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Trevor Allan (34)
I can't wait 5 years @NIS
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I can't wait 5 years @NIS
Azzuri
Trevor Allan (34)
Nope Loiterer. I only go to Shore's grounds under sufferance now and only because of the pies.
The " atmoshpere" doesn't suit me as it's a little too Anglo for my tastes. I also find the requirement to "frock up" and insert a broom handle before walking through the gates, distasteful. And besides, colts is 18 rounds plus finals if they're lucky whereas there are only 5 Shore home games. I prefer to buy from the source and avoid the muffled sobs of Shore Rugby supporters.
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Bob Loudon (25)
IS, while its disappointing to see Crichton, Watson, Milne, Moeroa etc running around in league when all had the potential to have a "pathway" in rugby you can hardly blame their decision. While I don't profess to know what opportunities rugby presented post school for each boy the lure of a professional sporting career I'm sure for all boys would be too good to refuse, so hardly could amount to bad advice. The inadequacies of the pathways in rugby and failure of the governing bodies to provide avenues for young players looking to pursue a professional career has been well debated on these forums. So the "Folau argument" of Cape Town over Campbeltown is not a legitimate decision except for the chosen few. While we are all aware that the majority of so called schoolboy rock stars will never see the lights of a super field as a professional athlete for those few who have those opportunities presented they would no doubt grab them with open arms. And while its easy as people who watch from the hill to say "it's never about the money" for those whom it can be a profession (one which my limited ability never allowed me to contemplate) then it is about not only the money but the opportunity for that professional sporting lifestyle most would only dream about. Do I wish they would have stayed in rugby and used their obvious talents there? Sure. Do I hope they will come back and jump the divide that seems much easier now days between league and union? Definitely. In the meantime well done to them, I hope as we work to improve our pathways and offerings as a sport we see less players choose league.
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David Wilson (68)
IS, you are implying that Shore has a preference for Anglos and that is simply wrong. If a parent is willing to spend lots of money on private school fees, with a little notice they can send their boys to New, Kings, Scots or Joeys so those schools are changing faster. (If the kids are really good at rugby they can enter New or Scots even mid year- oooops did I say that). It is much harder to get kids into Shore and Riverview so change is occurring slower at these schools. No exaggeration, if a parent doesn't enrol their child on the day they are born, they have little hope of getting into Shore or Riverview. Most parents who aren't close to these schools don't know this so change happens slower. Even then, Riverview hopefuls may still not get in because they have to prove substantial Catholic upbringing. Ticking a 'Christian' box suffices for the Shore application so the Church of England thing is not a hurdle. Joeys also want Catholics only but they are less strict.
Shores academic results for a non selective school are amazing (it's daylight to next place among the non selective GPS schools) and it's partly because of a reasonably large proportion of Asian students-who generally don't sit in the stands watching rugby.
Riverview's 'selection committee' and only allowing entry for Catholics is far more antiquated and wrong.
Shore's pie selection criteria is also superior and I will be enjoying the benefits this Sat watching Shore and New go at it. This year's GPS comp is fantastic.
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Although it seems that 3 members of Riverview's 1st XV are in either their 1st or 2nd year at the school. So maybe things aren't as strict as you think.
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Vay Wilson (31)
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Vay Wilson (31)
Although it seems that 3 members of Riverview's 1st XV are in either their 1st or 2nd year at the school. So maybe things aren't as strict as you think.
And one, I assume came from an Anglican school and would have trouble ticking the Holy Roman Catholic Church Box
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Trevor Allan (34)
Sadly for you NIS it won't be this year either!
Ha, that doesnt surprise me and would really piss off parents who can't get in.Although it seems that 3 members of Riverview's 1st XV are in either their 1st or 2nd year at the school. So maybe things aren't as strict as you think.
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Vay Wilson (31)
Although it seems that 3 members of Riverview's 1st XV are in either their 1st or 2nd year at the school. So maybe things aren't as strict as you think.
9, 10 and who is the other one?
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
No I'm not. You wrongly inferred thats what I was implying.
I think its quaint that the school appeals to the same people it did in the 70s.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
I'm not sure where you think the mungo pathway leads.
Todd Greenberg addresses every toyota cup team every year and warns them that only 3 from each team will ever play in the NRL and we all know the average life span in the NRL is less than 1 season. So on average you'll have 3 who make the NRL one very briefly, one for a season and one for 2.
Thats not really a pathway its a chicane: so the idea of a mungo pathway is yet another myth.
In union you have to face reality sooner and that's generally better.
No they don't. The headmaster of a decade ago told me about 10% of the students weren't Catholic, a few Old Boys around me at the time nearly choked into their drinks.
It's pertinent to point out here there was both a non-Catholic and an aboriginal boy in the original intake of 55 students way back in 1881.
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Vay Wilson (31)
Hows Kings recent form again?
Azzuri
Trevor Allan (34)
...not too bad....(Thanks for asking!!)
shall we compare for and against, position on the table or wins and losses. Go ahead, pick one!..... And here is some background music while you consider your answer....
Yes, you can get kids into joeys (Scots, new and Kings) regardless of religion if you want to pay the fees.
2/55 in 1881?? ~4% to 10% in ~125 years - awesome progress
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Bob Loudon (25)
It seems obvious, for those mentioned and I guess in particular Crichton whom the post originally focussed on, the "pathway" in League has thus far lead him to the NRL. So despite Todd Greenberg's words, he is, like the others mentioned one of the three. I think your assumption that all 3 who ascend from the NYC to the NRL are done after, either a brief forte, 1 year or 2 years might be exaggerated for this debate. Moeroa at only 20 is two and half years into his journey with no sighs of it ending soon. Frizzell, another Oz Schoolboy in rugby is now 6 years in and still going well. So where it takes them, who knows, will he be the one who has less than a season, time will tell. Although as mentioned to say it is bad advice when he has reached that level at this point seems highly debatable. Should he have taken the "reality" of rugby and moved on with life? Or take the opportunity at his age to be one of 2 or 3 to have the chance at a professional career? Seems an easy decision for a young aspiring athlete and I know which I would have taken. Nothing ventured nothing gained. So be it "pathway" or "chicane" he seems to have navigated it and is now one of the elite few. His reality looks promising and seemingly still has a way to run.
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Vay Wilson (31)
Your Honor, Can you please direct the defendant to answer the question and not waffle about irrelevant details.
Azzuri
Trevor Allan (34)
Sit back down in the witness box Mr NIS. You are not in a position to cross examine Counsel Azzuri.
You've been asked three very pertinent questions by Counsel. The Court has noted your reticence in replying and will accept your silence as tacit acceptance that you have no factual basis upon which to bring a claim to another 2 points in the GPS Premiership. This is not America Mr NIS, the 5th Amendment does not apply here.
The facts of this matter are indisputable Mr NIS and your attempt to divert the courts attention through your histrionics and thinly disguised cellar dweller jealousy has not endeared you to this court nor helped your case.
As a result of the above I find for Mr Azzuri and I order you to attend the JS White oval on Saturday week where the folly of your comments will be evidenced by the the beads of sweat on the score board attendants foreheads as they try to keep up with the Kings points harvest.
Joker
Greg Davis (50)
St Josephs College has a policy to accept children based upon many factors. There is a system in place where you have categories for entry. The highest is Level 1. (siblings at school, /grandfather father an old boy, Catholic, Active Parish participation, all sacraments up to date, Catholic primary School K-6, reference from Parish Priest)
The College then takes in levels below depending on what of the above elements are missing. They select 175 kids to interview from over 200 applications
The toughest part is the interview. An old Brother is usually asking questions directly of the student and NOT the parents. It is not questions you would expect. he challenges the boys to look into their hearts and reflect upon what they will contribute to Joeys that is NOT rugby.
My sons went through this process. Another boy I know well was recently accepted into Joeys for 2017. What is his level? 10
NO link to the school, NO old boy connection, Muslim, non participation, NO sacraments, State school, no reference. The College interviewed him and he was accepted. Why? As a Marist brother once told me, "Having just Vanilla ice-cream only is plain boring and adds nothing new. You need to add many other flavours to make it interesting and worthwhile." This boy will do well, as Joeys knows, that tolerance and acceptance of the world starts in your own home.
The College then takes in levels below depending on what of the above elements are missing. They select 175 kids to interview from over 200 applications
The toughest part is the interview. An old Brother is usually asking questions directly of the student and NOT the parents. It is not questions you would expect. he challenges the boys to look into their hearts and reflect upon what they will contribute to Joeys that is NOT rugby.
My sons went through this process. Another boy I know well was recently accepted into Joeys for 2017. What is his level? 10
NO link to the school, NO old boy connection, Muslim, non participation, NO sacraments, State school, no reference. The College interviewed him and he was accepted. Why? As a Marist brother once told me, "Having just Vanilla ice-cream only is plain boring and adds nothing new. You need to add many other flavours to make it interesting and worthwhile." This boy will do well, as Joeys knows, that tolerance and acceptance of the world starts in your own home.
Well put, Joker. My young bloke qualified at about -5, substantially better than his non-Catholic cousins. They, however, had a grandfather Old Boy who couldn't stop rabbitting on about the place, so that's where they finished their secondary schooling.
One criteria you missed was the predilection for country boys. Long may it continue.
One criteria you missed was the predilection for country boys. Long may it continue.
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