footy really well, he can go back to playing in Queensland like he did a few years ago. Even better if he can find the support to get off the booze.

 

[It is what it is]

I just consulted with the resident Police Officer, and she concurs with you.

But I wouldn't, and nor would 95% of professions.

Is what he did truly that damaging?

If the profession and the individual had a public profile to any degree, there would be a good chance of a sacking or at the very least, warm encouragement to resign.

 

[It is what it is]

I don't think footy players should be role models. But regardless, kids will have their athlete heroes. Would you want your young son saying "I wanna play like Todd Carney!" after this? Perhaps you might, but plenty would not. And that means less money for Cronulla, a team already essentially bankrupt. I don't think he's a criminal, or deserves anyone's hatred after this. He just clearly doesn't understand how he needs to behave in the position he's in. If he just wants to be an ordinary bloke who plays footy really well, he can go back to playing in Queensland like he did a few years ago. Even better if he can find the support to get off the booze.

Rob42 this is the issue. We've been hoodwinked into thinking that Carney is just an ordinary guy. His time up in Queensland included regular binge drinking and fights but it's been pushed under the carpet, just like his recent indiscretions at Cronulla before bubblergate didn't go public.
I do not hate Carney but I'm frustrated at such a talented sportsman blowing off his talent and letting down those who've supported him. We need to acknowledge that many well intentioned and capable people have tried to help, mentor and guide him over the years and through a myriad of issues.
Todd needs to recognise the problem is in the mirror not elsewhere, and as you say, getting off the booze.

 

[Pfitzy]

Go wiki him. Look at what he's done in the last eight years, that would get most of us on serious trouble. Yeah he cops the media spotlight like none of us would, but what do you think your chances of getting work would be with that kind if criminal history?

Yet he has been picked back up by two clubs, and betrayed three