Wallaby Coaching Staff

[Dalai Ninja]

I generally don't have much time for Spiro's rants and this one is pretty much the same, excepting what I am beginning to think. Larkham may well take command is the Wallabies fail again on the EOYT.

The chances of Cheika being sacked are zero, unless he accidentally shags his in-house aromatherapist and gets found out in a major Snapchat scandal.

 

[amirite]

The chances of Cheika being sacked are zero, unless he shags his in-house aromatherapist and gets found out in a major Snapchat scandal.

I think it's often a Chicken before the Egg scenario when after a while of journalists quoting job insecurity, the insecurity becomes real.

 

[Strewthcobber]

I just briefly read it.
Did Larkham really say his ambition is to be head coach at the next RWC?
So there will be friction in the coaches box !

No he didn't say that

 

[Hugh Jarse]

The only time a Coach has to worry about job security is when it is announced that they have the full support of the Board and that there is no plans to move said Coach on before the end of their current contract.

When they say that, be afraid, very afraid.

 

[Gnostic]

Spiro is a terrible journalist, in the vein of Greg Growden. Pretty much all the specialist rugby journos specialise in ripping our game a new one in every which way in their columns, and then on the side they write these passionate books about how much they love the game. Strange. At least Georgia Robinson just roles out paint-by-numbers 'news of the day' stories.



On a side note - I'm surprised people feel like they can write Larkham off. The Brumbies have been largely successful in his time there, with the exception of 2016 when they were completely capitulating behind the scenes. Easily explained away.



The Wallaby back line was also excellent last year. This year they had a bit of a rebuild, so that can also be explained away.



Now, I'm far from saying give this man the key to the Wallabies, but I won't write him off either.



I also think Nathan Grey is an excellent coach, beloved by the playing group, but I've had more to do with him.

Amirite - the data suggests the longer Larkham is coaching a side the worse the attack becomes. That's a pretty big call considering the Brumbies upside attack stats come when the side was playing the Jake White brand of Rugby. Since then it has been a constant downward trajectory. As I said being named Australian coach of the year when the competition was a first year Daryl Gibson left with a unbalanced and disjointed Tahs side by Cheika, McGann who has not produced much beside inconsistency at the Rebels and two other coaches who managed to be sacked. Yes he was up against stiff opposition, and his side did not deserve to be in the finals, none of the Australian sides did.

 

[I like to watch]

No he didn't say that

That's my bad.
I just re read the article and it does say after RWC.

Which is a pipe dream.
The ARU has a history of reappointed poorly performed coaches just before big tournaments.

So it's Cheika's until he's had enough, or Zimbabwe regularly beat us,

 

[Mr Wobbly]

Rugby Heaven headline:
"Stephen Larkham says he has aspirations to be Wallabies head coach one day"


The quote from Larkham:

"I think everyone wants to aspire to be the best in their position and the head coach of the Wallabies is certainly the top goal in Australia," Larkham said. "That's a long way down the track. I haven't really thought about it too much but I think as a coach I certainly have aspirations to get to the top."

Sounds reasonable to me.

Would you want a bloke that didn't have aspirations "a long way down the track"?

 

[Gnostic]

Rugby Heaven headline:

"Stephen Larkham says he has aspirations to be Wallabies head coach one day"





The quote from Larkham:



"I think everyone wants to aspire to be the best in their position and the head coach of the Wallabies is certainly the top goal in Australia," Larkham said. "That's a long way down the track. I haven't really thought about it too much but I think as a coach I certainly have aspirations to get to the top."



Sounds reasonable to me.



Would you want a bloke that didn't have aspirations "a long way down the track"?

I might be a bit strange but I actually like people to do the job they are in, and master it before they start looking and dreaming about their next promotion.

 

[Mr Wobbly]

I might be a bit strange but I actually like people to do the job they are in, and master it before they start looking and dreaming about their next promotion.

I wouldn't say I'm any kind of a fan of Larkham's (as a coach) but, click bait headline aside, he sounds quite reasonable in that article. He even admits he has a lot of improving to do in his current job as attack coach.

 

[Slim 293]

Amirite - the data suggests the longer Larkham is coaching a side the worse the attack becomes. That's a pretty big call considering the Brumbies upside attack stats come when the side was playing the Jake White brand of Rugby.

When Larkham was soley the attack coach?

As for that first statement - I don't seek to defend Larkham's record as a coach, but "the data" also suggests he's only ever been head coach of the one team, for three years.

That's not exactly a big data pool.............

 

[Dalai Ninja]

I think it's often a Chicken before the Egg scenario when after a while of journalists quoting job insecurity, the insecurity becomes real.

Damn right, which is the real danger of parasitic journalism. It damages its host.

 

[Dalai Ninja]

I might be a bit strange but I actually like people to do the job they are in, and master it before they start looking and dreaming about their next promotion.

To be fair, that's what Larkham's doing, at least as far as that quote goes. "That's a long way down the track. I haven't really thought about it too much but I think as a coach I certainly have aspirations to get to the top." is about as demure a statement of personal ambition as you could reasonably expect in response to a loaded question, which was purely intended to generate that headline.

Standard Rugby Heaven bait-and-switch.

 

[Gnostic]

When Larkham was soley the attack coach?



As for that first statement - I don't seek to defend Larkham's record as a coach, but "the data" also suggests he's only ever been head coach of the one team, for three years.



That's not exactly a big data pool.....

Not its not a big pool, that's surely the point, when that pool is filled with pretty poor product and when has three years (two of which he has spent being a Wallabies assistant) been enough to get one appointed as the Heir apparent? FFS makes the Reds board appointment of Richard Graham a fair and reasonable one.

 

[Gnostic]

To be fair, that's what Larkham's doing, at least as far as that quote goes. "That's a long way down the track. I haven't really thought about it too much but I think as a coach I certainly have aspirations to get to the top." is about as demure a statement of personal ambition as you could reasonably expect in response to a loaded question, which was purely intended to generate that headline.



Standard Rugby Heaven bait-and-switch.

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. When I employ somebody I want their aspirations to be firmly fixed in the present, to do their job as it is now. If they have success in that position, then they can start thinking about that next move up. If they are even aspiring to be upwardly mobile before doing anything in their current position I have found time and again they under-perform in the task they have been employed to execute. This is across a number of fields.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. When I employ somebody I want their aspirations to be firmly fixed in the present, to do their job as it is now. If they have success in that position, then they can start thinking about that next move up. If they are even aspiring to be upwardly mobile before doing anything in their current position I have found time and again they under-perform in the task they have been employed to execute. This is across a number of fields.

I'm guessing you don't ask the "where do you see yourself in 5 yesrs" question at interviews......

 

[cyclopath]

I'm guessing you don't ask the "where do you see yourself in 5 yesrs" question at interviews..

"in a mirror"?

 

[Tomikin]

I just briefly read it.
Did Larkham really say his ambition is to be head coach at the next RWC?
So there will be friction in the coaches box !

I remember reading when he was backs coach for the Brumbies, he went to the board requesting they instruct the head coach not to talk to the backs,as they might get mixed messages..

If he could get a gig with the AB's we could be world champs

No he said that he ever coach wants to coach at the top level. And he would like to cosch the wallabies, but thats a long way down the track.. Whats he suppose to say.. narr assistant is all I ever want screw running the team

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[dru]

For Christ's sake, we are turning a G&GR thread on a Roar article? FFS not just a Roar article but a Spiro rant?

Get a grip guys.

 

[Dalai Ninja]

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. When I employ somebody I want their aspirations to be firmly fixed in the present, to do their job as it is now. If they have success in that position, then they can start thinking about that next move up. If they are even aspiring to be upwardly mobile before doing anything in their current position I have found time and again they under-perform in the task they have been employed to execute. This is across a number of fields.

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. There's no evidence that Larkham's aspirations aren't firmly fixed in the present. I'd hope that when you employ someone your perception of their aspirations has some basis in reality.

 

[amirite]

Amirite - the data suggests the longer Larkham is coaching a side the worse the attack becomes.

As an intellegent man you'd know that data is questionable because it's affected by so many different factors. Plus, having coached only 2 teams, it's not of an adequate sample size.

As sport because more and more obsessed with data (for good reason), we have to realise there's a reason the scientific community requires certain things to consider data 'valid'.